Immaculate Deception

[A51Watcher]

John was not sighed in on FB. How do I know? I called him and spoke with him! He said he hadn't been on in months. Someone, with his credentials signed in for him! He begged Ron and I to help him with it! But none of this friggin' matters. Corbell is an opportunist who found the golden egg! End of story!

None of that addresses the questions I asked.

Which is why my original question was addressed to Z.

I will just wait for him to respond.

Thanks anyways.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

That's par for the course with you. I answered the questions you asked cause I was there! I should have known it would go this way. I'll go back to keeping my mouth shut, regardless.

[zorgon]

Dan is getting all this from a new video alienscientist made 4 months ago.
He gets this way when he hangs around that guy too much.

LOL that is true One day he is against the guy the next day he is god... I like dan but he does get 'passionate' at times



MY point is that there is a plot afoot.. that includes George, Harry Reid, 4 Names, Tom Delonge and possibly connected with John Podesta  who it seems everyone is ignoring the fact he is a proven pedophile still not in jail

This Pentagon UFO release is crap... there is no way they are releasing real useful info and in the same breath saying  "To expensive, nothing to see here, we shut it down"

Perhaps I am the only one seeing this...

John has no signed contract with Corbell  so would be SOL getting any  money out of this film deal... but on the flip side he or Marilee  could also stop Jeremy with a law suit.

I am personally hoping that Robert Bigelow is a pawn in this, because he is seriously into the UFO stuff... but now that George has given the film rights of Skin Walker and Bob lazar story to Corbell  I see trouble brewing

I will be with John Lenard Walson and John Lear at his house tonight I am going to go over this.  In the end it really is none of my business  BUT last time John asked for help to clear Corbell out of his personal email account and get his hijacked facebook page back

Corbell has us blocked on FB... but I have others that are watching his page

I am sure Bob trusts George...

At the party it was Corbell that initiated the Skype call from Bob Lazar...  (Kerry Cassidy immediately tried to record it and get an interview... that didn't go over to well)

This whole thing smells dirty to me...  I was quite surprised to hear George say he now believes Bob's schooling was a lie

Dan has been on a love/hate relation with Bob a very long time, and has pushed Ed Fouche as the real deal... all the way back from open Minds Forum. That whole mess resulted in OMF being shut down and erases, and I had to threaten the Outpost forum with a lawyer...

In any case I will be watching this closely. I have no power over John other than he listens to me at time. Since he is off the opioids he is a lot sharper and clear headed, so not so easy to fool

Corbell however was lurking with him for 4 years while he was ill and has had access to ALL John's material.  Since he also owns (and won't release) TheRealJohnLear dot com... I can only assume he intends to profit from John in the future

[zorgon]

So Z, is there any chance Corbell was already having a skype chat with John when you guys showed up?
Or was John just as surprised as you guys were?
Has he cursed the guy out to you and suspects him of evildoing?

I have already answered that  I have said that John asked for our help to get his email account and FB account back under his control.  John was very helpless at the time and is not very computer  savy...(though today he is doing better that I can help him on the phone and he gets it)

John's nephew cleared out all Corbell's access to his computer  But frankly I have my own problems and can't be there all the time  Ultimately it is Marilee that will have to take action.

[zorgon]

Ok fine. So if Corbell was signed in as John, who was John signed in as?

John was not able to sign is as anyone because he did not have a working password because Corbell changed it. I set up a NEW account for John and we reported the othe 3 bogus accounts to FB and they were eventually removed.  John had to contact COX to get his email password reset because we could't even open a new FB without the email

Corbell was deleting emails to John... This is how I first found out there was a problem, when John asked me to help him figure out why people called him wondering why he didn't reply

If there was no Skype event going on, how was a conversation possible?

Oh come on now...  Do you already forget what happened with Bill Allred when his account was hijacked and why I refuse to use Skype?  Corbell has access to Johns computer It is easy to set up P2P access if you are on someones computer and have their password...



Well sure.. that is possible... because as i said at the time John was under opioids and wasn't thinking clearly. But what does that matter?  Its still eavesdropping when the other person isn't aware its still open

[zorgon]

I will just wait for him to respond.

Respond I did, yes  hmmm? Answer I did...

There is a great disturbance in the Force...

Before the election  Grant Cameron was pushing  yes PUSHING people to vote Hillary because in his opinion SHE had promised to 'get to the bottom' of the UFO thing...  But the only evidence of that is a joking comment she made on CNN

The driving force was John Podesta... it was his effort that wanted the UFO disclosure...  Now ask yourself this  Podesta is as close to the top of the White House as you could get (at the time) and HE didn't know...  so that supports what I beleieve  our government is NOT high enough on that 'need to know' list including most presidents who are in effect only office temps.

So Grant kept pushing it  (Hillary keep a promise? Oh hell ya THAT will happen )  Everyone tried to tell him but he persisted.  In the end Podesta gets exposed as a pedophile (still at large because no one cares) and Grant's friend say "See we told you so.  Well after that he blocked me

Oh well.

Bill Clinton didn't address the UFO issue untill his SECOND term even though he promised at the start. When he did all he did was send an aide to Area 51 who was told "Nope no aliens here, just secret airplanes" So the aide left and Bill jokes about it in a recent interview

Obama on a visit to Vegas was denied access to Area 51...

With all the Wikileaks showing thousanda
ds of files exposing all the governments dirty laundry, there is NOT ONE UFO related report...  because the government know less than we do.

Think about it for a minute  there are 193 countries in the world... and we are supposed to believe that all 193 governments have manages to work together to keep this secret? Not ONE verifiable alien body or DNA from any one of them, not ONE crashed or intact alien space craft that we can verify

And now Julian Assange has had his internet cut off

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-wikileaks-assange-ecuador-20180328-story.html

So the only possibility is that the governments know NOTHING save for a handful of "Star Chamber" type

[zorgon]

So this current Pentagon thing..

It is our opinion that Harry Reid was given busy work to keep him out of their hair now that he is out of the Senate 

George introduce him to Robert Bigelow...  We are told that:

1) Harry was the one who create the pentagon UFO project yet until now Harry never mentioned UFO's or an interest in them

2) In Harry's interview he says PLAINLY :
"Well, I'm happy to talk to you. Just let me preface this by saying this, if we're here to talk about little green men or stuff that you want to look at that was found in New Mexico or something, I'm not interested. If you're here to talk about science, I'm happy to do that. I'm really glad to do that. I'm glad somebody is interested, because it's a subject that is being terribly neglected, so I'm happy to talk to you."

http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/03/harry-reid-on-what-the-government-knows-about-ufos.html

3) That Bigelow has saucer parts at his house on Eastern Ave  (a few blocks from me)

Now I posted all this in the other thread. I even posted papers I just got from John showing Bob Lazar and Gene Huff as partners in that rumored business Zeta Reticuli 2 Inc that Robert created to reverse engineer a saucer but no one even looked at the pages

Considering this was long rumored you would think having the document as proof would be a big deal... yet NOTHING  On FB the only one who was interested was Issac Koi  (from ATS)  serious UFO researcher from the UK

This whole thing is a set up...  bit by bit the pieces are coming out  and it is obvious to many because YT is making videos on this sham already


There will be no disclosure  and you can bet with harry Reid involved, the guy who was responsible for John losing his mine AND the guy who was behine the Bundy rach fiasco, there will be NOTHING of value from this

It would not surprise me to see this bunch complete destroy Bob and John... I HOPE I am wrong, but what I saw of Corbell's video so far, John is NOT being shown at his best

[zorgon]

Here is that other thread
Zeta Reticuli 2 Robert Bigelow, Bob Lazar and Gene Huff

I sometimes wonder why I bother

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10844.msg142342#msg142342

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I have already answered that  I have said that John asked for our help to get his email account and FB account back under his control.  John was very helpless at the time and is not very computer  savy...(though today he is doing better that I can help him on the phone and he gets it)

John's nephew cleared out all Corbell's access to his computer  But frankly I have my own problems and can't be there all the time  Ultimately it is Marilee that will have to take action.

Don't forget Ron when you and I were leaving John's house, we stopped and told Marilee about the little Man poping up on the screen. Remember her reaction when she found out?

[Pimander]

This whole thing smells dirty to me...  I was quite surprised to hear George say he now believes Bob's schooling was a lie

Really?  Did he say why?

[A51Watcher]

Really?  Did he say why?

He said "Can you imagine a guy like Bob sitting through boring classes?"

"Everybody exaggerates their background to get a job."

Paraphrase of what he said.


So then we are to believe he got hired by Los Alamos in a position as a Physicist with a Top Secret clearance with no degrees provided?

That part of his work history has now been confirmed.

Poor speculation on his part that doesn't fit the employment history.

You don't let the janitor operate your multi million dollar particle accelerator.

[A51Watcher]

John was not able to sign is as anyone because he did not have a working password because Corbell changed it. I set up a NEW account for John and we reported the othe 3 bogus accounts to FB and they were eventually removed.  John had to contact COX to get his email password reset because we could't even open a new FB without the email.

Corbell was deleting emails to John... This is how I first found out there was a problem, when John asked me to help him figure out why people called him wondering why he didn't reply

Oh come on now...  Do you already forget what happened with Bill Allred when his account was hijacked and why I refuse to use Skype?  Corbell has access to Johns computer It is easy to set up P2P access if you are on someones computer and have their password..

That's why I asked for specifics on login status when he spoke up un announced on John's computer after you guys arrived at his place and began having a conversation.

Sounds as if a previous Skype event was never terminated and Corbell was still online listening.

Well sure.. that is possible... because as i said at the time John was under opioids and wasn't thinking clearly. But what does that matter?  Its still eavesdropping when the other person isn't aware its still open

Of course... eavesdropping is inexcusable and a betrayal of trust.

re: P2P access - Both parties must have the same remote access program and permission must be given before access is allowed.

There is however the syskey penetration where you are asked to press <ctrl>+ <F2> to allow P2P control.

All I was asking were the circumstances of the initial intrusion on you guys and what the status of the computer was found to be.

Thanks

[zorgon]

re: P2P access - Both parties must have the same remote access program and permission must be given before access is allowed.

Permission is not required IF you are sitting at john's computer and have full access. That is how i was able to set up a new account on FB for John after we got his email password reset. 

All I was asking were the circumstances of the initial intrusion on you guys and what the status of the computer was found to be.

Understood but you know Sarge    Its that Army in him... but be assured we ARE concerned about this.  I spoke with John tonight... he is going to call George Knapp and see if George gave 4 names (yes John calls him that now too ) PERMISSION to do the Bob Lazar story and the Skin Walker story

You asked for proof many months ago... seems like we are finding some.   I would like to talk to Bob myself I asked John to pass along a message that I have some radioactive minerals for sale so we shall see what happens


So  I hear you and Paulie Schrier were at a Comic Con in Lexington?  How did that pan out?  Have you by any chance heard from Beth (Undo)?  Since that mess I have lost all contact with her... just wondering how she is doing these days

[zorgon]

Now then I am with you I still believe Bob has more credibility than most EVEN IF he was only the controlled leak Without Bob  we might never have heard of Area 51, certainly not on everyones lips... and 90% of UFO conspiracies would not be out there

On the other hand  we have 193 countries in the world with government official.  For UFO secrecy to be a reality, it would require that ALL of these nations are working together secretly.  Yet look at our last election, all the fighting all the BS  all the Wikileaks dirty laundry  and then Podesta asking to get to the bottom of UFO's and yet he is about as high in the White House as it gets.

And all these years since Roswell and all we have is stories and speculations... Where are the Alien DNA results, The crashed saucer parts they speak of at all those UFO symposiums?  Where are the old obsolete models?  Does not ONE small postage stamp country have a small scrap of saucer to show?

Pentagon released UAP, but they don't say "Alien Spaceship"  Harry Reid is now in charge of Disclosure but he won't talk about "Little Green Men" or Roswell related stuff...  he WILL say that there are likely other civilizations out there and lets talk science.

Seems like I wasted the last 40 or so years looking 

And wait a few years when john and all the other old timers are no longer with us... the new comers will distort and twist everything so badly no one will ever find truth, at least until the Invasion Fleet blows up the White House

[zorgon]

Don't forget Ron when you and I were leaving John's house, we stopped and told Marilee about the little Man poping up on the screen. Remember her reaction when she found out?

Yeah that was when she got Damien to wipe the computer