Egyptian Zodiac Mystery

[A51Watcher]

So the Egyptians had a Zodiac wheel and it is said that their knowledge of the 12 signs was learned from the Greeks who learned it from the Babylonians.

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They built upon this knowledge by things such as the 24 hour day, sun dials and water clocks. They also replaced the Greek deities with their own gods.

They obviously were pretty well versed in Astrology and Astronomy.


Here comes the mystery -

When Napoleon decided to visit Egypt, he brought along many trade professionals including draftsmen who etched plates of what they saw. 40 volumes worth actually.

Later photos of what they drew confirmed the accuracy of their plates. All 40 volumes can be viewed online.

The curious part is plate 6 in volume II -


https://www.edition-originale.com/en/prints-engravings-photographs/description-de-legypte-1809/-description-de-legypte-thebes-1809-26091

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So what are the 2 planets in the same orbit above his head?

Before you say the Sun and Moon, remember the Sun God Aten is always displayed in heiroglyphs with rays emanating.





 


So I tried locating any pictures of this hieroglyph with no luck, in hopes of seeing more of the top part to see what else is on that orbit.

DESCRIPTION DE L'EGYPTE. Thèbes

Translation of the page says :
DESCRIPTION OF EGYPT. Thebes. Bybân el Molouk. Carved and painted bas-reliefs in the fifth and fourth tombs of the kings to the west, bas-reliefs of the fifth tomb to the east. (ANTIQUITES, volume II, plate 84)

Imperial Printing, Paris 1809-1829, 71x53,5cm, a sheet.

Original etching in plano, untrimmed, extracted from the edition called "Imperial" of the Description of Egypt or Collection of the observations and researches made in Egypt during the French expedition, published by the orders of His Majesty the Emperor Napoleon the Great .
Made between February 1802 and 1829 by order of Napoleon Bonaparte and published from 1809 [actually 1810], it was printed 1000 copies on Vergé watermarked "ancient and modern Egypt " and offered to institutions.


So since these guys were up on their Astrology and Astronomy, what could those 2 planets represent, and are there any more depicted above?

[space otter]

my first reaction is binary suns

but 51, what photo are you referring to exactly..cause i'm not sure

[A51Watcher]

my first reaction is binary suns

but 51, what photo are you referring to exactly..cause i'm not sure

I just fixed the photo explanation above.

[ArMaP]

I just fixed the photo explanation above.

I still don't understand which one are we supposed to look at.

Anyway, here's a much better version of that image.

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[The Seeker]

I still don't understand which one are we supposed to look at.

Anyway, here's a much better version of that image.

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I would say it is the one standing in the bottom middle photo, of the dude with the erection, appears to be 2 planetary orbs depicted in the sky on either side of him

[ArMaP]

I would say it is the one standing in the bottom middle photo, of the dude with the erection, appears to be 2 planetary orbs depicted in the sky on either side of him

I suppose that's the one, but I like to be sure.

[space otter]

51  can you say where that came from  or anything else about it?
they did have a god named min who was depicted with an erection
obviously a fertility god
but i don't think that is who this is..just guessing, mind you

but it looks like he is between the moon and the sun
and if the three stars were in a line i would say orion's belt
but as a triangle.. i don't know

what can you tell us

[Irene]

Very interesting, but I, too, am clueless. Since I was a kid I've wished I could read hieroglyphics.
That little dude looks like he's hanging from the guy's penis. There's a very subtle line, but it could be just a continuation of the line on the right.
Doesn't it look like the little guys on the left and the right are catching spheres from the stars?
Looks to me like those "two" objects might be just one on an orbital path.
Sorry about the spacing. Something's whacked, but I can't fix it.

[A51Watcher]

Sky,

If you search DESCRIPTION DE L'EGYPTE. Thèbes

You get a page in French.

Click on translate and you get -

DESCRIPTION OF EGYPT. Thebes. Bybân el Molouk. Carved and painted bas-reliefs in the fifth and fourth tombs of the kings to the west, bas-reliefs of the fifth tomb to the east. (ANTIQUITES, volume II, plate 84)

Imperial Printing, Paris 1809-1829, 71x53,5cm, a sheet.

Original etching in plano, untrimmed, extracted from the edition called "Imperial" of the Description of Egypt or Collection of the observations and researches made in Egypt during the French expedition, published by the orders of His Majesty the Emperor Napoleon the Great .
Made between February 1802 and 1829 by order of Napoleon Bonaparte and published from 1809 [actually 1810], it was printed 1000 copies on Vergé watermarked "ancient and modern Egypt " and offered to institutions.

That's all I can find.

Doing a google image search of hieroglyphs penis or erection brings up several guys like this but none with planets in orbit like this guy.

The orbit on this one appears to continue up over his head but maybe not since the artists did not include it. 

[A51Watcher]

Irene,

Yep the little guys do seem to be catching orbs.

I am just surprised there are no actual photos of this glyph to study and see theories by others.

Yes could be one planet in 2 different positions of orbit.

Without further info hard to tell much of anything.

[Irene]

Okay, this is out there and pure speculation.

The orbiting object passes by stars, which then shoot eggs to the little dudes. The little dudes shoot the eggs at "Penis Man" who fertilizes them and makes little people.

Okay, flame me. 

[Irene]

Irene,

Yep the little guys do seem to be catching orbs.

I am just surprised there are no actual photos of this glyph to study and see theories by others.

Yes could be one planet in 2 different positions of orbit.

Without further info hard to tell much of anything.

Well, remember, a lot of historical material has been outright destroyed. The remainder is probably in the basement of the f'ing useless twat Vatican.

[Irene]

A51,
You don't like my theory?

[A51Watcher]

A51,
You don't like my theory?

Sure. I like all theories cause they get me thinking.

Yours got me thinking the little guys on the right might be catching meteorites from the stars. The Egyptians highly valued them.

But the little guys on the left seem to be catching from the orbit, not stars.

Frustratingly there is no car touche or any text indicating who the main guy is. 

[A51Watcher]

Armap - Thanks for the better resolution!