Velikovsky was right! Worlds In Collision vindicated!

Started by A51Watcher, July 10, 2018, 03:31:54 AM

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fansongecho


@Spaceotter, the guy talking in the YT link I posted calls it that around 14 mins and 50's into the interview -

zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 15, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
So the REAL War of the Worlds?..... 8)

Effectively ... yes..  All our bits and pieces of religious texts and mythology point to that event, though the details are scattered and twisted.

One factor... Our moon and several others in the system show heavy cratering on ONE side.. Why is this? Well the war theory accounts for that.   After the planet tore apart... and before the remaining debris settled into the present asteroid belt, as the moons etc orbited around the sun, they would pass through the debris field perhaps several times.  But like sweeping your hand through sand... only the side facing the debris would get plastered  while the back side would not (certainly not as much anyway)

There was a documentary I saw on TV years ago  Will see if I can find it... It had the action pretty well down correctly... including the moon being ripped out of the pacific... but for some odd reason they had the rogue planet suddenly reverse and come back for a second pass   rather than catch it in the next orbit cycle, with no explanation of why it suddenly turned around  Other that that it was a good film

zorgon

Quote from: space otter on July 15, 2018, 03:48:54 PM
you get the idea...lots of opinion and regurgitated stories  to sift thur

Unfortunately... that is the problem with the internet today. You get one piece of info  or one name... and a thousand people take it and add to it or give their own interpretation of it.

Unfortunately Mike Salla has also jumped on this one. He destroyed any credibility in Secret Space program research and he will do the same to Maldek.  That is why I picked GOR  LOL  No one is using that right now.

As I said though  in the EARLY works there are many references to the same story  Details may vary, but the basic facts of a planetary war with one planet being destroyed pretty much survive all versions.

I have found it frustrating, especially at a p-lace like Facebook, to present ANY idea or facts...  For every one person that likes what you post, there will be 50 to nay say it, call you names or say "No your wrong  THIS is the way it happened" even though yesterday they never heard of the idea LOL

So All I can do is keep on collecting my material and presenting it as I do...  maybe someone will get some value :D

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on July 16, 2018, 06:47:13 AM
One factor... Our moon and several others in the system show heavy cratering on ONE side..
"Several others" is too vague, can you point some names?

A51Watcher


At 11:32 NASA's own New Horizons mission video states -

"Next out, the Asteroid Belt, fragments of Worlds smashed to pieces by gravitation, and collisions."






Next up, anyone notice anything odd about the dispersion of asteroids in their respective belts?






fansongecho

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Yes A51, indeed, Van Flandern posited that there where two planets that exploded buddy - Planet V and Body C and Planet K , you may have well seen the below YT's ? worth a watch / look if not tho m8  :)

EDIT" - If you fast fwd to around 40 mins on the first YT Video below, it is where the presentation starts getting on topic -





https://www.earthchangesmedia.com/dr-tom-van-flanderns-exploded-planet-hypothesis-strikes-gold

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2016/09/the-exploded-planet-hypothesis-the-destruction-of-tiamat-electra-maldek-and-the-creation-of-the-asteroid-be/

Fans'  :)

A51Watcher

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Quote from: A51Watcher on July 18, 2018, 05:29:54 AM

Next up, anyone notice anything odd about the dispersion of asteroids in their respective belts?



No? Well I think the above image demonstrates an amazing hitherto unknown law of orbital mechanics.

Well, unknown to me at least.

The Trojan asteroids seems to be stuck in flypaper!


Not gradually moving around populating the entire path of its orbit as the asteroid belt appears to have done. So it would be safe to assume that the asteroids in the asteroid belt are also stuck in flypaper.

This would mean that whatever catastrophe befell the original body(s) in that orbital path was very large and widespread.

When considering all this, the phrase worlds in collision is coming to mind more and more often, just as Nasa's own video above says.

And as we have agreed in this discussion, that Velikovsky's idea's and theories have not been disproven, the vilification of his reputation in past decades was indeed unwarranted.

And so his reputation has been vindicated... and until proven otherwise his theories are as good or better than anyone else's.

re: the Trojan asteroids -

"Their origin probably dates back to the formation of Jupiter: the Trojan precursors were planetesimals orbiting close to the growing planet.

Different mechanisms, including the mass growth of Jupiter, collisional diffusion, and gas drag friction, contributed to the capture of planetesimals in stable Trojan orbits before the final dispersal.

The subsequent evolution of Trojan asteroids is the outcome of the joint action of different physical processes involving dynamical diffusion and excitation and collisional evolution.

As a result, the present population is possibly different in both orbital and size distribution from the primordial one.

No other significant population of Trojan asteroids have been found so far around other planets, apart from six Trojans of Mars, whose origin and evolution are probably very different from the Trojans of Jupiter."


Again, the evidence that Mars took a substantial beating in the early days appears to be mounting with actual probe evidence along with our ancient historical evidence considered to be mythological.

The Thunderbolts Project theories, backed by new evidence is also now gaining favor by those with minds open to new evidence.