Buzz Aldrin says we didn't go to the moon

[spacemaverick]

I found this interesting but I wonder if his state of mind is lacking because of a possible malady?

[Canine]

I think he just misspoke and if he wanted us to know we didn't go he would have been more clear.

He'd be like "We didn't go. We ain't going back because we were never there" as opposed to what he said in the video, which was ambiguous.

I'm glad he's still with us.

[ArMaP]

I think his answer was badly structured, he says "we didn't do it" but then talks about "keep doing something" and "we need to know why something stopped in the past", both giving the idea that they did go to the Moon.

Watching the whole video shows that all his answers suffer from that bad structuring, he starts by saying something and then it sounds like he's talking about something else.

[spacemaverick]

I think his answer was badly structured, he says "we didn't do it" but then talks about "keep doing something" and "we need to know why something stopped in the past", both giving the idea that they did go to the Moon.

Watching the whole video shows that all his answers suffer from that bad structuring, he starts by saying something and then it sounds like he's talking about something else.

You could be right.  It sure had me confused.

[petrus4]

I found this interesting but I wonder if his state of mind is lacking because of a possible malady?

I don't think it's severe, but to me his responses do imply minor senility.  The pace of the speech, and the halting between words at times. 

I should make clear that this in no way diminishes his value as an individual, however.  Age is a tragedy, and it occurs to all of us.  The greatness of some, such as him, magnify said tragic element when it occurs.  I remember a friend telling me that when Bob Kane, the creator of Batman died, despite the fact that it was of natural causes, some still regarded him as a martyr.  Some people contribute sufficiently in their lives, that whenever they go, it can be difficult for the rest of us to understand how we will continue without them.

[zorgon]

Buzz Aldrin's ex-manager claims she was defamed in family lawsuit

Christina Korp said people had sought to drive a wedge between the Apollo 11 astronaut, his children and herself.

The former business manager for Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin said she is being unfairly defamed in a lawsuit accusing her and two of his children of misusing his credit cards and slandering him.

Christina Korp also blamed people who began to "exert undue influence" on Mr Aldrin. She said in a tweet that they drove a wedge between the former astronaut, his children and herself.

She told ABC's Good Morning America she is saddened by this.

The lawsuit, filed earlier this month in a Florida state court, came a week after Mr Aldrin's children Andrew and Janice filed a petition claiming he suffers from memory loss, delusions, paranoia and confusion.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/buzz-aldrins-exmanager-claims-she-was-defamed-in-family-lawsuit-37051520.html


So... if he comes out and says: "We didn't go to the moon..."   they will declare him insane so they can protect their secret

[zorgon]

Buzz Aldrin family feud intensifies as ex-astronaut sues two of his children

Lawsuit alleges elder exploitation, fraud and slander
Second man to walk on moon, 88, also sues business partner


Buzz Aldrin accuses his son Andrew and daughter Janice of using his private company and foundation to enrich themselves but they suggest Aldrin himself is being manipulated. Photograph: Anthony Devlin/PA
Buzz Aldrin is suing two of his children and a business partner for elder exploitation and fraud while accusing them of "slander" for suggesting the 88-year-old Aldrin has dementia and Alzheimer's disease.

Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon, claims that his son Andrew and daughter Janice, who oversee both a private company and a non-profit in Aldrin's name, have been using his legacy along with company funds "for their own self-dealing and enrichment". According to the suit filed in Florida, Andrew has pilfered nearly half a million dollars from his father's personal account in the last two years.

Aldrin's adult children deny the allegations and in a statement said they were "deeply disappointed and saddened by the unjustified lawsuit that has been brought against us individually and against the foundation that we have built together as a family to carry on Dad's legacy for generations to come".

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/25/buzz-aldrin-family-feud-intensifies-as-ex-astronaut-sues-two-of-his-children

[petrus4]

I've never felt the moon landing hoax idea could survive Occam's Razor, personally; although given the degree that I used to see pseudoskeptics invoke Occam's Razor to defend their own arguments, I grew to detest the phrase at one point.  Still, I think it genuinely applies here.

What I mean is, the hoax just seems like far too much work to go to, and to place the government at far too great a risk if it was discovered.  NASA's credibility would never recover if they were caught having done something like that.

I think they did go to the Moon.  I also think that the period between 1960 and 1990 was a better time than the current one in more or less general terms; there was more integrity, and so people were able to do bigger and better things.  That is the real reason why no one has gone back to the Moon; because America as an empire is in decline now, and space exploration is something that only happens when a civilisation is at its' peak, both economically and spiritually.

[zorgon]

Occam's Razor has been so abused it is dull and rusted now   It also NEVER allowed for out of the box thinking

I have always known we went to the moon  Just NOT with Apollo. There is NO WAY those tin can mock up cardboard things were space worthy

[zorgon]

So I will repost this from the Apollo Reality.. now use your Occam's Razor and explain to me how this is space worthy

The Tin Can that went to the Moon?

So I have some questions... This Lunar Lander looks like a tin can. Now I have heard John talk about this thing and why it couldn't have possibly made the trip... and we will look at John's stuff in the thread... but Sam Colby has found some interesting pictures direct from NASA that I have never seen before and quite frankly look to me like there is NO WAY that thing had people in it in space.   

By Sam Colby
nasascam@yahoo.com

This photograph was taken inside building No 5 at Johnson Space Center.

It shows astroNOTS sorting over disused metal cabinets, and other junk paraphernalia from which to build a LM for fake photographs. Note the octagonal shaped box left of center, which was used to build the model LM.

Now I want you all to look VERY CLOSELY at the metal work on this contraption and explain to me HOW this thing is space worthy? 

The front end of this LM appears to have undergone some sort of bashing with a sledgehammer or other, well it's only a cardboard model innit, set against a fake backdrop of the Moon surface.

I only hope the astroNOTS were wearing their hard hats when the battering took place.

Okay so WTF? And before you say "Its a FAKE" here is the original in high resolution from NASA



NASA AS16-122-19533 Full Size

AS16-122-19533 (23 April 1972) --- The ascent stage of the Apollo 16 Lunar Module (LM) approaches the Command and Service Modules (CSM) during rendezvous, with a contrasting background of darkness and the moon's Sea of Fertility (Mare Fecundatatis). Taken from the CSM, the photo shows the aft side of the LM during a yaw maneuver. Note the buckled thermal panels. Messier and Messier A (right center) are among the most readily identifiable features on the surface below. While astronauts John W. Young, commander; and Charles M. Duke Jr., lunar module pilot; descended in the Apollo 16 LM "Orion" to explore the Descartes highlands landing site on the moon, astronaut Thomas K. Mattingly II, command module pilot, remained with the CSM "Casper" in lunar orbit.

NASA AS16-122-19533 (23 April 1972)

NASA acknowledges the buckled panels... with a brief note. Below is a close up of the twisted and buckled plates.







And then there is THIS.... from Lunar and Planetary Institute they show AS16-122-19533 to look like this before NASA 'color didling to make the moon GRAY again

The photo below is to ridiculous for words. NASA claim this is the actual Apollo 16 Lunar Module on the Moon. Look at all that gold foil around the base, and why is that gold foil not seen in the photo of Apollo 11 LM, after all they were of the same design. I would like to know how they got the Rover out without tearing this gold foil. In addition to the gold foil there is also some sought of black fabric draped just anywhere. What a mess, moreover what a joke. Look at side of LM. It's made up of sheets of thin metal pop riveted together, or maybe cardboard held together with double sided tape. Even the joints are not seated flat, but buckle out in all directions. The under side looks like corrugated sheet, and even that does not mate correctly with the vertical panels. If this is top quality engineering for such an important mission, then I'm a banana. Can't you PAN's see that this is a quick knock-up job, taken in a studio here on Earth, to satisfy gullible people like yourselves, it could not have landed on Moon. Incidentally Grumman built a life size LM in cardboard, I think this is it.

In the final picture shown below we take a closer look at this supposedly high quality work from Grumman Engineering, and can see just what a botch job that made of it. NASA inform us that this piece of junk cost $350,000,000, (over $25 billion at todays prices). Look at the angle strip on corner edges, they cannot even get the beading strip angle correct, and have left it jutting out.  I don't think NASA is taking the p**s, I know they are. It's a joke, because I have seen better quality work from kindergarten kids building a stage prop for pantomime. Lets face it the whole Apollo project was a pantomime and the Apollo astronauts were nothing more than clowns, but it beggars belief that there are still millions of people around the globe who actually believe the garbage put out by NASA. I find it somewhat scary to think that there are so many people in the world who are completely out of touch with reality. Blame the CIA, after all they saw that TV could be used to brainwash the media, and boy did they take full advantage of it.

By Sam Colby
nasascam@yahoo.com
APOLLO REALITY

Wow... even the thruster housing is all buckled... How can this be?

This sound file is labeled Duke.. has anyone heard it before and who is 'Duke'?  You have anything John?

WAV AUDIO FILE

[petrus4]

So I will repost this from the Apollo Reality.. now use your Occam's Razor and explain to me how this is space worthy

You won't get any argument from me about how NASA's (public, at least) craft are rubbish, Zorgon.  I've thought that for a long time, and it's the reason why I don't think they have any business trying to send people to Mars, if that is the quality of equipment they use.  However, while I won't claim to be nearly as knowledgeable on the subject as you, I've also heard online whispers about the strange and magical things that have possibly been invented under Groom Lake.

So you're probably right.  It makes sense that if a real Moon landing did occur, and there was secret stuff which was better than what NASA publically had, (which I feel pretty much certain there would be, given the other things I've seen) they would not publically disclose the use of that craft in whatever information they did release about the landing.

[astr0144]

Looking at the pictures of the  twisted and buckled plates on the Nasa Space Craft.. if they are for real...
One question is what caused that ?

When the Apollo crafts are built and took off to lift off from Earth... we assume no bucking would have occurred from lift off stage... and the capsules are built under the Earths maximum air pressure acting on the outer side of the Craft/s.

And I assume their problem was to try to be able to equalise the air pressure within the craft thru out its lift off until it got into Space... IF they failed to do this correctly.. from the inner pressure of the craft.. maybe buckling could somehow occurr..

but as the Space crafts rise up higher.. the out side air pressure declines and becomes less of a threat... but I am unsure how they may monitor the inside pressure of the craft or capsule..

I assume that somehow they had a way to maintain the inner and outer pressure so that the inner pressure did not act or become too great as the outer pressure got less  and less as the craft rose up higher to the point where outside air pressure would become less and less..

IF there was some probem with that.... the panels may have buckled to some degree...

or once in space... there would be very little if any pressure acting on the outer area of the craft.... but if the pressure was allowed to build up higher on the innner side of the craft.... that may act to push the inner to the outer panels of the craft outwards and buckle them..

Just how strong and ridgid the materials used were for stages I am not sure... BUT I recall seeing a replica of the Apollo Saturn V at Cape Canaveral in Florida and it seemed quite thick and strong  solid material...




No doubt some parts of it were designed to be lighter weight  but strong... or maybe some sort of Aluminium alloy...

on doing a quick search on bing there seems very little information available about the materials used in Apollo Saturn V..  but this refers to some Aluminium Alloys..

What is Apollo 11 ship made of?
In   Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, Apollo Moon Missions   

The command module's inner structure was an aluminum "sandwich" consisting of a welded aluminum inner skin, a thermally bonded honeycomb core, and a thin aluminum "face sheet". The central heat shield consisted of 40 individual panels interspersed with several holes and openings for the reaction control engines and after-compartment equipment access. The central compartment structure consisted of an inner aluminum face sheet with a steel honeycomb core, a glass-phenolic ablative honeycomb heat shield, a layer of q-felt fibrous insulation, a pore seal, a moisture barrier, and a layer of aluminized PET film thermal strips.

The aft heat shield consisted of four brazed honeycomb panels, four spot-welded sheet metal fairings, and a circumferential ring. The fairing segments were attached to the honeycomb panels and ring with conventional fasteners. The steel honeycomb core and outer face sheets were then thermally bonded to the inner skin in a giant autoclave. The aft heat shield is nearly identical to the central, with the exception of the outer alluminized PET film layer.

Its suggested most fuel in the Apollo flights was used to lift the the main important stages (That I assume was for the Command and Lunar Module) to get into space... and several lower stages of the Apollo were departed and was returned back to Earth that carried most of the fuel to allow the final stage to break out of the Earths atmosphere and into space.
I am not sure if one of the larger fuel sections also ened up in space.. maybe it did...

But How much Fuel would then be required to fly the remaining parts / stages of the craft to the moon and also allow it  to return back to Earth..


On the return it was just purely the Command Module.. so I assume that command and connected Lunar module also may have been the only part of the craft to fly to the moon once it got into space from Earth...

I think it can be hard to recall exactly what stages were said to occur during the various stages in the flight..

Once the command module was in space... it was only a small part of the original apollo craft...and would then not need as much fuel to propel it thru space...  BUT just how much was required to take it all the way to the moon ?

and how was the fuel prepared and carried....   Was it as a liquid or gas form / or compressed... and what weight and capacity was required to carry it ?

These are the questions that we would need to consider..

and from what I can recall one of the main things that John suggested that they could not carry enough fuel to get the craft to the moon , let alone also to come back ?


So my question is HOW MUCH FUEL WOULD THE LATER STAGES THAT GOT INTO SPACE ACTUALLY CARRY AND HOW MUCH WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO GET THOSE FINAL STAGEs/ sections  TO THE MOON..

Was they using some sort of special fuel cell or something other than just a liquid or gas type fuel ?

that may of allowed the craft to travel the distances required or was it just a case that this was not available or possible back then or even now..

Could they have compressed fuel somehow or other in some form that may have allowed them to have more than what we may have  considered.. or is that just very unlikely !

Command/Service Module
Main article: Apollo Command/Service Module
The cone-shaped Command Module, attached to the cylindrical Service Module, orbits the Moon with a panel removed, exposing the Scientific Instrument Module
Apollo 15 CSM in lunar orbit

The Command Module (CM) was the conical crew cabin, designed to carry three astronauts from launch to lunar orbit and back to an Earth ocean landing. It was the only component of the Apollo spacecraft to survive without major configuration changes as the program evolved from the early Apollo study designs. Its exterior was covered with an ablative heat shield, and had its own reaction control system (RCS) engines to control its attitude and steer its atmospheric entry path. Parachutes were carried to slow its descent to splashdown. The module was 11.42 feet (3.48 m) tall, 12.83 feet (3.91 m) in diameter, and weighed approximately 12,250 pounds (5,560 kg).[46]

A cylindrical Service Module (SM) supported the Command Module, with a service propulsion engine and an RCS with propellants, and a fuel cell power generation system with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen reactants. A high-gain S-band antenna was used for long-distance communications on the lunar flights. On the extended lunar missions, an orbital scientific instrument package was carried. The Service Module was discarded just before re-entry. The module was 24.6 feet (7.5 m) long and 12.83 feet (3.91 m) in diameter. The initial lunar flight version weighed approximately 51,300 pounds (23,300 kg) fully fueled, while a later version designed to carry a lunar orbit scientific instrument package weighed just over 54,000 pounds (24,000 kg).[46]

This link shows some of the stages that I refer to in the various operations....and answers some of the questions that I refer to... ie the type of fuel was liquid hydogen  and a final stage took the command module actually into space...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_program

fuel cell power generation system with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen reactants.

when it shows stage 3 to 4.... At what point does occur I wonder.... is it done early on when its still close to Earth  or as it approaches the moon or inbetween somewhere..

I ask this because if the craft had started to start its journey to the moon and had gained some momentum... it would not seem likely that they would slow down  or stop the craft for it it to depart from what seems a last main stage that actually took it into space..

but also that last main stage may contain a fair ammount  of fuel (more than that just in the command module) to allow  the overall sections of the crafts  to travel further towards the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_program




Launch The 3 Saturn V stages burn for about 11 minutes to achieve a 100-nautical-mile (190 km) circular parking orbit. The third stage burns a small portion of its fuel to achieve orbit



Translunar injection After one to two orbits to verify readiness of spacecraft systems, the S-IVB third stage reignites for about 6 minutes to send the spacecraft to the Moon.




Transposition and docking (1) The Spacecraft Lunar Module Adapter (SLA) panels separate to free the CSM and expose the LM. The Command Module Pilot (CMP) moves the CSM out a safe distance, and turns 180°.


Transposition and docking (2), The CMP docks with the LM, and pulls the combined spacecraft away from the S-IVB, which then is sent into solar orbit. The lunar voyage takes between 2 and 3 days. Midcourse corrections are made as necessary using the SM engine.



Lunar orbit insertion The spacecraft passes about 60 nautical miles (110 km) behind the Moon, and the SM engine is fired to slow the spacecraft and put it into a 60-by-170-nautical-mile (110 by 310 km) orbit, which is soon circularized at 60 nautical miles by a second burn.






BUT no Matter what...I would find it VERY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT NASA ENGINEERS.... Would appear to be showing what seems like very flimsy thin flexible panels on their Saturn V / Lunar modules Apollo program that would buckle as much as is shown in some of those photos and its the 1st time that I have seen such photos showing buckled panels on any Apollo craft...

Possibly this could be the lower parts of the Lunar module when it took of and split apart from the LM legged lower section as it took off from the lunar surface and maybe they are some sort of now distorted heat shields and not metallic panels....

but I am not really sure what it is we are seeing....with any certainty...




Some panels appear on the side of the Lunar Module which I dont think are purely heat shields..




This show the panels of the Lunar Module while its still in full tact.... before it took off and split apart...or lifted of from the moons surface... either that or its just a replica photo to make it appear as its from the moon...

[The Seeker]

Astro, you are putting apples in the peach bowl; the buckled plates are on the lunar module ascent stage, specifically where the upper and lower units were joined;

part of what is shown in that picture are thermal shields to protect the bottom of the ascent stage from the blast of the motor as they lifted off; they are semi-ridgid material to begin with

Gus Grissom (RIP) called the entire NASA program from Mercury to Apollo a dog and pony show for the public and said he and the other astronauts were "spam in a can".

[astr0144]

I can make out some of the buckled images are from the Lunar Module.. but some of the others I am not sure that I really know what it is that I am seeing...

on some of the diagrams that I posted... it shows how the lunar and command module are positioned and connect to each other... but some of the buckled pictures images "Z "posted do not  seem like the lunar or command module to me.. so I am not really sure what the image actually is ..

can you tell me exactly what part this is... as it does not like like either module that I referred to.

I am not sure how you mean or relate to the blast of the motor.... is that  from lift off from Earth or seperation of certain stages in space or from the moon ?

I ask as during lift off from Earth stage....the Command and Lunar module are at the top part of the Saturn V...  they are not near the lower engines where the main blasts from the engines would be..and they are enclosed  or connected to the 3rd stage higher up further away from the main engine blasts on take off.....



is this image a combination of command and lunar module or just the Lunar Module or something else that connected with either of them ?


or is it this part when it lifts of and seperates from lift off from the moons lunar surface  or later after it reconnects with the commnad module and then later departs it again....  but the image shows the moon close up in the background...so its something that was taken near to the moon stage....? which when I look what you have said again .. is what I think you mean !

You have to forgive me... its a LONG times since I have looked at the Apollo or Saturn V craft or details.. or stages of the parts of the Space Craft and some parts I have not even ever really thought about...

but hopefully my comments will refer or remind readers  some details about it without them having to do full further research...as I am sure many were not fully familiar..

and hopefully some of my questions will still relate to Johns theories they we may want to still consider as to whether or not the Apollo program went to the moon or not...

Astro, you are putting apples in the peach bowl; the buckled plates are on the lunar module ascent stage, specifically where the upper and lower units were joined;

part of what is shown in that picture are thermal shield

Astro, you are putting apples in the peach bowl; the buckled plates are on the lunar module ascent stage, specifically where the upper and lower units were joined;

part of what is shown in that picture are thermal shields to protect the bottom of the ascent stage from the blast of the motor as they lifted off; they are semi-ridgid material to begin with

Gus Grissom (RIP) called the entire NASA program from Mercury to Apollo a dog and pony show for the public and said he and the other astronauts were "spam in a can".

Sorry about this.....

On my prior posts.... YOu can see the same content as below...

I intended to add some further content to this post as is also now shown in the prior ..

on making the added ammendment.... I accidently added to the wrong post... and when I finally noticed I was no longer able to delete this same content from the prior post..

so I am adding it to this one as well.... Hope that explains..

BUT no Matter what...I would find it VERY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT NASA ENGINEERS.... Would appear to be showing what seems like very flimsy thin flexible panels on their Saturn V / Lunar modules Apollo program that would buckle as much as is shown in some of those photos and its the 1st time that I have seen such photos showing buckled panels on any Apollo craft...

Possibly this could be the lower parts of the Lunar module when it took of and split apart from the LM legged lower section as it took off from the lunar surface and maybe they are some sort of now distorted heat shields and not metallic panels....

but I am not really sure what it is we are seeing....with any certainty...






Some panels appear on the side of the Lunar Module which I dont think are purely heat shields..




This show the panels of the Lunar Module while its still in full tact.... before it took off and split apart...or lifted of from the moons surface... either that or its just a replica photo to make it appear as its from the moon...

[astr0144]

For some reason some of the content Zorgon posted did not appear correct and I could not easily read it...so I am adding those parts that I could not see very well..

On looking again , I can now see it refers to certain details that I had not really noticed first time.. esp in ref to the image below..

[b]The ascent stage of the Apollo 16 Lunar Module (LM[/b]) approaches the Command and Service Modules (CSM) during rendezvous, with a contrasting background of darkness and the moon's Sea of Fertility (Mare Fecundatatis). Taken from the CSM, the photo shows the aft side of the LM during a yaw maneuver. Note the buckled thermal panels. Messier and Messier A (right center) are among the most readily identifiable features on the surface below

Does the aft side of the LM during a yaw manouver mean that you can see its under section side that would have joined with the legged part of the LM that gets left on the moon when the LM takes off from the Lunar surface of the Moon ?

AFT  Meaning  .....adv. & adj.
At, in, toward, or close to the stern of a vessel or ]the rear of an aircraft or spacecraft

YAW meaning

    (of a moving ship or aircraft) twist or oscillate about a vertical axis.

Not sure about the Direction of flight shown in this diagram ! 






The Lunar Module is in two main parts known as the Accent and Decent stages...

The Decent stage is the lower part with the legs that land on the Moon..

The accent stage  :   is the top part of the LM  that splits apart and takes off when the LM lifts off from the Lunar or Moons surface to go back towards  and reconnect back to the Command Module.... to then return back to Earth.

The descent stage thermal shield combines multiple layers of aluminized mylar and H-film with an outer skin of H-film. In areas where micrometeorite protection is required, one layer of black-painted inconel is used as skin. The shield is mounted on supports, which keep it at least 1/2 inch away from the main structure. The supports have low thermal conductivity. A base heat shield, composed of titanium with a blanket of alternate layers of nickel foil and fiberfax outside, protects the bottom of the descent stage from engine heat, In addition, the engine compartment is protected by a titanium shield with a thermal blanket of multiple layers of nickel foil and fiberfax under an outer blanket of H-film.

https://dodlithr.blogspot.com/2014/08/lm-descent-to-moon-part-2-hardware.html

This photograph was taken inside building No 5 at Johnson Space Center.

It shows astroNOTS sorting over disused metal cabinets, and other junk paraphernalia from which to build a LM for fake photographs. Note the octagonal shaped box left of center, which was used to build the model LM.

The front end of this LM appears to have undergone some sort of bashing with a sledgehammer or other, well it's only a cardboard model innit, set against a fake backdrop of the Moon surface.

I only hope the astroNOTS were wearing their hard hats when the battering took place.

AS16-122-19533 (23 April 1972) --- The ascent stage of the Apollo 16 Lunar Module (LM) approaches the Command and Service Modules (CSM) during rendezvous, with a contrasting background of darkness and the moon's Sea of Fertility (Mare Fecundatatis). Taken from the CSM, the photo shows the aft side of the LM during a yaw maneuver. Note the buckled thermal panels. Messier and Messier A (right center) are among the most readily identifiable features on the surface below. While astronauts John W. Young, commander; and Charles M. Duke Jr., lunar module pilot; descended in the Apollo 16 LM "Orion" to explore the Descartes highlands landing site on the moon, astronaut Thomas K. Mattingly II, command module pilot, remained with the CSM "Casper" in lunar orbit.

I assume as its Apollo 16.... that the design changed since Apollo 11 days and they had added the Gold foil to the LM for some reason..

You probably remember the lunar modules, wrapped in bright gold like a present to the cosmos. I always thought that there was one layer of foil to reflect the harsh sunlight in space.

I was surprised to see that this blanket from the Apollo 16 LM was made of 26 layers, of different colors and thicknesses.

As I recently learned, the foil was also a thermal blanket, not just a reflector. Earlier this month, EDN Magazine interviewed Grumman's Ross Bracco, one of 25 engineers who began development of the LEM, as it was first called:

Still another major challenge Bracco and his team faced was the fact that the LEM was expected to land on the sunny side of the lunar surface, which meant an environmental temperature of 250°F and a shade temperature of -250°F. A low-cost technique was needed to insulate and protect the LEM's structural materials, including the landing feet. The team decided to use 12 to 18 layers of Kapton or aluminized Mylar material sandwiched together in a 70°F earth clean room and trap the air with a special sealing tape. This trapped air remained permanently at 70°F and was used in many areas of the LEM, including the cupped landing feet. The 'foil' around much of the LEM was made with 2- and 5-mil aluminized Kapton film.

https://dodlithr.blogspot.com/2014/08/lm-descent-to-moon-part-2-hardware.html

The photo below is to ridiculous for words. NASA claim this is the actual Apollo 16 Lunar Module on the Moon. Look at all that gold foil around the base, and why is that gold foil not seen in the photo of Apollo 11 LM, after all they were of the same design. I would like to know how they got the Rover out without tearing this gold foil. In addition to the gold foil there is also some sought of black fabric draped just anywhere. What a mess, moreover what a joke. Look at side of LM. It's made up of sheets of thin metal pop riveted together, or maybe cardboard held together with double sided tape. Even the joints are not seated flat, but buckle out in all directions. The under side looks like corrugated sheet, and even that does not mate correctly with the vertical panels. If this is top quality engineering for such an important mission, then I'm a banana. Can't you PAN's see that this is a quick knock-up job, taken in a studio here on Earth, to satisfy gullible people like yourselves, it could not have landed on Moon. Incidentally Grumman built a life size LM in cardboard, I think this is it.

Astro, you are putting apples in the peach bowl; the buckled plates are on the lunar module ascent stage, specifically where the upper and lower units were joined;

part of what is shown in that picture are thermal shields to protect the bottom of the ascent stage from the blast of the motor as they lifted off; they are semi-ridgid material to begin with

Gus Grissom (RIP) called the entire NASA program from Mercury to Apollo a dog and pony show for the public and said he and the other astronauts were "spam in a can".