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Started by The Seeker, January 14, 2019, 08:13:03 PM

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micjer

What bugs me the most is that congress and senate seem to vote along party lines.  Can they not think on their own and break away without consequences.  They are supposed to be representing their particular constituents not their fearless leaders.

I agree cut off the representative's paycheck and then see how long it takes to get resolved.

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

robomont

i didnt vote.after screwing ron paul.forget it.
its all a scam.
irs just paid out chump change to t party affiliates.
repukes kicked paulites out of new orleans convention also.
forget it.
its freemasons and religitards running this country.a sure sign the end is near.
they couldnt kill us so instead its gonna be an entire planet of third worlders.

ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

The Seeker

Quote from: robomont on January 16, 2019, 02:41:04 AM
i didnt vote.after screwing ron paul.forget it.
its all a scam.
irs just paid out chump change to t party affiliates.
repukes kicked paulites out of new orleans convention also.
forget it.
its freemasons and religitards running this country.a sure sign the end is near.
they couldnt kill us so instead its gonna be an entire planet of third worlders.
Robo, that attitude you have is shared by too many people out there now; "I ain't gonna do nothing, it's all rigged, blah, blah, blah..."

Nothing changes unless it is made to change, one way, or another; no action begets no action so, unless you put forth the effort to make something happen,it ain't happening

::) ::) ::)

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spacemaverick

#18
Some people do not like social media.  Most people do not like to take the time and do research.  I didn't either at one point in my life.  I was challenged by my father-in-law who would tell me things he knew from experience.  This prompted me to start digging into many different subjects put out on mainstream media (I call it lamestream media).  I was mortified to find things that were told to us as people which were not true.  Remember, lies will always contain a grain of truth.  You have to be careful not to get sucked into the lies that are transmitted by the media.  You have to be careful not to go too far down the rabbit hole lest you get depressed.

Consider all the chaos going on all over the world right now.  My opinion, it is all orchestrated by very powerful and rich people.  Create confusion along with using deception, educate the younger generation to your ideas and within a couple of generations you will have changed the course of history and the future.  Remember, history in the open is written by the victors.

I have taken on the task to inform, educate and advice whom I can by use of my personal contacts through the Internet and social media.  I use a blog, I generate notes on Facebook,  I find alternative news that I have (to the best of my ability) researched to see if they put out good information.  There is actually a simple fact checking and truth checking formula to determine validity.

Here is a video that sums up mostly what I believe.



Mass confusion and chaos is the order of the day.  It began many years ago.  Our current president here in the USA was elected by people who wanted change.  The activities of the people in power using what is called "useful idiots" (people who are suckered into their system).  The people in power gain much control as most of the people are suckered into a system that will eventually take down the last bastion of freedom, the USA.

Oh, by the way,  Putin also stands against the global cabal.  I don't like their form of government but he stands against these powerful globalists.

Three presidents have warned us all and we did not listen.  Those videos are to come in my next entry.

From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

zorgon

Quote from: robomont on January 16, 2019, 02:41:04 AM
its freemasons and religitards running this country.a sure sign the end is near.
they couldnt kill us so instead its gonna be an entire planet of third worlders.

The FACT  that despite all the election fraud, the fixed voting machines, signing up dead people and getting the illegals to vote that the Demonrats tried last election... still resulted in a LOSS for them... shows that what you say is not true.

Whether or not you like Trump is irrelevant... the FACT is that "we the people" spoke up and turned out in record numbers to get "anyone but Hillary" elected... and it worked

They dumped Bernie, they told Bernie to support Hillary in the same way that Hillary was told to step down and support Obama in 2008...

But they didn't count on the FACT that Bernie supporters were dead set against Hillary...  and many of those voted against her. Bernie even said that if you ever hear him say to support another candidate, to NOT LISTEN TO HIM (and this is verified by a staunch liberal living in my house right now)

The lamestream media and the Demonrats claim that they won the POPULAR vote.  Well all you have to do is look at the attendance of the rallies. Demonrat ones were mostly empty, they even photoshopped crowds into one that only had 24 people show up (Bill Clinton in Ohio) and Kane managed a show of 3 people in a Florida rally.  Yet Trump's rallies were over flowing with thousands.

In Utah they didn't have enough ballots because they did not expect voter turnout  but the voters did come out, lined up in the freezing cold for HOURS to get that ballot in...

So doing nothing is worse then voting even if its for "the lesser evil"  At least you can then earn the right to bitch and whine :P


The FACT is that unprecedented voter turnout swayed the day...  and I am sure even Trump was surprised he won


The Seeker

Very good, Mav, now let us hope some will pay attention and realize that it is up to us to continue to make changes; it is common knowledge that Saul Allinskis' manifesto has and is being used by the GC to further their agenda, Hillary wrote her college thesis on his work about "useful idiots",and unfortunately we do have quite a large number of them thanks to the leftist driven education system instilled since the 60's; but there is still hope, and I urge everyone to continue the effort to open both the minds and eyes of we the people to reality

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spacemaverick

Quote from: The Seeker on January 17, 2019, 04:16:14 PM
Very good, Mav, now let us hope some will pay attention and realize that it is up to us to continue to make changes; it is common knowledge that Saul Allinskis' manifesto has and is being used by the GC to further their agenda, Hillary wrote her college thesis on his work about "useful idiots",and unfortunately we do have quite a large number of them thanks to the leftist driven education system instilled since the 60's; but there is still hope, and I urge everyone to continue the effort to open both the minds and eyes of we the people to reality

8) 8) 8)

We need to continue to inform and educate until the end of time.  Maybe we can reach some in our spheres of influence.  We can't change the world but we can inform and educate 1 person at a time.  They will then spread the word.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

micjer

I am far from a fan of the current president, however the election process did put him in power even if was by a "better than the other candidate" win.

I will give him credit though for following up on his campaign promises.  He may not have been able to do everything, but he has tried to put forward bills to complete his ideas.

The biggest problem with this standoff, in my opinion, is that it all about ego now.  Both sides want to say they won, meanwhile holding the country hostage.  The 5.7 billion is chump change in the whole scheme of things.   Just keep the printing presses going. 
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

The Seeker

Mic, all I can say is that if she had won, I have serious doubts that we would be able to have this discourse; for most of what we know would have been reduced to radioactive ash by now, for both the USA and Russia...

It could be better, could have been a hell of a lot worse, so now is the time to spread the word and point out just how batshit crazy some of them are and lobby to send them packing

8)

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The Seeker

Quote from: spacemaverick on January 17, 2019, 05:29:22 PM
We need to continue to inform and educate until the end of time.  Maybe we can reach some in our spheres of influence.  We can't change the world but we can inform and educate 1 person at a time.  They will then spread the word.
Agreed  8) The original school of learning was a log with a seeker of knowledge on one end and someone willing to share their knowledge on the other; it worked well way back then, and it still works well today

but we can't grow complacent, nor be lax in our efforts, for every mind that begins to consider the facts will also begin to doubt the false and misleading information being force fed to them, pausing to ponder and perhaps reconsider the path they had been following...

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ArMaP

Quote from: The Seeker on January 18, 2019, 01:26:21 AM
It could be better, could have been a hell of a lot worse, so now is the time to spread the word and point out just how batshit crazy some of them are and lobby to send them packing
I disagree.

I think we should present only facts, about every thing, and leave the conclusions about craziness (or whatever) to those we are presenting the facts to.

Facts yes, but without our own bias.

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on January 18, 2019, 07:49:08 AM
Facts yes, but without our own bias.

Without bias we are merely bleating sheep :P

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on January 18, 2019, 12:38:19 PM
Without bias we are merely bleating sheep :P
From what I have seen many people today are sheep with a bias, just not their own bias but an "already made bias" someone presented them.

When we are explaining or teaching something to someone we should act as impartial as possible, so the people learning make their own mind based on the facts we show them. If we present the facts tainted with our own bias we are perpetuating the situation and doing what other people did to us.

spacemaverick

Quote from: ArMaP on January 18, 2019, 07:49:08 AM
I disagree.

I think we should present only facts, about every thing, and leave the conclusions about craziness (or whatever) to those we are presenting the facts to.

Facts yes, but without our own bias.

I agree.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

The Seeker

Quote from: ArMaP on January 18, 2019, 02:10:55 PM
From what I have seen many people today are sheep with a bias, just not their own bias but an "already made bias" someone presented them.
That is exactly the issue we are dealing with here, ArMaP ; since the 1960's (it started with Lyndon Johnson and his "great society" crap) the schools and universities here in the US have been deliberately pushing leftist liberal programming, creating a very heavily biased agenda from pre-school onward...

QuoteWhen we are explaining or teaching something to someone we should act as impartial as possible, so the people learning make their own mind based on the facts we show them.
All well and good, if the student is willing to cast aside the bias already instilled in them over 12-16 years of schooling and openly look at things with open eyes and see past the heavy layers of propaganda they are immersed in...
QuoteIf we present the facts tainted with our own bias we are perpetuating the situation and doing what other people did to us.
At times there is no other way except to push hard to get them to see that there is another side to the coin, that there are other issues to consider, and it is a matter of making a choice between the two, not blindly following the path that has been laid out before them,but to consider all the issues at hand, carefully examine the evidence, then choose...

you have to be a pain in the ass with some because that is the most direct route to their brain  ::)

There are basically 3 types to deal with at this time; sheep, wolves, and shepherds, and a good shepherd tries to not only guide the herd but to care for them and protect them from harm

8)

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