Back lash against migrant begins...

[zorgon]

So, to you, even the peaceful are bad.

Well that is a yes and no situation. I have associated with many Muslims from Egypt Turkey and Morocco  (even had a Moroccan fellow rent a room with us for a year... All of them on an PERSONAL individual basis were very nice people... we never talked religion.  Only one Moroccan girl (She is actually a true blood Berber but they had to convert to Islam or die)that stayed with us from Paris (from the French Moroccan district) ever discussed religion but then she was a lesbian and was concerned for her safety

Her name is Samira and here she is with our Elf Endrina



In the SCA we are in the Kingdom of Caid, and as such since that Kingdom portrays the Middle East we all have an Arabic secondary persona  

And gotta have Bellydancers

However, when it comes to the current political situation, the vast majority are sitting in the sidelines waiting for the radicals to take over. We have already seem several Mosques raided that were storing weapons in vast quantities.

make no mistake about it... they will slowly take over from within... and there is no way to stop it other than using methods that the free world abhors.

This is already the scene in London and most cities in Western Europe... and soon will be all across the US

Our two cultures are really NOT compatable   and once they have the strength of numbers you will see a slow but steady take over, like prayer towers calling the faithful to pray like they already have in that town in Michigan

[zorgon]

I guess I'm a leftist liberal dumbass, but I get along just fine with my Muslim coworkers.  Even the ones who take time out the shift to pray.  None of the residents have died because they're scared for by Muslims and a leftist liberal dumbass pagan. We must be doing something right.

LOL well just for the record here is a History of Islam in America...

Quite interesting, even if the first ones were mostly slaves...

A brief history of Islam in America
Islam's roots in America go back to the Founding Fathers.


C. D. Arnold (1844-1927); H. D. Higinbotham (Project Gutenberg/public domain)
The scene at the Chicago "Cairo street" mosque provides a glimpse of the Islamic experience in America in the 1890s — both among Chicago's Muslims and as a sort of exoticized curiosity for non-Muslims

https://www.vox.com/2015/12/22/10645956/islam-in-america

[Shasta56]

Yes, I was aware that many of the people enslaved were Muslim. 

[WhatTheHey]

   Hello all you peoples, The Islam religion is indeed full of references to killing "disbelievers" as they put it.  Even and unto there own people should they decide to leave the Muslim faith.  If you think this is wrong you should read it for your self.  Basically if you try to worship or practice something other then Islam in a Islamic place or to one of them, you are attacking them and they are to kill you.

    9:9   Sahih International
"They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted [people] from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing."

    9:12   Sahih International
"And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease."

   9:14    Sahih International
"Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people."

   Well that's just three examples, there are many many more. It is a hate filled religion that speaks often of killing anyone who attacks Islam.  The problem there is they interpret teaching or believing in something other then Islam as an attack on them.

   9:30    Sahih International
"The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?"

   There are more to be sure, but if you don't think this is so, read it for yourself.   Here is the beginning....   https://quran.com/9/1-11

    Hope this helps enlighten.       Have a great day!   

[petrus4]

I guess I'm a leftist liberal dumbass, but I get along just fine with my Muslim coworkers.  Even the ones who take time out the shift to pray.  None of the residents have died because they're scared for by Muslims and a leftist liberal dumbass pagan. We must be doing something right.

According to the Pew Research numbers that I've seen, the number of Muslims who hold opinions which could be considered dangerous, (support for honour killing, stoning for adultery, the death penalty for apostasy etc) are generally around 55-60%; although it varies a bit by country, and Egypt, Nigeria, and Pakistan seem to be the three countries which have the biggest problems relating to fanaticism.

In one respect, Christianity and Islam are polar opposites.  Jesus Christ was (with one noted exception) a pacifist.  This means that pacifism is orthodox Christian behaviour, and violence is a deviation from Christ's example.

Mohammed, by contrast, was a Middle Eastern equivalent of Genghis Khan, and Islamic territorial conquest began within his lifetime.  Wahhabist fanatics are therefore correct when they say that non-militant Muslims are theological deviants, and that violence is an unavoidable prerequisite of following Mohammed's example, or the Sunnah as they call it.

When looking at that photo from Michigan, however, the thought did occur to me that to a certain extent, non-Islamic Americans need to take a degree of responsibility for the religion's spread in the country.

America is currently a degenerate society, by the measure of virtually any pre-existing civilisational model that we have, whether Abrahamic or otherwise.  The other, even more serious problem, is the fact that American degeneracy is evangelical and contagious; it spreads due to its' appeal to the most negative elements of human nature.  Given its' murderously punitive and coercive nature, Islam's particular specialty is its' ability to infiltrate and conquer decadent societies. 



Islam is capable of providing its' adherents with a level of direction and structure that the currently Marxist-infiltrated West does not, because the specific objective of Marxism is to destroy previously coherent, stable civilisations.  It also enforces a sociological model which is supportive of human reproduction and survival.

For as long as America and Europe maintained ethically strong, and therefore vibrant societies of their own, Islam was held back.  In comparison with the disciplined, but still relatively free and independent ethos of nineteenth century or frontier America, Islam was excessively restrictive and undesirable.  The problem is that because individual integrity has largely disappeared, and with it the ability to maintain a stable and productive life, for those who want stability, Islam can appear very desirable in comparison with current mainstream thinking.

Truth be told, with the exception of my enjoyment of marijuana and psychedelics, if it were not also for the religion's requirement for violence, I could have been an exemplary Muslim; at least before my initial time in Nimbin in 2011.  I am celibate, and at that time was actively vegetarian and was engaging in Shakta religious practice.

The problem is that I also wish to remain solitary, and I refuse to tolerate life under the supervision of anyone else.  Islam is collectively focused.

[zorgon]

According to the Pew Research numbers that I've seen, the number of Muslims who hold opinions which could be considered dangerous, (support for honour killing, stoning for adultery, the death penalty for apostasy etc) are generally around 55-60%; although it varies a bit by country, and Egypt, Nigeria, and Pakistan seem to be the three countries which have the biggest problems relating to fanaticism

According to a study in 2015, Islam has 1.8 billion adherents, making up about 24.1% of the world population. Most Muslims are either of two denominations: Sunni (80–90%, roughly 1.5 billion people) or Shia (10–20%, roughly 170–340 million people).

So 55-60% of that number

In one respect, Christianity and Islam are polar opposites.  Jesus Christ was (with one noted exception) a pacifist.  This means that pacifism is orthodox Christian behaviour, and violence is a deviation from Christ's example.

When looking at that photo from Michigan, however, the thought did occur to me that to a certain extent, non-Islamic Americans need to take a degree of responsibility for the religion's spread in the country.

That photo was from Chicago... the Muslim majority city is in Hamtramck, Michigan ... What I find interesting is that many wear the full burka even though there is no need to here in the US.

But you are correct, many non-Islamic Americans ARE DIRECTLY responsible... mostly the Democrats who seem to have an agenda around the world to bring in the Muslim.  happening in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the USA and in Europe as well.

I do NOT know why... because they do so at the expense of other religions and their own citizens...

By the time most people see what is happening it WILL be too late to stop it, unless we are prepared to accept full out war and genocide as an option, and i don't see that happening any time soon.

I SUSPECT the source is the Khazars... which consist of the House of Saud and the Zionist Jews.  I have my reasons and documentation to back up that suspicion, but not going to post that in this thread

But to what end?  And why are white Christian Democrats supporting this?

[zorgon]

New Zealand has gone on a gun confiscation spree after that Mosque Shooting... The New Zealand prime minister dons a head scarf and gives an Islamic prayer 

But will gun control stop anything?  Well Canada has very strict gun laws Just try and get a hand gun legally there (You can but it is almost impossible)


One of my old hangout areas when I was in Toronto..

The Danforth shooting was a mass shooting that occurred on Danforth Avenue in the Greektown neighbourhood of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, on the night of July 22, 2018. Faisal Hussain killed two people and wounded thirteen (eight directly) using a Smith & Wesson M&P .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol. He committed suicide after a shootout with Toronto Police Service (TPS) officers

The Quebec City mosque shooting (French: Attentat de la grande mosquée de Québec) was a terrorist attack and mass shooting on the evening of January 29, 2017, at the Islamic Cultural Centre of Quebec City, a mosque in the Sainte-Foy neighbourhood of Quebec City, Canada. Six worshippers were killed and nineteen others injured when a terrorist opened fire just before 8:00 pm, shortly after the end of evening prayers. Fifty-three people were reported present at the time of the shooting.

The perpetrator, Alexandre Bissonnette, was charged with six counts of first-degree murder. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Premier Philippe Couillard called the shooting a terrorist attack, but Bissonnette was not charged under the terrorism provision of the Criminal Code. On February 8, 2019, Bissonnette was sentenced to life in prison, with no possibility of parole for 40 years. On March 8, 2019, it was reported that Bissonnette was appealing this sentence.

[Irene]

I do NOT know why... because they do so at the expense of other religions and their own citizens...

I can answer that, short and sweet . . .

We are dealing with masses of PC lemmings, brainwashed by the socialist educational systems in many First World countries.

The Soviets won by eroding our freedoms from within, as they said they would way back in the 60's. They knew then, and probably well before, that they couldn't defeat us head-on.

The President should have listened to Patton.

[zorgon]

We are dealing with masses of PC lemmings, brainwashed by the socialist educational systems in many First World countries.

I fear you are correct... It would be interesting to give all those PC lemmings a week vacation in any Islamic nation and see what they say then

So how are you doing these days?

[ArMaP]

Our two cultures are really NOT compatable   and once they have the strength of numbers you will see a slow but steady take over, like prayer towers calling the faithful to pray like they already have in that town in Michigan

Having a temple where they can practice their religion is "taking over"?

What's the difference between a church and its bells and a mosque and its minaret?

[ArMaP]

If you think this is wrong you should read it for your self.

Already did, I read the Quran some years ago.

Basically if you try to worship or practice something other then Islam in a Islamic place or to one of them, you are attacking them and they are to kill you.

No, all the Abrahamic religions are accepted by Islam, as they have a common basis.

[WhatTheHey]

No, all the Abrahamic religions are accepted by Islam, as they have a common basis.

   As you put it they have a common base.....lol And only if they don't do anything to turn some one away from Allah.   You need to read it again closer.  They have it written that they should do harm and even kill their own family members if they believe something other then Islam. So No. Is wrong. Your not even addressing the statements made.

   Here is a link to the first page of the Quran and the rest of it too.     https://quran.com/1

[zorgon]

Sharia law in Toronto Canada..

Mother convicted of killing daughters in 'honour killing' ordered deported — after life sentence served
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/03/15/mother-convicted-of-killing-tbhree-daughters-in-honour-killing-ordered-deported-after-life-sentence-served.html

Canadian Islam convert strangled in honour killing: Cops
https://torontosun.com/news/world/canadian-islam-convert-strangled-in-honour-killing-cops

Honour killings in Canada: even worse than we believe
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/honour-killings-in-canada-even-worse-than-we-believe/article1314263/

Man convicted in Jassi Sidhu's 'honour killing' obtained permanent residency in Canada
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jassi-sidhu-darshan-singh-immigration-1.4584594

Shafia parents and son, convicted in honour killing of four family members, seek new trial
Mohammad Shafia, 62, his wife Tooba, 45, and son Hamed, 24, claim
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/shafia-parents-and-son-convicted-in-honour-killing-of-four-family-members-seek-new-trial

Man convicted of killing daughter in clash over hijab dies in Ontario prison
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/muhammad-parvez-killer-daughter-hijab-clash-1.4002891

Preliminary Examination of so-called "Honour Killings" in Canada
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/fv-vf/hk-ch/p2.html

Meanwhile ArMap plays Ostrich

[WhatTheHey]

Meanwhile ArMap plays Ostrich

   Your just a bit colder then I Zog!  LOL 

[ArMaP]

Your not even addressing the statements made.

I did.

Here is a link to the first page of the Quran and the rest of it too.     https://quran.com/1

I don't need it, I have a semi-official (the only official version is in Arabic) commented copy in Portuguese.