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Started by zorgon, March 26, 2019, 06:52:14 PM

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ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on April 16, 2019, 07:46:47 AM
Have you ever seen a Muslim hospital
I haven't seen a Muslim hospital with my own eyes, but that's not surprising, as there aren't that many Muslims in Portugal. In Muslim countries they do have hospitals, obviously.

QuoteHave you ever seen a bush fire brigade with Muslims helping to put out the fires?
A specific fire brigade, advertised as such? No, never, and I haven't seen any Christian fire brigade either, or from any other religion.

QuoteHave you ever seen a canteen manned by Muslims supplying tea and coffee to victims or workers of any disaster?
Once more, personally, I haven't, but I haven't see any canteen for victims or workers of any disaster.

QuoteHow many Muslim sponsored Surfing Life Savings Clubs have you seen?
I didn't have the slightest idea of what a Surfing Life Savings Club was, I had to do a search. After knowing what that is I find it a stupid question.

QuoteHave you ever heard a Muslim orchestra?
Not personally, but I have seen it on TV.

QuoteHave you seen a Muslim band march on parade?
No. I haven't seen any Christian, Jew or Buddhist band march on parade either. I have seen many times bands march on parade, but I never asked any of the members what was their religion, so I cannot say if there were any Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs or Christians in them, although Christians are highly likely to be there, as Portugal is a Christian country and many of the bands I have seen marching were doing it on a Christian event, although the bands themselves are not directly connected to the Church.

QuoteHave you ever seen any Muslim charity?
Not personally.

QuoteHave you ever seen any Muslim infrastructure other than a Mosque or a Muslim only school?
Not that I remember, but I haven't seen any Muslim school either, the only structure I have seen is the Lisbon Mosque.

QuoteHave you shaken hands with a Muslim girl scout?
What a stupid question.  ::)

No, I haven't, as I haven't shaken hands with any girl or boy scout.

As an aside, in Portugal there are two different groups of boy (and girl, both groups have boys and girls) scouts, one connected to the Catholic Church, the other not connected with it.

QuoteHave you seen a Muslim Candy Stripper?
Another thing I had to search for, as I didn't have the slightest idea of what that was.
Now that I know, I can tell you that I do not know if I have seen one or not, as I do not ask people about their religion, specially people I do not know.

To me, nothing of this is a good point, it's just a list of things done by some ignorant or bad intentioned person.

The Seeker

#121
QuoteTo me, nothing of this is a good point, it's just a list of things done by some ignorant or bad intentioned person.

Armap, that is where you being from another country and culture comes in to play:Thar entire list of things is normal and accepted behavior for Americans because we generally work together and help each other...

In America, for the most part, we are caring and sharing people, when a hurricane hits, or a tornado, we give to those in need, volunteer our time and services to help salvage belongings or clear wreckage and debris, help cook or distribute food to the hungry,donate our time and money to help those in need because it is the right thing to do

I have a neighbor that is 80 years old and about to have major shoulder surgery; I have already volunteered to help with his yardwork until he recovers; because that is the right thing to do; another neighbor just recently helped him repair a wooden fence around his backyard, because it is the right thing to do, for free, with a smile and a handshake...

I see a woman with a car full of kids on the side of the road with a flat tire, I will stop and offer to help her change her tire and get her on her way once more, because it is the right thing to do, and no act of kindness goes un-rewarded in the end...

The issue most of us have with Islam in general is that instead of coming over here to live and enjoy life in our world, they want to change it into the pissed up world they just left because it was pissed up to begin with; this is my country, leave it alone or go back where you came from...


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ArMaP

Quote from: The Seeker on April 19, 2019, 03:48:44 PM
In America, for the most part, we are caring and sharing people, when a hurricane hits, or a tornado, we give to those in need, volunteer our time and services to help salvage belongings or clear wreckage and debris, help cook or distribute food to the hungry,donate our time and money to help those in need because it is the right thing to do
And, from what I have seen, many people in the US think they are the only ones doing that, that people in other countries are not caring and sharing people that give to those in need and volunteer their time and services to help those in need.

I suppose that makes them feel better than the others.  ::)

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on April 19, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
And, from what I have seen, many people in the US think they are the only ones doing that, that people in other countries are not caring and sharing people that give to those in need and volunteer their time and services to help those in need.

Not at all... but most people tend to only focus on what is most relevant to them. before the internet most people didn't really care about much beyond their immediate vicinity. The evening news only touched on international news for about 5-10 minutes and then only stories that were big.

You CANNOT worry about the entire world That is one of the downsides to the net... you see the entire world's problems at your doorstep.

QuoteI suppose that makes them feel better than the others.  ::)

That is a silly statement...

What Seeker said is right on the money. When the USA was formed we had an open door for people that were oppressed and tired of their lifestyle to come her and start a NEW LIFE and make this a great country. Immigrants (my parents included) came with nothing but a suitcase of possesions landed in New York or Montreal in Canada...  they came with hopes to escape the old and start over from scratch

Today however we have hoardes of people both Nuslim and Mexicam, that have no interest in integration... The Mexicans are protesing for legal status but burning our flag and flying theirs One high school Mexican girl was even attacked by her own people for flying an Anerican flag.

This is not immigration... this is INVASION

So you may want those illegal migrants but we worked hard for our way of life and we are not ready to have America turn into a shit hole nation

I saw a TV show yesterday "Lucifer"  they filmed in LA  ... well even in that show the LA streets were filled with tents for these illegals... and we are supposed to just keep letting them in?

Mark my words Americans are pretty apathetic at the moment, but they are armed like never before (thanks to Obama's call for banning guns) There WILL come a breaking point when people WILL take to the streets and 'fix things" themselves

It is already happening at the southern boarder

ARMED MILITIA IS HOLDING ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO FOR BORDER PATROL


A militia group calling itself the United Constitutional Patriots is detaining illegals as they cross the New Mexico border.

The armed group stops the illegal migrants and holds them until U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) guards can intervene. They reportedly "arrested" about 200 illegal aliens this week and documented their efforts on YouTube, according to The New York Times.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/19/armed-militia-holding-illegals-border-patrol/

zorgon

Just as bad as many cities in Europe. How is this acceptable in your mind? WHY should we keep letting more and more in?

Even CHER changed her mind from supporting open borders to say THIS (agreeing with Trump now)



DOWNTOWN LA



ORANGE COUNTY



SILICON VALLEY SAN FRANSICO



ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on April 19, 2019, 07:08:47 PM
That is a silly statement...
Not from my point of view, I have seen many people (apparently) convinced that the US is the only country where people are willing to help other people.

QuoteWhat Seeker said is right on the money. When the USA was formed we had an open door for people that were oppressed and tired of their lifestyle to come her and start a NEW LIFE and make this a great country. Immigrants (my parents included) came with nothing but a suitcase of possesions landed in New York or Montreal in Canada...  they came with hopes to escape the old and start over from scratch

Today however we have hoardes of people both Nuslim and Mexicam, that have no interest in integration...
I agree that integration is the hardest part, but in the past integration was not immediate, that's we you got things like Chinatown and Little Italy (and Little Portugal), places where people from specific origins gathered because they felt better surrounded by other people from the same source.

QuoteThe Mexicans are protesing for legal status but burning our flag and flying theirs One high school Mexican girl was even attacked by her own people for flying an Anerican flag.

This is not immigration... this is INVASION
It's immigration in the 21st century, immigration of the Facebook generation, full of people that think they have rights that supersede other people's rights. You can see that this is more visible on immigrants coming from urban areas than those coming from rural areas, like most African immigrants. Although Mexico is a relatively poor country, it's a country where people have easy access to information, so they got their Facebook and Twiter influences and their share of "US culture bombing".

QuoteSo you may want those illegal migrants but we worked hard for our way of life and we are not ready to have America turn into a shit hole nation
I didn't say I want them, I just accept them. :)

QuoteMark my words Americans are pretty apathetic at the moment, but they are armed like never before (thanks to Obama's call for banning guns) There WILL come a breaking point when people WILL take to the streets and 'fix things" themselves
I don't see that happening in an relatively order manner, so if it happens it will most likely end badly for all the involved.

QuoteThe armed group stops the illegal migrants and holds them until U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) guards can intervene. They reportedly "arrested" about 200 illegal aliens this week and documented their efforts on YouTube, according to The New York Times.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/19/armed-militia-holding-illegals-border-patrol/
I hope it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if things scale from there to the point of people shooting immigrants to make things easier for them or because they are afraid of a larger group or whatever reason, and that will not help.

The Seeker

#126
QuoteI agree that integration is the hardest part, but in the past integration was not immediate, that's we you got things like Chinatown and Little Italy (and Little Portugal), places where people from specific origins gathered because they felt better surrounded by other people from the same source.

The difference was that places like China Town, Little Italy, et al, were ethnic communities but they acknowledged that they were in the US, proud to be in the US, agreed to play by our rule of law, and not immediately trying to subvert or corrupt the system.

As for it ending badly, probably so; I encounter a rape gang trying to gang bang some poor innocent woman or girl, they deserve what they get; rapists and pedophiles need to pay the maximum penalty

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WhatTheHey

#127
Quote from: zorgon on April 19, 2019, 07:14:10 PM
Even CHER changed her mind from supporting open borders to say THIS (agreeing with Trump now)

    Well it seems to be difficult to put up a pic up of Chers tweet.  The only links I found DO NOT show the whole tweet.  So I'm quoting it to you below with lack of spacing and everything as it is shown. There is a U.S.A. flag icon in her tweet. I show its place in parentheses.    Chers Tweet......

     "I understand helping struggling immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+ (a U.S. flag) Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can't Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More
11:33 AM - 15 Apr 2019"
WhatTheHey

ArMaP

Quote from: WhatTheHey on April 19, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
Well it seems to be difficult to put up a pic up of Chers tweet.
Here it is. :)


Irene

#129
ArMaP,

If I had the cash I would send you every illegal Mexican, et al, that crosses our southern border.

You'd change your tune in a heartbeat.

This is an invasion on the scale of war. It must be fought as such.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Irene

Quote from: ArMaP on April 19, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
And, from what I have seen, many people in the US think they are the only ones doing that, that people in other countries are not caring and sharing people that give to those in need and volunteer their time and services to help those in need.

I suppose that makes them feel better than the others.  ::)


Propaganda. We don't think that.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Irene

Yeah, Cher and Pelosi - "Let everybody in!"

"WAIT A MINUTE! NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!"

Hypocrites.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

ArMaP

Quote from: Irene on April 20, 2019, 02:38:40 AM
Propaganda. We don't think that.
It's not propaganda, I'm talking about what I have seen people saying and writing on the Internet in all the years I have been using it (almost 23 years), directly from the persons' mouth/keyboard.

ArMaP

Quote from: Irene on April 20, 2019, 02:34:19 AM
ArMaP,

If I had the cash I would send you every illegal Mexican, et al, that crosses our southern border.

You'd change your tune in a heartbeat.
What "tune"? What do you think I would change in my opinion?

ArMaP

#134
Quote from: Irene on April 20, 2019, 02:41:20 AM
Hypocrites.
Or ignorant of what they were talking about in the beginning.