Back lash against migrant begins...

[Irene]

Propaganda. We don't think that.

You may not think that, but that's what it is.

[Irene]

Or ignorant of what they were talking about in the beginning.

Shit. I accidentally edited your post, ArMaP. My apologies. I hit the wrong damn button.

These politicians and celebrities are not ignorant of the facts. They are two-faced people in positions of power who are trying to knuckle us into adopting their way of thinking. They espouse leftist views because they seek the power that will come with illegal immigration. Illegal immigration means Dem votes, which advances their agenda.

BUT, they know having the Third World horde in their backyard will drive down property values. God forbid they extend their idealogical generosity to sharing their backyards with tent people who don't speak a lick of English and have no interest in truly becoming citizens of the country they're invading.

"Do as I say, not as I do" is the motto of people like Cher and Pelosi. They should put their money where their mouth is and use their millions to support the illegals who are already here and sucking up government resources like Medicaid, food stamps, et al.

I pay thousands in taxes. I'm not interested in supporting illegal aliens. I want our veterans and our elderly taken care of first, not some guy who crosses to pick crops and sends nine out of ten dollars back to Mexico and is getting free health care, food, and other services without having to surrender a dime to the US Treasury.

Not to mention the other ethnicities who come across our border to infiltrate our populace for nefarious purposes.

ArMaP, I don't claim to know what's going on in Portugal. I don't know. Please don't presume to know what's going on in the United States. You don't live here.

[zorgon]

Yeah, Cher and Pelosi - "Let everybody in!"

"WAIT A MINUTE! NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!"

Hypocrites.

And yet they supposedly created those snactuary cities just for that reason

Well THIS is the result



That is Orange County LA  This happened in a few short years and add other 500,000 to this?

Pelosi wants those illegals in "OUR" cities  so they can destroy our way of life....

These tent cities for migrants are spring up all over Europe and many US cities already. YES they DO include the 'regular' homeless as well. That tens to happen because they all congregate

ArMaP  Consider yourself lucky that portugal is poor and you don't have the invasion yet. I am willing to bet you would sing a different tune if you did



PS (for ArMaP )  Definition of sing a different tune. informal. : to change the way one talks about something : to have a different opinion about something They say they're not worried about money, but once they see how much the new equipment will cost, they'll be singing a different tune.

[ArMaP]

You may not think that, but that's what it is.

How is it propaganda when it's my opinion based on what I have seen people say? That's the same thing as saying that my opinion on what you write here is propaganda.

[ArMaP]

Shit. I accidentally edited your post, ArMaP. My apologies. I hit the wrong damn button.

No problems, it happens.

These politicians and celebrities are not ignorant of the facts.

I wouldn't be so sure, as I think many (if not most) of them live in a world of their own, getting information indirectly, through other people, so they are easy to manipulate.

ArMaP, I don't claim to know what's going on in Portugal. I don't know. Please don't presume to know what's going on in the United States. You don't live here.

Where did I presume to know any thing about what's going on in the US?

[ArMaP]

These tent cities for migrants are spring up all over Europe and many US cities already. YES they DO include the 'regular' homeless as well. That tens to happen because they all congregate

Could you post some examples from Europe?

PS (for ArMaP )  Definition of sing a different tune. informal. : to change the way one talks about something : to have a different opinion about something They say they're not worried about money, but once they see how much the new equipment will cost, they'll be singing a different tune.

I know what it means, I just wanted to know what Irene thinks I would change in my opinion.

[zorgon]

Could you post some examples from Europe?

Sure happy to oblige

I know what it means, I just wanted to know what Irene thinks I would change in my opinion.

Just taking precautions

[zorgon]

GREECE

Greece's Biggest Migrant Camp Is a Mental Health Crisis, Aid Groups Say
Refugees and migrants at the Moria refugee camp in Lesbos, Greece, last month. It has 8,500 residents but the capacity for only 3,100, an aid group's report said.


Refugees and migrants at the Moria refugee camp in Lesbos, Greece, last month. It has 8,500 residents but the capacity for only 3,100, an aid group's report said.CreditCreditAris Messinis/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
By Niki Kitsantonis

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/world/europe/greece-migrant-camp-mental-health.html





Inside Moria: Euronews takes you around Greece's biggest refugee camp
Moria, Greece's largest refugee camp, has been criticised for being overcrowded and unfit for humans.

More than 8,000 migrants — waiting for their asylum claims to be heard — live at the 3,000- people capacity former military base on Lesbos.

Now, with winter fast approaching, Euronews' Apostolos Staikos has visited the camp to see what life is like on the inside.

You can watch his full report in the video player, above, or take a look below at what else he captured:

[zorgon]

PARIS , FRANCE

Tent cities rise in Paris after 'Jungle' evacuation
With the closing of the Calais camp, the French capital is seeing more asylum seekers pitching tents on the streets.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/tent-cities-rise-paris-jungle-evacuation-161030074232527.html





Paris police dismantle tent camp where 2,100 migrants were living in squalid conditions


City workers remove tents and mattresses from an evacuated makeshift migrant camp near the metro stations of Jaures and Stalingrad in Paris, France, on September 16, 2016. Credit: Benoit Tessier/Reuters


City workers remove tents and mattresses from an evacuated makeshift migrant camp near the metro stations of Jaures and Stalingrad in Paris, France, on September 16, 2016. Credit: Benoit Tessier/Reuters

At least France is trying to clean it up from main tourist areas  The Calais Tunnel crossing was a huge camp... migrants attacking and blocking trucks on the way to the UK So they tore down that camp finally but the migrants just go elsewhere

More migrants pitch tents on Paris streets as Calais camp shuts



https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/more-migrants-pitch-tents-on-paris-streets-as-calais-camp-shuts

France tells migrants to forget Calais as 'Jungle' camp razed
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/france-tells-migrants-to-forget-calais-as-jungle-camp-razed

Clearance of Calais Jungle camp accomplished, French prefect says
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/clearance-of-calais-jungle-camp-accomplished-french-prefect-says





France prepares to remove thousands of migrants from streets of Paris as numbers grow after Calais 'Jungle' demolition
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/30/france-prepares-to-remove-thousands-of-migrants-from-streets-of/


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/17/paris-heading-migrant-tragedy-warn-charities-two-drownings-stabbing/

Officials at odds over fate of 2,500 sleeping rough in rat-infested camps



Paris migrant crisis could spiral out of control, warn charities after two drownings and a stabbing

[ArMaP]

A Migrant Camp is not a tent city, is it?

As for those images from France, they are from 2016, do you have images from this year?

[zorgon]

GERMANY

Migrant crisis: German town 'running out of room'
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-34286682/migrant-crisis-german-town-running-out-of-room

Tents and containers made into houses by the governmeny



Is fear of change at the root of Europe's anti-immigrant backlash?
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2016/09/14/is-fear-of-change-at-the-root-of-europes-anti-immigrant-backlash/


Shattered: The migrants who dreamed of a new life in a welcoming Germany have found themselves greeted by protests and even violence in some towns, like Freital. Here, the arrival of 400 people to a migrant reception centre in nearby Dresden was met with anger from locals

The frontline of Germany's migrant crisis: Inside the small town where Nazi hate mobs hold violent protests and threaten to burn down refugee centres

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3351335/We-burn-hostel-Poster-town-Germany-s-migrant-crisis-Nazi-hate-mob-vigilante-attacks-driving-drug-taking-refugees-dream-new-life-UK.html
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Violence: Drunk neo-Nazis clashed with police near Dresden hours after a mysterious fire destroyed a shelter for asylum seekers entering Germany in Tal, in Baden-Wuerttemberg state, five hours south west of Freital

Migrant crisis: 1 injured as shots fired at migrant centre in German town of Dreieich


German armed forces soldiers set up tents and beds for refugees in a hangar of the former Tempelhof airport in Berlin Hannibal Hanschke/Reuters

In the last year more than one million refugees have reached Germany, mostly fleeing the conflict in Syria. Although many Germans have welcomed the migrants, there have been a number of arson attacks on centres and demonstrations by anti-Islam group Pegida which is alarmed at what they see as the Islamisation of Europe.

Chancellor Angela Merkel is coming under increasing pressure over her support for the wave of immigrants, which has seen the largest movement of people in Europe since World War II and led to suggestions the Schengen zone may be doomed.

Suggestions that at least one of those involved in the Paris attacks entered Europe posing as a refugee have also fuelled concern across the continent.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/migrant-crisis-1-injured-shots-fired-migrant-centre-german-town-dreieich-1535990

[zorgon]

A Migrant Camp is not a tent city, is it?

Yes it is...  homeless and or migrants living in large groups in tents is what is called a TENT CITY

As for those images from France, they are from 2016, do you have images from this year?

The internet is full of  them... how many do you need to realize it is a major problem?

Is March 2019 good enough for you Mr Ostrich? Notice the article SPECIFICALLY says 'tent city'

Rory Mulholland (@mulhollandrory) 28 March 2019 ... The 'tent city' huddles under Paris' busy inner ring road, largely invisible to the many ...

'Chaos at the gates of Paris': Inside the sprawling migrant camps nobody talks about


https://www.thelocal.fr/20190329/out-of-sight-but-still-there-the-scandal-of-squalid-paris-migrant-camps

April 2018

Paris calls for urgent help to house city's 2,000 canal migrants
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180406/paris-calls-for-help-to-house-thousands-of-canal-migrants

[zorgon]

TEXAS USA

(just because I came across it now )

Inside the Texas Tent City Housing More Than 1,000 Migrant Teens

Pretty spiffy looking



https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-texas-tent-city-housing-more-than-1-000-migrant-teens-1539382332

[zorgon]

No it's not Glastonbury, it's a refugee camp in Greece: Staggering aerial photos show huge tent city on Macedonian border - where desperate migrants hold babies to razor wire in bid to get across


These aerial photographs show the scores of tents which have sprung up at a makeshift migrant camp in the northern Greek village of Idomeni, near the Macedonian border, where thousands of refugees have set up a base as they wait to try and cross into Macedonia

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3475652/No-s-not-Glastonbury-Aerial-photos-huge-tent-city-migrant-camp-Greece.html


Refugees and migrants (left) block the railway track in front of Greek police cordon as others (right) wait in queue to receive food distributed by non-governmental organisation at a refugee camp at the Greek-Macedonian border, near the Greek village of Idomeni


Macedonian authorities have now set up a 19-mile barbed wire boundary, with parallel lines of 8ft fencing keeping thousands of migrants trapped in Greece. Only a narrow passage has been left in a bid to control migration flow, with controls growing increasingly stringent

[zorgon]

Paris migrant camp to be evicted on French government orders

France's interior minister has ordered Paris forcibly evacuate migrant camps that have sprung up along its canals. The move is emblematic of France's tough new approach to migrants.


The French Interior Ministry on Monday pledged to evict about 2,300 migrants camped next to popular Parisian canals.

The contentious decision has highlighted the problem of how European nations are managing the continuing migrant influx.

For several months migrants have been settling on the banks of two canals in the northeast of Paris. Aid organizations have sounded the alarm about the living conditions there after two migrants drowned and others were injured in fights.


Macron vows no return of Calais migrant camp

https://www.dw.com/en/paris-migrant-camp-to-be-evicted-on-french-government-orders/a-43895633