Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[undo11]

^that's what he described.

[Littleenki]

What is a BLACK HOLE?
Who invented such garbage?
hobbit

Ive never seen a black hole, have you?
How do we know they are holes, anyhow?
Maybe they are just places in space where light doesnt occur.
Hmmmm
LE

[Captain Dave]

Black holes and god are invented .
That was a whirlpool.
hobbit

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invent
The FreeDictionary.com defines Invent as:

in·vent (n-vnt)
tr.v. in·vent·ed, in·vent·ing, in·vents
1. To produce or contrive (something previously unknown) by the use of ingenuity or imagination.
2. To make up; fabricate: invent a likely excuse.

So I agree to some extent... It's all "imagination".

Yep, that was a Whirlpool. (Cousin to the Black Hole)

My guess is that God created Whirlpools to help us better understand Black holes. Kind of like a grade school lesson for curious beings? I also think Whirlpools, (at least in part), are caused by Black holes... sort of an off-shoot or result of.

Though in a different sense, I believe Black holes are just a more "amplified" Whirlpool.

[undo11]

Ive never seen a black hole, have you?
How do we know they are holes, anyhow?
Maybe they are just places in space where light doesnt occur.
Hmmmm
LE

physics.
here's an example:


those are the stars circling the super massive black hole at the center of the milky way galaxy.  every galaxy has its own super massive black hole. did you watch the google video i posted, of how they figured this out?
it's here and it's worth it

[hobbit]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invent
The FreeDictionary.com defines Invent as:
So I agree to some extent... It's all "imagination".

Yep, that was a Whirlpool. (Cousin to the Black Hole)

My guess is that God created Whirlpools to help us better understand Black holes. Kind of like a grade school lesson for curious beings? I also think Whirlpools, (at least in part), are caused by Black holes... sort of an off-shoot or result of.

Nobody has ever seen or has any idea about something that is an imaginary invention.
I am not about to start debating about such, as many people are believers.
They believe what they have been indoctrinated with.
They believe the bible fact like.


If there were a flood, either the land mass re-locates lower that the normal water level or the water level re-locates above the land mass.

If the land mass re-locates towards the centre of the planet, then the fluid water about and around the lowered land mass will flood such an area.

I would suspect local land mass re-location rather than a global raise in water levels.
hobbit

[undo11]

Nobody has ever seen or has any idea about something that is an imaginary invention.
I am not about to start debating about such, as many people are believers.
They believe what they have been indoctrinated with.
They believe the bible fact like.


If there were a flood, either the land mass re-locates lower that the normal water level or the water level re-locates above the land mass.

If the land mass re-locates towards the centre of the planet, then the fluid water about and around the lowered land mass will flood such an area.

I would suspect local land mass re-location rather than a global raise in water levels.
hobbit

the problem here is, you have been indoctrinated in the exact opposite pole. there's actually a happy middle, where we take the ancient texts (not just the bible) and consider they might have valuable information in them to some degree or another, and not just for determining how the ancient people lived, but if anything else was happening at the time, that today, we can explain with science.  ever tried it?

[hobbit]

physics.
here's an example:


those are the stars circling the super massive black hole at the center of the milky way galaxy.  every galaxy has its own super massive black hole. did you watch the google video i posted, of how they figured this out?
it's here and it's worth it

With respect,
You are listening to fiction...assumption presented in a fact like manner.
You may as well post links to daffy duck.
IMHO, there is NO FORCE prently called GRAVITY.
They don't have a clue...period.
hobbit

[hobbit]

the problem here is, you have been indoctrinated in the exact opposite pole. there's actually a happy middle, where we take the ancient texts (not just the bible) and consider they might have valuable information in them to some degree or another, and not just for determining how the ancient people lived, but if anything else was happening at the time, that today, we can explain with science.  ever tried it?

"WE can explain with science"
Thanks for the humour.
Present science is the latest religion.
It is a belief system with it's rules(laws)
Thankfully hobbits avoided any such programming.
I observe nature, and evaluate what I detect using more senses than the average bear( yogi bear talk)

You are buying into this religion( control )
They have invented a huge vocabulary of fictional terms, and present them in a fact like manner until these descriptive fictions are accepted as facts.

Dyslexia has been My saviour.

hobbit 

[Littleenki]

"WE can explain with science"
Thanks for the humour.
Present science is the latest religion.
It is a belief system with it's rules(laws)
Thankfully hobbits avoided any such programming.
I observe nature, and evaluate what I detect using more senses than the average bear( yogi bear talk)

You are buying into this religion( control )
They have invented a huge vocabulary of fictional terms, and present them in a fact like manner until these descriptive fictions are accepted as facts.

Dyslexia has been My saviour.

hobbit

I hope someday to speak scientist, as I certainly dont know the math part....
No gravity in a black hole either, just differing levels of implosion versus emittance, the rules of the universe. And why cant light occur in a black hole? Because everything is reduced to a spaghetti string, and waves and fields cant get their poop together in there, so they wait to be released as energy, when the black hole begins expelling matter again. If it ever does.....
And as a dyslexic, let me offer this word of advice for you Hobbit
eloh kcalb a otni llaf tnod, suoregnad er'yeht luferac eb.
Cheers!
Littleenki

[Captain Dave]

Nobody has ever seen or has any idea about something that is an imaginary invention.
I am not about to start debating about such, as many people are believers.
They believe what they have been indoctrinated with.
They believe the bible fact like.


If there were a flood, either the land mass re-locates lower that the normal water level or the water level re-locates above the land mass.

If the land mass re-locates towards the centre of the planet, then the fluid water about and around the lowered land mass will flood such an area.

I would suspect local land mass re-location rather than a global raise in water levels.
hobbit

Sure, but If I took say 1/3 of Earths water and froze it into two big Ice Cubes. Then placed both of them on land masses in an area that was nice and cool. While they remain frozen, the sea level wouldn't rise, but if I melt them, then it would right?.

Over time the Earth would also act as a type of sponge as well, absorbing water into the soil etc and expanding as the water was reintroduced in non frozen form. Much of it also evaporating and entering the upper atmosphere to fall periodically in the form of rain.

Now if I displace water in the Ocean by throwing in a big chunk of rock, the sea level would temporarily go up directly proportionate to the size of the rock. Just like throwing a pebble into a still pond, waves would go out in all directions.

However, if I threw the rock in at an angle, larger waves would be created, flowing in the direction of greater force applied. These waves of greater force eventually impact specific area's and flow over the land. The immediate displacement of water caused by the object being dropped into the Ocean however would go out in all directions causing temporary flooding just about everywhere. Well, much of it would depend on the size of the chunk of rock and the speed at which it was thrown.

[hobbit]

Sure, but If I took say 1/3 of Earths water and froze it into two big Ice Cubes. Then placed both of them on land masses in an area that was nice and cool. While they remain frozen, the sea level wouldn't rise, but if I melt them, then it would right?.

Over time the Earth would also act as a type of sponge as well, absorbing water into the soil etc and expanding as the water was reintroduced in non frozen form. Much of it also evaporating and entering the upper atmosphere to fall periodically in the form of rain.

Now if I displace water in the Ocean by throwing in a big chunk of rock, the sea level would temporarily go up directly proportionate to the size of the rock. Just like throwing a pebble into a still pond, waves would go out in all directions.

However, if I threw the rock in at an angle, larger waves would be created, flowing in the direction of greater force applied. These waves of greater force eventually impact specific area's and flow over the land. The immediate displacement of water caused by the object being dropped into the Ocean however would go out in all directions causing temporary flooding just about everywhere. Well, much of it would depend on the size of the chunk of rock and the speed at which it was thrown.

You disply typical materialistic thinking.
To You a rock is a rock.
To me it's a local compression of memory.
hobbit, entering a black hole, bye.

[Somamech]

With respect,
You are listening to fiction...assumption presented in a fact like manner.
You may as well post links to daffy duck.
IMHO, there is NO FORCE prently called GRAVITY.
They don't have a clue...period.
hobbit

I could post links to people who know what you explain in a much better fashion that are not on this message board...  and who also learnt from someone who has been studied by the US Navy. Try to be nice 

[undo11]

wait, are we talking about the holographic universe?

[hobbit]

I could post links to people who know what you explain in a much better fashion that are not on this message board...  and who also learnt from someone who has been studied by the US Navy. Try to be nice 

I assure that I am been "NICE"
I fully realise though how I will grate upon the programming most people have been so expertly subjected to.
So I know when to exit stage left.
I do not have any wordsmith skills, so explaining isn't My path.
hobbit

[burntheships]

The one who has realized all, or the child still learning.

Funny thing everytime I think I have come to a place
where I have learned so much, I realize just how much
I have to learn.