Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[undo11]

Undo11,
have You got it in for me?


Before a flood of complaints pours down upon us , perhaps We should return to the threads OP?
I hate to be boring, but.....why do the clouds form in the sky?
Why does the rain fall?

What is the method that enables this?
What alteration could occur to create either a sudden rise in water levels or lowering of land mass?


Unless You know how this system operates , You will never be able to determine if such an occurance happened.
You will never have so called free energy because You will remain blind to the supply force that enables all so called energy to exist.

hobbit

nooo, i don't have it "in for you."
here, listen to gandalf!  what's he saying? (read the words of his song)


what's the "door where it began?"

[undo11]

Forbidden archeology ?Noah's Ark Found hidden conspiracy.flv

i saw that years ago.  many arguments for and against that.
what i thought was interesting was the location the ark supposedly came to rest, in the sumerian-akkadian version.  it wasn't ararat, but it was nearby ararat. i theorized that perhaps the whole mountain range was called by the name in the sumerian-akkadian version. whereas the biblical version was more precise. or vice-a-versa.  if it's vice-a-versa, they 've been looking in the wrong place for 2 thousand years. lol

[undo11]

you should ask zorg to chime in his two cents on this topic.  seems i recall him saying or suggesting that noah's ark wasn't a wooden ship at all. his version was more like a space flight capable zoo, that left one planet during that planet's flood catastrophe and came here.  i don't recall if he said he got that version from the tibetan monks or similar.

[Captain Dave]

Large impact crater at the Top of South America...?



Large impact crater at the Southern Tip of South America...?

Because the Earth rotates on it's axis in an Easterly direction, and both of these impacts show that the objects came in and hit, moving in an Easterly direction, it would account for an increase in Earth's rotational speed & therefore an increase in gravity?

So the asteroids sped up the Earth just like a top?


side note...
( Sooo, if we wanted to speed up or slow down the planet, we could create a fast moving object ( one skimming on the surface of the water or in the air ) and then direct it down to impact the planet surface. We would then be able to increase/decrease gravity? )

[The Matrix Traveller]

Because the Earth rotates on it's axis in an Easterly direction, and both of these impacts show that the objects came in and hit moving in an Easterly direction, it would account for an increase in Earth's rotational speed & therefore an increase in gravity.

So the asteroids sped up the Earth just like a top.

Interesting theory; Can you please supply the math. Captain Dave.

[Captain Dave]

Interesting theory; Can you please supply the math. Captain Dave.

Haha, noooo... I'm no mathematician... Just a crude theory. Well, I might be able to, but I'm really more of an idea kinda guy, and to me math just isn't fun.   

I suppose if it ever became so important that we Had to do it in order to save the planet... I'd find a calculator somewhere.

[undo11]

Haha, noooo... I'm no mathematician... Just a crude theory. Well, I might be able to, but I'm really more of an idea kinda guy, and to me math just isn't fun.   

i hear ya.  math is fun as long as it's easy.  when it starts getting pages long for one equation, that's when it's not so fun anymore.

[Littleenki]

i hear ya.  math is fun as long as it's easy.  when it starts getting pages long for one equation, that's when it's not so fun anymore.

ouch, you guys are right, math is a bitch! But necessary, so best advice is to marry a mathematician! Or buy one of those nifty TI calculators!
LE

[Captain Dave]

i hear ya.  math is fun as long as it's easy.  when it starts getting pages long for one equation, that's when it's not so fun anymore.

Plus there would be sooooo many variables to take into consideration. I'd rather go fishing.

Though I suppose if it were done on another planet, we could match Earth's gravity. Would be nice if we had machines located near North and South poles... Put in a "rail" type track or tube in a circle with  weighted objects that you can slam the breaks on...

Would give some control over a gradual increase or decrease in the planets rotational speed, so wouldn't be such a violent major event. ( like an Asteroid impact!  )

[Captain Dave]

Large impact crater at the Top of South America...?


Here it looks like you can see where the plate was fractured from the impact... - creating a fault line...

[undo11]

Plus there would be sooooo many variables to take into consideration. I'd rather go fishing.

Though I suppose if it were done on another planet, we could match Earth's gravity. Would be nice if we had machines located near North and South poles... Put in a "rail" type track or tube in a circle with  weighted objects that you can slam the breaks on...

Would give some control over a gradual increase or decrease in the planets rotational speed, so wouldn't be such a violent major event. ( like an Asteroid impact!  )

hubby says we need ziplines everywhere.  ZEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewhooshhhhhhhh....

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi Captain Dave,

Nope... "Trenches" NOT caused by Impacts.

What you have shown is well known and part of "The Ring of Fire".

In the Lower part, is known as the "Middle America Trench" NOT a fault.
Faults exist around and associated with this trench. Part of "The Ring of Fire"
encircling the  "Pacific Ocean".

This is where the "Pacific Plate" interacts with "American Continental Shelf".

The upper region you have shown again is a Trench called the "Aleutian Trench",
also a part of "The Ring of Fire", where the "Pacific Plate" interacts with its adjacent
Plate also part of the "Continental  Shelf".

These are "Tectonic Components" of the Earth involving other Mechanics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ring_of_Fire

http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/PlateTectonics/Maps/map_plate_tectonics_world.html

http://www.kamchatkapeninsula.com/ringoffire.html

Regarding "Impact  Craters"; they cover much of  the Earths surface, according to geologists.

http://www.passc.net/EarthImpactDatabase/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/impactcraters/all/1

ADDED....

Part of "The Japan Trench", also part of The Ring of Fire.

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://alterman47.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/japantrench1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alterman47.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/a-point-of-elemental-water-at-the-japan-trench/&h=600&w=630&sz=41&tbnid=DtS65lRo8JgRwM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=95&prev=/search%3Fq%3DThe%2BJapan%2BTrench%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=The+Japan+Trench&docid=2BtQtuv8S8YplM&sa=X&ei=_7OPT7nGNZGQiAeBkZjwAw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBQ&dur=21

[Captain Dave]

Hi Captain Dave,

Nope... "Trenches" NOT caused by Impacts.

What you have shown is well known and part of "The Ring of Fire".

In the Lower part, is known as the "Middle America Trench" NOT a fault.
Faults exist around and associated with this trench. Part of "The Ring of Fire"
encircling the  "Pacific Ocean".

This is where the "Pacific Plate" interacts with "American Continental Shelf".

The upper region you have shown again is a Trench called the "Aleutian Trench",
also a part of "The Ring of Fire", where the "Pacific Plate" interacts with its adjacent
Plate also part of the "Continental  Shelf".

These are "Tectonic Components" of the Earth involving other Mechanics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ring_of_Fire

http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/PlateTectonics/Maps/map_plate_tectonics_world.html

http://www.kamchatkapeninsula.com/ringoffire.html

Regarding "Impact  Craters"; they cover much of  the Earths surface, according to geologists.

http://www.passc.net/EarthImpactDatabase/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_impact_craters_on_Earth

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/impactcraters/all/1

ADDED....

Part of "The Japan Trench", also part of The Ring of Fire.

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://alterman47.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/japantrench1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alterman47.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/a-point-of-elemental-water-at-the-japan-trench/&h=600&w=630&sz=41&tbnid=DtS65lRo8JgRwM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=95&prev=/search%3Fq%3DThe%2BJapan%2BTrench%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=The+Japan+Trench&docid=2BtQtuv8S8YplM&sa=X&ei=_7OPT7nGNZGQiAeBkZjwAw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBQ&dur=21

Whell, I can't be right ALLLL the time.   

[The Matrix Traveller]

Good Try though Captain Dave... 

It sounded convincing...

The Impact Zone still looked interesting... 

[hobbit]

Because the Earth rotates on it's axis in an Easterly direction, and both of these impacts show that the objects came in and hit, moving in an Easterly direction, it would account for an increase in Earth's rotational speed & therefore an increase in gravity?

So the asteroids sped up the Earth just like a top?


side note...
( Sooo, if we wanted to speed up or slow down the planet, we could create a fast moving object ( one skimming on the surface of the water or in the air ) and then direct it down to impact the planet surface. We would then be able to increase/decrease gravity? )

The illusion is of a spinning planet, and because the cause of this illusion is acting in scalar fashion out into universe , this is what We BELIEVE.
THE EARTH IS FIXED.
The flows of TIME...tempus fugit are that which causes the illusion and the SWITCHING RATE.
The flows are toroidal heart centred at all scale.
The planet is alive, it is remembering to be as it is relative to the orchestra like inputs and outputs which respond to the variations in flow rates relative to the complexity of galaxy.

No-thing moves.....TIME enables re-location.


hobbit