A Reply From Bob Lazar!

[A51Watcher]

So I looked up Cory Goode and his name has no relevance to this discussion.

He has no information relating to briefing documents at S4.

Functioning Flying Saucers recovered from archaeological sites dated to 10,000 years old gives a new meaning to ancient aliens.


Those craft must have a lifetime warranty. 

[zorgon]

Those craft must have a lifetime warranty. 

Then WHY do so many CRASH these days?

[A51Watcher]

Then WHY do so many CRASH these days?

I don't think that many do crash these days.

Now man made ones that's a different story.

[astr0144]

There have beeen a few quite detailed discussions about the radiation effects that may have effected Papoose lake...

in one we tried to establish from various sources found online as to how various Nukes that occurred around NTS / Around or close to Area 51.. as to how they may have radiated land at or close to Papoose..

and if I recall .... it was not really greatly clear to suggest that Papoose Lake area would have remained a real radiation threat.. at least when radiation effects from Bombs etc that were tested may had only been severe within maybe a 2 mile radius...

As far as I am aware ... No Nukes were actually claimed to have been detonated at Papoose...

but it has been claimed in the past when winds blow in its or certain directions that places at various distances have been effected to some degree.... such as St Georges town / city for eg that has had a history of Radiation effects on its Population from the nukes that took place back when they did the main testing period at the NTS..

but just how long and how bad it lasted... I am unsure... so for eg if we get winds today that carry dust particles from the NTS to St Georges or any other locations....  Is it still a thread today ?

OR if the wind blows to Area 51 Groom Lake  or Papoose .... how is that likely to effect any one today or back when Jerry was in that area..


Its suggested that certain radiations will last years and no doubt radiated dust must be all over Parts of Nevada...

but are people still being effected today... when some radiation may be still thought of being VERY long lasting and still of a certain strength...

Have persons who visit that area now become contaminated..

Just how much is one likely to be effeced if they were at Papoose or on Groom Lake Rd or nearby HW 375 ?


http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3145.0

The May 1989 Scientific American Magazine talks about the island of stability being at E114 yet another coincidence. and I can go on and on and on. Jerry Freeman walks rightonto Papoose Lake takes photos and behind him should be the S4 facility and there is nothing at all probably do to the plutonium contamination that are monitored with Alpha Probes and another coincidence Bob rebuilt Alpha Probes for the test site . Why would such a talented Physicist be building Alpha Probes with John Lear ? Something anyone could do.

Let's take a look at "Project 57" Papoose Lake and see the contamination and just how dangerous it was to be at Papoose lake I think Jerry Freeman found out it lead to his early death.

Please read:

http://www.area51specialprojects.com/area51timeline.html?iact=rc&uact=3&dur=296&page=1&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=0ahUKEwj1oMirj-XJAhUGcQ8KHSmLCGUQrQMIITAB

[astr0144]

I found 3 different maps when doing a search for Jerry Freeman...

one suggests that he walked along the western side of Papoose lake and may have been within a mile from S4 if it exists... that would have been across the dry lake bed on the eastern side..

Other maps suggest that Jerry only reached the South side of papoose lake..

So I m not sure that we have a clear or certain fact on where he actually visited..

Two maps are from Alien scientist...





http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nv9fe0&s=5#.XOmSYbhMCt8




http://www.alienscientist.com/images/49erspath.jpg




http://www.alienscientist.com/images/nye3.png

[bigpappy51]

Area51Watcher stated "Seemingly doesn't make sense to us primitives however the amplifier in my room is always at a 100% and only gains volume when I boost the preamp gain."

You a guitar player? If so I am to and can totally relate to what you just said from a guitar amp point of view.
Also I want to make something clear I did not notice your new videos before commenting how I missed those I don't know.
Whatever you are filming are using a tripod ?

Did you add the mountains in the background ?

can you please post the raw footage sound and all?

I remember your videos when they were on YouTube I must say if that's not you bouncing the camera around what possibly could fly something around like that so close to the mountain range its all over the place at incredible speeds. Now don't take this the wrong way but how do we know this is not sometype of Holographic projection technology ?

I just can't imagine for a second that whatever that is if its a real craft is in control its rather amazing how it darts all over the place . I cant imagine being there that's completely insane .

Also best estimate how far away were you from whatever it is you are filming A51Watcher ?

[A51Watcher]

Area51Watcher stated "Seemingly doesn't make sense to us primitives however the amplifier in my room is always at a 100% and only gains volume when I boost the preamp gain."

You a guitar player? If so I am to and can totally relate to what you just said from a guitar amp point of view.

Yeah I always wanted to play like Hendrix but only managed to master playing like Gilmour.

Also I want to make something clear I did not notice your new videos before commenting how I missed those I don't know.
Whatever you are filming are using a tripod ?

No I was using the top of the car to steady the cam and sometimes a boulder. That's why occasionally you see you the process that detects and eliminates camera movement flash white lines on the sides or top of the screen. That means it has detected movement in that direction and is correcting it. As you can see the movement it detected is very occasional and nowhere near enough to cause all the movement we see.   

Did you add the mountains in the background ?

Yes, I answered you that question in a previous post.

can you please post the raw footage sound and all?

Here's a comparison video of my footage and Bob's -



I remember your videos when they were on YouTube I must say if that's not you bouncing the camera around what possibly could fly something around like that so close to the mountain range its all over the place at incredible speeds. Now don't take this the wrong way but how do we know this is not sometype of Holographic projection technology ?

Because they moved around behind hills that I could still see and also landed on the ground within a 1/4 mile of me.

I just can't imagine for a second that whatever that is if its a real craft is in control its rather amazing how it darts all over the place . I cant imagine being there that's completely insane .

Also best estimate how far away were you from whatever it is you are filming A51Watcher ?

Google earth measures the distance to be 6 miles from me where they congregated most of the time before starting new maneuvers. In the video where you can see the cammo dude driving past me and then the craft in the sky above him, we put that image in a CAD program which calculated the distance of the craft to be 2000 ft from me at that point.

[bigpappy51]

Thanks for your reply you have some amazing video footage there. Whatever was going on at Area 51 it must had been over you don't see anything like this in any videos these days. Norio Hayakawa has a video that blew my mind as well he has the camera on a TriPod and the craft goes straight up and down very fast and continuously is moving to the right I can probably find it on his page.

As far as guitar yes Gilmour is certainly one of my favorites the old less is more theory you know Malmsteen vs Gilmour.. Less is more Gilmour can make a person feel very emotional as where Malmsteen you don't feel that emotional trip.

Post some more videos if you could sometime.

[astr0144]

I would need to do a recap to remind myself  on some of the description for how the reactor in the craft was suggested to work.

I think I recall that the E115 Triangle sample was said to have been placed in the reactor... but I cannot recall if somehow a particle of some sort maybe a proton, neutron or electron  is then fired from some source in the reactor set up components assemby what ever exactly that description was.... I recall we learned about where the E115 sample was placed and the sphrical part that covered it or enclosed the sample.....to then I think its suggested that somehow a particle was sent to hit the sample that changed its state maybe into E116 that then created an unstable  reaction....


When Element 115 is bombarded with protons, it becomes Element 116.  Element 116 is unstable and gives up anti-protons. 

I was watching a TV program the other day about a UK nuclear reactor Sellafield  and I thought it said that they fire Neutrons to the nuclear samples NOT Protons or electron s..... be it to a uranium or plutonium sample ...

but where they fire them from and how exactly I am not sure... I assume down some sort of tube..

but it in any way similar ro Bobs reactor on  different scale maybe or completely a different design..

I know larger Nuclear reactors hold the samples in an underground / underwater type location for cooling purposes etc.. in a very thick lead type of container..

Would Bobs craft have a type of lead like material that somehow contained the sample... maybe some advanced material that is not heavy like lead...if such a thing was possible...if for eg we now see materials like carbon being used due to its unique properties where it can be much thinner and lighter than past materials used..

Unlikly BUT who really knows what maybe possible !


http://gravitywarpdrive.com/Anti-Matter_Reactor.htm


BUT where is the Proton actually fired from ...

I see a Tube of some sort ... but where does it start from and what or where was the protons source located from...

there are two tubes shown in the photos below..

one small one that is  shown come out of the lower side and curves downwards  and one larger one that seems to appear vertically..above the sphere shape//








If I recall Bob did claim that he witnessed a craft fly for a very short take off...and I have seen some images or animations that show what he claimed to see..

I was never aware until recently that its suggested that one of the amplfiers were missing when Bob went to look inside the craft...

It does appear to me on one photo or image that the amplifiers or emmitters were in the lower section of the craft and that Bob did need to go thru a seperate hatch to be able to se into the upper section ..

I think thos image shows the emitters in the lower section only...

So is there a low setting and a high setting better yet when whatever test flies the craft with the 2 gravity amplifiers on how do they possibly control the craft why use the Sport Model that's missing an Amplifier ? Tell me how they controlled the amount of power which Bob seems to have no answer for to the gravity amplifiers ? Bob has always maintained when the E115 was put in the tube it instantaneously would start which to me makes zero sense no on off ?? You are dealing with 20 hydrogen bombs according to Lazar and Lear in a tuned tube in to a vacuum below? How does this material withstand the incredible explosive power this is not possible the science is not possible.

If true I find it hard to believe that an annihilation reaction in a vacuum is turned off by something after the reaction meaning the turning of the gravity amplifiers that makes no sense at all. And again another coincidence Bob loves particle accelerators its amazing that Aliens from Zeta reticuli fly here using a particle accelerator that is very primitive yet another coincidence Bob and the particle accelerators. The ETs just happen to use one to pull time and space towards them without sucking up anything local...

Im going to post some major contradictions below By Bob Lazar himself who claims: "The gravity amplifiers always runs at 100%

[astr0144]

This was one of the Images that I always recall that was shown as being an animation of Bob Lazars Sports model flights test...that I thought was really very well created...if it was purely just made up and not real filmed footage..







I can see on one of his websites that it suggest that there is a download of the video or maybe animation of the flight test..

I am unable to open the download file to watch it... maybe someone can say if it shows images similar to the photo image that I posted ..

http://users.skynet.be/bob.lazar/www.boblazar.com/closed/home.html

From what I recall one of the images did show two or three persons observing the Saucer make a short take off.. and who ever was flying it was trying to control the saucer...One of the persons if I recall may have looked like Bob or one of his associates where we see him from a side or rear view looking up at the Saucer...

just found these a bit later on ...









I am not sure if those images or animation used to be visible on his old website..

But his latest version now does not show the whole images or animation .... other than maybe as a download..

I found this website that shows some of the images that Michael Schratt had created in good detail.

http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-2/ufo-topsecret.htm
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I personally would not think that if the videos A51 Watcher has posted are as real as he suggests.. I do not think that I could conclude that they maybe drones...or had not until I later saw the added drone video that you posted that initially before I replied to this.. I was not able to see....        BUT I am not sure the drones vids quite match A51s wideos..

The processes done by his team have gone thru varaious stages using specilists forensic typ esoftware from what we are led to understand .... I am not sure HOW it may be making what seems like a gravitaional or electrical type  or plasma
efect in his later versions... but I do not think that I have EVER seen anything quite like them before even on any hollywood productios / movies..

Its seems as if its almost looking inside parts or sections within the craft ...and not just the outer skin.

If some how it was faked... again I have never seen anything like it before.. and I still find the footage most interesting..and WAS almost unlike anything else I have seen.. (Until I have now seen your drone video !      )

Big Pappy
You don't know for sure that you saw an anti gravity vehicle a modern drone would be one answer for what you may have seen. You can not prove that what you saw was an alien Zeta Reticuli Spacecraft.

A modern drone show imagine what you would had thought if you had seen this technology from what 20 miles away at Area51 in 1989 ? You would had thought OMG its flying saucers !!! They were making Drones and testing drones long time ago far before the modern tech we can buy over the counter.

[astr0144]

In ref to what you suggest about the Video footage that Bob Lazar , John Lear and Gene Huff claimed to have filmed..

I will need to try and find the video of that to rewatch it again...

I cannot recall all the details or how long it  lasted for...o how much footage thatthey may have actually filmed..

BUT if John was NOT involved in any hoax (If say Gene and Bob were)   

If I recall John has always said that he witnessed a Saucer Craft test...  and he also claimed to have seen it one more than one occasion.

I am not sure  or cannot recall if all occasions were filmed ... or which one we tend to have become aware of...

When A51 watcher created his own video... if I recall he also has recreated Bobs.. and again if I recall they both showed to appear similar after he had done all the advanced recreation and further magnifacation and clarifications of the two sitings...


At the moment I assume the original Bob Lazar  videos are on PRC  or easily found somewhere online and I need to find it again ...

unless someone has what they think is the correct or more trusted version/s that the have a ref or link to..

I have so far found this on e a quick online search that I think is A51 Watchers or at least part of his footage from Bobs sighting version is shown...

It seems to show about 2 mins worth of the original footage , but part of that is showing John Lear talking as the event was taking place...

the UFO footage starts just after the 1 min mark after Gene Huff was being Interviewed from somewhere after the event..

I can see at the beginning of the UFO footage or what ever it is we are seeing.... be it a dim light that is suggested in the distance..

I think I can hear someone saying did you see that...(Maybe Gene Huff ) and maybe we hear  Bob replying "NO I did not !" ...

IF he / they was doing a HOAX...... Would Bob say NO I did not ?

But at the same time we do see some movement at the time when maybe Gene Huff is asking that question...

However can we prove that Gene Huff may move the camera ? if we even do hear what seems like foot steps towards the camera. ?

But otherwise it does appear in this short footage, that there is not a lot of movement of the dim light or UFO we see in the distance !

I dont think we see anything suggest any large movements of say anywhere from a mile or 5 miles or 30 miles in seconds or minutes even...as overall the object appears quite stationary...unless the small movemnt we are seeing are on such a far away  scale that what seem like minor movements are of a much larger scale than maybe we imagine..

BUT overal it does appear as if it is a saucer  craft of some souce.. that its ALWAYS In some sort of movement up or down or sideways as if its trying to maintain some sort of control to hover overall in one position.

So again if they were creating a hoax.... HOW do you think that they account for that sort of movement ?

Is the cameral on some sort of tripod that say makes short type variational movemnets up or down / side to side..or even diagional at times.... I would find that rather unlikely....

or is it someone constantly swaying the camera to some degree

or is the object a real craft making smaller variational movements



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=82&v=ufPIHJ7To9g


I found this video for now that shows a few short clips of the test flight .... it also shows the test flight animation that I referred to in my previous post at about the 7 min mark...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=445&v=6BbOvUO2NAU

The video of lazar and Huff that's so famous is a stationary light. You can clearly hear Gene Huff walk over to the camera bump the camera and then says "Did you see that?" Lazar replies No I didn't Huff replies "It went zoom zoom" That particular incident was what made me start to think hold on a minute hear they are all watching this craft and Huff is the only one that sees it go he estimates 30 miles across the sky and back made no sense. Lazar and company should had seen this happen but they didn't and once again we can go over the video you can clearly hear him walk to the camera bump it those old mics were super sensitive as well.

You are correct first off I have been sick for the past month with several illnesses so it make look like i'm having a coronary and jumping around and for that I hope everyone understands. Forgive me for the typos as well when using my phone the autocorrect doesn't seem to correct anything again I have been ill for a month now I sometimes wonder if we have all been poisoned.

I didn't say Gene and Bob were jealous of John lear. If you go to Bob Lazar's original BobLazarDOTcom which is online. You Can read Bobs transcripts and I found it very strange how they watched John for at least one year On The Record and then Gene approaches him to trade a real estate appraisal for UFO tape copies. One of those tapes as you know and I can prove was The Billy Meier tapes. In those Billy Meier tapes for those who don't know was the beam Ship that is in appearance identical to the Sport Model Bob showed. Except for the ETs are totally different.

Im trying to show a number of alleged coincidences that are not actually coincidences. A51Watcher there is no doubt in my mind that you and others saw things in the skies above Area51 that you cant explain this was going on for some time after Bob came out you would think they would have stopped all saucer programs once you and others were camped out on Freedom Ridge. There are other explanations.

The video of lazar and Huff that's so famous is a stationary light. You can clearly hear Gene Huff walk over to the camera bump the camera and then says "Did you see that?" Lazar replies No I didn't Huff replies "It went zoom zoom" That particular incident was what made me start to think hold on a minute hear they are all watching this craft and Huff is the only one that sees it go he estimates 30 miles across the sky and back made no sense. Lazar and company should had seen this happen but they didn't and once again we can go over the video you can clearly hear him walk to the camera bump it those old mics were super sensitive as well.

I also find the falling out between Gene and Lazar suspicious and the comments made atlears Birthday party. As far as calling Gene Bobs buddy I meant no offense by that he had referred to him as his buddy and Knapp had referred to Huff as his buddy in interviews as well. I think what I am going to do is put together a list of all the coincidences that we have when it comes to lazar and his story and maybe we can go over them one ata time I will offer this. As far as your sighting in the deserts I'm not going to go along with the theory of Tom Mahood who claims it was a Proton beam weapon. At the same time because there is no S4 at Papoose Lake and Bob did not have the degrees and many other claims he he can't prove I have to say I don't believe Bob Lazar.

I do believe that Bob Lazar and Gene Huff wrote this story as I stated they watched lear saw the attention and though they could cash in. Which is what Lazar is doing right now. I believe that they used John Lear as a conduit to get the story out and because Bob lazar talked about a fictitious place and a fictitious story he cant be arrested. Bob never would have had the time to get the TS clearance approved to go to Groom Lake impossible you must have a Top Secret Clearance to go to Groom this is a fact ask any member of the RoadRunners International as I have.

Yes Corey Goode has been talking about Archaeological UFO sites in Antarctica Linda Howe has been doing the same using a fake navy SEAL. I will ask you I don't recall Lazar saying years ago these 9 discs were the result of an archaeological dig have you ? You would think we would have one whistleblower from the digs? Or one whistleblower from S4 by now but nothing we had what Dan Burisch..

A51Watcher I do enjoy our conversations it makes life interesting I am not trying to be a smart A$$ I wish I could had been there to see what you had seen at Groom.

[A51Watcher]

[A51Watcher]