A question for all...

[petrus4]

I deleted the last two posts I made in this thread.  I realised that while I may not have any real hope left, that it is still wrong of me to try and take that away from anyone else.

I hope something will save us.  I don't think anything will, but I hope it does.

[space otter]

Pets r us

it's only over if YOU believe it is

and i do know you are smart enough to figure a way out.....do it !

[The Seeker]

Good question mate and there definitely seems to be an concerted agenda in play (whether it's active misdirection, plausible deniability or just saturation of search engine results) - I did see this vid a few weeks ago and call me cynical but I do hope the endgame to all this engineered hype isn't just going to be 'hypersonic tech',

That's what Kaku seems to be selling..

Karl, one interesting point to come out of the inside america program was the discussion between a hollywood special effects guru and a nasa engineer/physicist, Travis Taylor, which, since the "tic-tac" was filmed in infrared, was the total lack of any heat signature, and the comment about it possibly being an Alcubierre warp bubble propulsion system

as far as it being some form of black project hypersonic program, it would still have to be new, unconventional tech (for the sightings that are actually our craft,) using something other than ramjet or pulse-detonation style engines...

perhaps we will finally be shown some of the repressed and hidden tech that could improve our paradigm

[micjer]

This is my belief on many of the ufo sightings that are not man-made.




According to the Book of Enoch, "The Watchers" came down from heaven to impart knowledge on mankind, and Ancient Astronaut Theorists contend that these beings continue to monitor our daily lives in this clip

[The Seeker]

My personal belief is that these craft are being seen ONLY because 'THEY' want them to be seen.
Who are 'THEY'? Well it certainly isn't the Navy or any other 'official' government agency.
Although the Navy has it's special place in all this as they govern what goes on.
The other agencies are just for show in this en devour of UFO's.

Indeed, finding out who 'They' are, the puppetmasters behind the scene, would be very enlightening and perhaps quite shocking...

Sgt. you're not talking about some other worldly entities?
No not necessarily just them, they have to have a funnel for all these advancements to be eventually shown (or come to light).
It's the behind the scenes outfits that work to channel all this to the public, at their specific speed, i.e. when they think we're ready for it.
Regardless of who's in power or what agency is the flavor of the day.

I do believe there is a very large gap between what the PTB has and what we are allowed to know about; The Rand Corp, JPL,Sandia, Los Alamos, et al, filter what we get to see

There was a movie not too long ago, called 'Forgotten'.
Check that out and believe that we let them do what they want, no matter how terrible it might be and help them,because.....'What choice do we have'?

Damage control; by aiding and assisting, it keeps what happens minimized, whereas direct confrontation might lead to a full blown disaster for humanity...

Anyway that's my opinion.

Rock 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Indeed, finding out who 'They' are, the puppetmasters behind the scene, would be very enlightening and perhaps quite shocking...
I do believe there is a very large gap between what the PTB has and what we are allowed to know about; The Rand Corp, JPL,Sandia, Los Alamos, et al, filter what we get to see

Damage control; by aiding and assisting, it keeps what happens minimized, whereas direct confrontation might lead to a full blown disaster for humanity...

'They are listening'.....


'I Know, I Know'.......


I know this is over exaggerated, for movie effects....but ....

[The Seeker]

I know this is over exaggerated, for movie effects....but ....

Mebbe, Mebbe not; still makes one stop to ponder...

[The Seeker]

This is my belief on many of the ufo sightings that are not man-made.




According to the Book of Enoch, "The Watchers" came down from heaven to impart knowledge on mankind, and Ancient Astronaut Theorists contend that these beings continue to monitor our daily lives in this clip

Mic, Ingo Swann (RIP) contended that there are millions of off worlders living amongst us every day; Clifford Stone claims there are 57 different alien species that our govt is aware of and/or had contact with;

then there is that group that is convinced that Earth is naught but a farm, and we are cattle...

As for the abundance of material popping up about fusion, let us consider that international treaty(riiigghhttt) prohibits the use of nuclear systems in aircraft; won't surprise me in the least if it is revealed that craft, (such as the 'non-existent' TR3B do exist,) are powered by fusion power plants...

  Seeker

[Ellirium113]

Mic, Ingo Swann (RIP) contended that there are millions of off worlders living amongst us every day; Clifford Stone claims there are 57 different alien species that our govt is aware of and/or had contact with;

I agree there would be far more than a single race of aliens visiting. Life is extremely diverse.
The KGB even had a book of alien races.

https://en.calameo.com/read/003261369f3a4ebfdbffb

It is impossible to determine what the agenda is because each race would have their own agenda. This could be why so many different ufos. Even Bob Lazar said they had different ones.

Scary to think to some we might be food, to others, slaves or puppets here on this planet. Some likely would be trying to help and others trying to kill us off. No less chaotic than world affairs I think.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Just like the movie Jupiter Ascending, which Lou Baldin says is more real than you think, there are races that are predators and those that are protectors.

Rock 

[ArMaP]

...let us consider that international treaty(riiigghhttt) prohibits the use of nuclear systems in aircraft;

I'm not aware of that treaty, could you give me more information about it?

Thanks in advance.

[The Seeker]

I'm not aware of that treaty, could you give me more information about it?

Thanks in advance.

I had to go back and read the The Non-Proliferation Treaty and the Limited Nuclear Test Ban; there is actually a loophole in both that would allow nuclear powered aircraft using HEU; it has been 30-40 years since that was an issue in my personal paradigm, and I mistakenly thought aircraft had been included in the different ban writs of SALT, NNPT, and LNTB Treaties; I do recall that it was an issue of discussion at the time...

[burntheships]

What new transparency?

Exactly.

[Shasta56]

 My gut tells me there's something out there.  I often have a feeling of being watched. I grew up in a family that was very involved in the military industrial complex. I've experienced things that I  haven't found a rational explanation for. I haven't followed any of the media circus concerning UFO's in years.  I find it to be more baffle them with bullshit, than dazzle them with brilliance.  It was kind of cool in Independence Day, when they had to let the president in on the real story, but I think Ike was the last one to really know and understand. 

[The Seeker]

My gut tells me there's something out there.  I often have a feeling of being watched. I grew up in a family that was very involved in the military industrial complex. I've experienced things that I  haven't found a rational explanation for.

I had a lot of family members involved in either the military or MIC, plus several jobs myself that followed that path...

I haven't followed any of the media circus concerning UFO's in years.  I find it to be more baffle them with bullshit, than dazzle them with brilliance.

Unfortunately I have to agree, and lately there is so much bullshit we need a battleship to stay afloat

 

It was kind of cool in Independence Day, when they had to let the president in on the real story, but I think Ike was the last one to really know and understand.

Kennedy knew, wanted to tell everyone what he knew, and you see what that got him 

George H W Bush also knew, considering he was former head of the CIA, he was the one that told Jimmy Carter that he didn't have a need to know...

There is just too much being put out there right now concerning UFO/UAP/USO, leads me to look more to see what They don't want us to see with all this plethora of distraction...

keep looking

Seeker