A question for all...

[Shasta56]

The time is coming when they won't be able to keep the information hidden.  There may be Christians who view it as the Trubulation.  We'll know them by the bumper stickers that say, "In case of Rapture, this car will be unmanned.

[Shasta56]

I have it from a reliable source, a former cabinet member, that HW didn't listen to any advice he didn't like.  Did that influence the direction that would be taken with regard to UFO's? 

[The Seeker]

I have it from a reliable source, a former cabinet member, that HW didn't listen to any advice he didn't like.  Did that influence the direction that would be taken with regard to UFO's?

Probably not, since GHWB more than likely knew long before he became vice president, much less potus...

[bigpappy51]

Current programs being run about space/ufo's/strange occurrences:

https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation
Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation

On the Travel Channel:

UFO'S: The lost Evidence

Alien Highway

On the Science Channel:

The Truth behind the Moon landiings

Contact(another series about the Nimitz tic tac)

NASA's Unexplained Files

seems they all want to push the agenda

I was on NASAs Unexplained Files first season and these Cable TV shows don't pay much if anything and their budgets are not what people think. The more and more I look into the TTSA I think its a bunch of garbage. As you stated Seeker the timing of everything going on its all happened so fast. In my opinion is very suspect just like that group of characters in The TTSA. I think its a govt operation for sure an attempt to make one believe that everything people see in the skies that you cant identify is ET. I have drawings of a case in 1967 that myself and Michael Schratt found in a UFO collection from 1967 this past year.

In that drawing is a perfect Tic Tac with the exact same appendages under the craft it was made of metal and had rivets all over the craft. This would not be aliens with that said . This craft was right above the Wycombe Rover in Philadelphia the exact location was about 20 miles away from the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard.  I believe thee Tic Tac craftare Navy and the technology antigravity has been figured out by other countries so this is all just disinformation to throw off others "hey this is aliens not us..." to foreign governments they are stalling for time.

I will post photos of the witness testimony drawings 1967 incident below I cant post any longer in PhotoBucket I need to use the system on here ArMap had emailed me on how to use it I need to transfer all my photos and add a bunch of new photos and info I have to the photo format on here. I was blown away when Schratt emailed me and said look at these when I asked him where he got the case from he said The Gray Barker UFO collection in West VA. I was surprised but jkew the trip had been worth the long drive.

[bigpappy51]

This particular TTSA video called "Go Fast" when I first saw this I knew I had seen it before . It was on 4 names Vidme sight he's involved in all of this as well for sure. George Knapp is financially vested in the company I don't trust anything George Knapp says anyway. 4 Names had made up a couple excuses on why he had that video on his Vimeo I believe could be wrong I know it was another platform not YouTube. The point is if this was some new disclosure by the DOD how and why did he have it on his Vimeo page in 2015 ? And why did he take it down right away ? How did he get Bob Lazar to talk when no one else could get to Bob Lazar wish Gene Huff would talk.. The timing is suspect as I stated before.

Anyway as I mentioned that Go Fast video I had talked to Zorgon in private and had shown him what I thought it was which is an anti ship missile. I don't see this so called alien ship or unknown doing anything that we don't currently have..

"Go Fast" video from TTSA below:



Compare the Go Fast video with an Anti Ship Missile I believe that's what we are seeing none of the videos they have shown looks like ET to me and many others.. TTSA keeps making promises they don't keep we are all still waiting to see something.

[The Seeker]

As I stated in the OP, what are they trying to draw our attention away from? For the most part, all those shows I listed are just more of the dog n pony show/3 ring loon circus that has been Ufology for a very long time

It's still the same old song and dance, treat us all like mushrooms,i.e. keep us in the dark and feed us lots of bullshit...

The Puppetmasters are still pulling everyone's strings to suit their purposes and their agendas whist we bumble around chasing  whatever they decide to dangle in front of us on the edge of the cliff...

 

Seeker

[space otter]

ah Seeker

i said it before.. hiding in plain site

when i buy some goodies  i don't want  hubby to grab first i put them  front and center in the frig..bwhahahahahah
honest he will move stuff around  and shuffle the item  and then turn around and say.. "i can't find ***  where is is?...'
and i laugh at him and say it's right in front of you...
he grumbles and grabs it..hahahahahahah


i think all we need to do is look front and center to see what they are trying to hide


later   cabbages are calling my name   lol

[ArMaP]

when i buy some goodies  i don't want  hubby to grab first i put them  front and center in the frig..bwhahahahahah
honest he will move stuff around  and shuffle the item  and then turn around and say.. "i can't find ***  where is is?...'
and i laugh at him and say it's right in front of you...
he grumbles and grabs it..hahahahahahah

To do that in an effective way we must know how people react to that specific situation, like you do.

Governments have enough information about the average person to do that in a way that is effective with most people.

[bigpappy51]

As I stated in the OP, what are they trying to draw our attention away from? For the most part, all those shows I listed are just more of the dog n pony show/3 ring loon circus that has been Ufology for a very long time

It's still the same old song and dance, treat us all like mushrooms,i.e. keep us in the dark and feed us lots of bullshit...

The Puppetmasters are still pulling everyone's strings to suit their purposes and their agendas whist we bumble around chasing  whatever they decide to dangle in front of us on the edge of the cliff...

 

Seeker

I agree with you Seeker these videos have been scrutinized by experts I have seen videos that look exactly like the craft the allegedly goes on its side. But in actuality depending on the settings you could be looking at a jets exhaust and the camera angle changing that craft is not hovering.

[The Seeker]

I agree with you Seeker these videos have been scrutinized by experts I have seen videos that look exactly like the craft the allegedly goes on its side. But in actuality depending on the settings you could be looking at a jets exhaust and the camera angle changing that craft is not hovering.

BP, the part that leaps out at me is that the plane is in infrared mode, yet there is no trace of any heat source or exhaust plume whatsoever...



Seeker

[ArMaP]

BP, the part that leaps out at me is that the plane is in infrared mode, yet there is no trace of any heat source or exhaust plume whatsoever...

Maybe that's what they were testing.

[The Seeker]

Maybe that's what they were testing.

That is always a possibility, ArMaP, but even so, that doesn't explain the almost instantaneous changes in altitude, which had to generate a tremendous G force load in conventional craft, but if this object is creating its own gravity field, then it doesn't apply...

[bigpappy51]

BP, the part that leaps out at me is that the plane is in infrared mode, yet there is no trace of any heat source or exhaust plume whatsoever...



Seeker

Hey Seeke.
Always a pleasure talking to you my friend sorry it took me a week to get back.

In the "Go Fast" UFO video and same as other videos you will not see the exhaust plume depending on the sittings I can show a number of 747 Boeing Jets that show zero exhaust plum. The findings from the people at Metabunk shocked me they put an amazing amount of time into each case.

I will firstresent the Go fastcraft and as I said before I think its nothing more than an anti ship missile and its not going Aliens Spaceship speeds not even close. Have a look at this video Mick West did and tell me your thoughts ?

[bigpappy51]

 The following video known as Gimbal has been used by Bob Lazar fans saying this proves Bob Lazar is correct the craft turns on its side as Bob stated in "Delta Mode" 4Names stuck this video in Bobs face on a YouTube video and Bob said OMG its Delta mode... Only problem is its supposed to disappear after going into Delta mode into another star system which we don't see happen. Again Mick West has put an incredible amount of time on these cases.

I have seen others who explain this away in a similar fashion experts which I am not and do not know anyone who is an expert on what we are seeing. We do however have a very plausible explanation please watch a couple times and this makes total sense on what is actually being seen again I will explain the no exhaust plumes which has to do with settings nothing more.

Please Watch

[bigpappy51]

No onto the Nimitz craftwich to me is least impressive espia cry after seeing this explanation. At 3:28 we can see a 767 with an IR camera and see npo exhaust plumes at all it looks just like a flying saucer and its a trick nothing more which is created by the IR and what it sees. I think all 3 of these cases have been totally debunked the question is why is the TTSA doing this ? Well look at the players who do you trust from that group ?

I sure do not trust George Knapp he acts like he's an impartial newsman who is just looking for the truth. Hardly George is vested in the TTSA which looks like failing company. Luis Elizondo.. the guys counterintelligence for goodness sakes and lied about when he left this so called AATIP group . The DOD has said he never ran AATIP then the document they were busted faking which KNapp took down from his site quickly which is posted on here somewhere I remember the night sent it to Zorgon.

If the Tic Tac craft are real they were built in a Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia in the 1960s and I have a case from 1967 with an excellent drawing the craft had rivets Idount ET will come here using a craft held together by rivets. This craft has the same shape same "L" shaped appendages was blown away when I saw this back in February. I am going to take minute and figure out how to use the picture photos option here on the forum because my Photobucket has been seized. Someone doesn't like some of the photos I have been showing on there and Photobucket has actually removed some of them citing they violate terms of service every picture is detrimental to Bob Lazars story which I found interesting.

Please Watch Nimitz Explanation