Videos dealing with Corona Virus

[astr0144]

I recall Mikados name, but was not realy sure what was going on with the Other related TT / LB follower members
I cant really recall too much about it or did not understand much about it then or now...as Z and various other members were connected some years prior from other groups inc ATS ...so it would have been or was hard to follow or understand the discussions... but if Mikado did have his house bulldozed... that seems very disturbing.

I will have to allow some of your shorter comments to sink in I think to try to gain maybe more understanding ..
but some of the words I think have certain meanings to me.

astr0144,
There were some very strange things going on with someone using the name Mikado.
He had his house bulldozed to the ground.Powerful forces at work indeed.
Gravitator. gravitor.
Kevin

I dont recall Pauls name... but its a real shame if he was not to have wrote the book.

Quite possible he was asked from certain hidden  powers not to do so.

A writer called Paul Schatzkin was asked to write the life story of TTBrown.

He suddenly stopped, as if spooked.

Kevin

[ArMaP]

In ref to Sceptics of A.J and what he seems to be suggesting, from what I can recall when I used to follow him in my earlier days... he suggests that many Scientists who may support most more modern day vaccines are working or connected to Government  and maybe affraid to tell any truths due to loosing their jobs...if what A.J says has truths to it.

Some vaccines are compulsory in some countries, other countries do not have any compulsory vaccination, like Italy.

In Portugal, some vaccines are compulsory but we may ignore some of those without any problem, I spent many years without taking my vaccines, and only got them when I went to get the machine to make my own diabetes tests, as the nurse saw that I didn't have the vaccines updated and gave me the vaccines. In Portugal, unless under an emergency or calamity state (as we are now) everybody has the right to refuse medical any procedure.

Is the virus designed to do as A.J suggests ... shorten our lives or effect us in negative ways..or for it to kill us off in
a more discreet way rather than killing us in war like ways or risking Nukes...

Seasonal flu kills more people than CoViD-19, in Portugal 3 times more, as we usually have around 3000 deaths from seasonal flu and we are today at 1105 deaths from CoViD-19.

If they wanted to Kill us off....  How quick would they like to do so I wonder and it would seem that giving us the vaccine is certainly a way just  to much more easily cover things up...and easily come up with excuses if or when people may start to die...

or could they also maybe be including some sort of Nano technolgy Chip within the vaccine is something that I wonder they may also be considering...

If people taking one specific vaccine start to die unexpectedly people would notice, and doctors would notice, and not all doctors work for the government, so they couldn't keep those from talking about it and publishing their results.
As for a possible chip inside the vaccine, it could only be something like a RFID chip, as it would need to be so small that it couldn't do much, it could only be a mostly passive chip.

The way I see it is they already have a large majority of the public mind controlled by their mobile smart phones  that has chips in.. so they already are almost able to monitor us to a reasonable degree.

I would say more than reasonable.

BUT to ensure that the public are more fully controlled for more future reasons... then I am sure that the power hungrey
controllers like Hitlers... Would like to experiment with us all in numerous further ways in what they may see as a type of
further indepth experiment...which I am sure would be much fun and ammusment to them type of persons.

The best way of controlling people is to have them on their side. That's why here in Portugal, during the fascist regime, bread, milk and other necessary products that the people needed (most of the people were poor) were subsidised by the state, to allow people to have access to those things but not to others they didn't want people to have, like education.
If someone spoke against the government then the people that were not able to get an education and, because of that, didn't even know how to read (one bishop said that people should only learn how to sign their name, reading the newspaper headlines could be dangerous) would react against them because the government appeared to be good to them.

But it may seem that some Countries leaders claim that they took actions much quicker to have managed to reduce the treat of the virus as they claim to have took the right  actions much  earlier on.

Some countries did things in one way, other countries in a different way, it doesn't sound like they were all on the same page in reacting against CoViD-19.

WHY was most Countries NOT taking what should have been DESIGNED procedures that should have been already in place if such a threat occurs....

From what I have seen, countries were not really prepared for a thing like this, they were not expecting a new disease that spreads that fast. Fortunately, it's not as contagious as measles, otherwise all countries would have reached full saturation of the health system in a week or two.
(Portugal was above 80% capacity of the UCI beds after some days, now we are below 50%)

THE USA for eg has Govt organisations like FEMA... Federal Emergency Management Agency..

Are they NOT supposed to have processes / procedures in place if such threats occur ? where they should automatically
take relevent actions if any Virus or threats occurs ? and also have equipment in sore for such emergencies ?

Apparently they were not expecting something this big (or were not really expecting an epidemic), and I saw at least one article saying that some of the equipment they had (not specifically FEMA, but the Strategic National Stockpile) was past their expiration date.

Seeing that these organisations DID NOT appear to act as they could have done.. to me makes me severely QUESTION
what has occured and question why should we believe them

Probably the thing that usually happens, incompetence and corruption, with some people ignoring their duties and some people diverting money/equipment to companies belonging to their family and friends.

Bill Gates Announces World Government Will Forcibly Inoculate Entire Planet - FULL SHOW 5/6/20

https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb3369ab92746003a078a83

Sorry, I'm not going to watch an almost 3 hours video from a guy I don't like.

[ArMaP]

I reckon Portugal may be the perfect place to ride out this crap?

Not perfect, but at least a good place.

You are more than right about the fear, that is what the virus is designed to instill, that will then enable their agenda of global injections to further their agenda,

If that's the case don't you see you are helping them with your posts? You aren't providing real evidences of what you say, so people tend to dismiss it, so, if "they" exist, they get stronger when people dismiss your posts as being unproven.

If you have clear evidences, post them, if you do not then it means you need more investigation, so you can get to the evidence.

They are reporting today that black people are four times more likely to die from the virus than white people.

I saw something similar one month or more ago, from the US.

And that is a glimpse of the eugenics part of their agenda.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/uk-coronavirus-live-boris-johnson-to-review-lockdown-as-bank-of-england-gives-stark-recession-warning/ar-BB13FZQN?MSCC=1588853614&ocid=spartandhp

I don't understand where's the eugenics in that article.

[astr0144]

Quote from: astr0144 on Today at 02:10:45 AM

I included my prior posts  and have included Armaps comments and replied inbetween the two in  Black BOLDER TYPE.

   

In ref to Sceptics of A.J and what he seems to be suggesting, from what I can recall when I used to follow him in my earlier days... he suggests that many Scientists who may support most more modern day vaccines are working or connected to Government  and maybe affraid to tell any truths due to loosing their jobs...if what A.J says has truths to it.

In ref to Vaccines... No doubt we can have differing views, that can depend upon varied factors. which is what makes some find it VERY HARD to try to decide what to do or consider about them.

Before Alex Jones educated me on his views on them.. which I now do seriously more consider... prior to this... I probably would not had questioned them. and probably been willing to go along with them if some Doctors or medical
persons had suggested we accept taking them.

Also if certain people already are using them.. or have had situations where they had taken them before and maybe
been benifited by them... then that would seem so much harder to question any negative sides or conspiracies to them.

Then there is the main concern about past epiemics where its suggested that the invention of the virus saved humanity during those death / deadly times... that if say today we were to witness people we know start to die on a larger scale..

if it was then a vaccine could help save or reduce our chances of being effected... in many cases I am sure most would welcome chancing requesting to have treatment and to accpt having the vaccine.

and this is also why if someone comes along with an EVIL like intention behind suggesting that the public should consider taking such treatment.... then its very hard to know any different.. and we also are just often no better than
children who can only go along or accpt what adults would tell or advise us.

In cases where there is a genuine severe epidemic dangerous disease... that is Very contagous....then that would
seem that taking a vaccine if its been created and proven to some accptable degree to aid us for the better..

then if it then comes down to what should we think if some people decide that they will not accept being vaccinated..

then it could be that the majority will agree with any authorities to enforce such people to be vaccinated as so to aid them not infecting others.. or ourseleves in the future.

So this is also an IDEAL solution for anyone who may have deliberate evil like intentions... to be able to use such a
thing to convince the masses to go along with it.... unless somehow or someone trusted can educate us differently 
to aid us to avoid accpting them and also stopping authorities from enforcing them on us...of which only certain trusted persons of certain influences could be chosen for this ..

Armap

Some vaccines are compulsory in some countries, other countries do not have any compulsory vaccination, like Italy.

In Portugal, some vaccines are compulsory but we may ignore some of those without any problem, I spent many years without taking my vaccines, and only got them when I went to get the machine to make my own diabetes tests, as the nurse saw that I didn't have the vaccines updated and gave me the vaccines. In Portugal, unless under an emergency or calamity state (as we are now) everybody has the right to refuse medical any procedure.

   

Is the virus designed to do as A.J suggests ... shorten our lives or effect us in negative ways..or for it to kill us off in     a more discreet way rather than killing us in war like ways or risking Nukes...

So are you suggesting those figures for seasnal Flu is the avg norm each year ?

and is 1105 CV 19 deaths in total since virus became more known from say early January..?

Comparing to the Uk where we are now upto over 30,000 deaths... a big diference !

and as far as I am aware... the UK CV 19 deaths so far in say just 3 to 5 months... is much more than just normal type seasonal flu deaths... (Not sure what that figure maybe with out checking..)

Seasonal flu kills more people than CoViD-19, in Portugal 3 times more, as we usually have around 3000 deaths from seasonal flu and we are today at 1105 deaths from CoViD-19.

    If they wanted to Kill us off....  How quick would they like to do so I wonder and it would seem that giving us the vaccine is certainly a way just  to much more easily cover things up...and easily come up with excuses if or when people may start to die...

    or could they also maybe be including some sort of Nano technology Chip within the vaccine is something that I wonder they may also be considering...

I am NOT sure if MOST Doctors are in some way or another connected to some sort of Govt as most of us maybe
in one way or another...but I suspect most are in the fact that in the UK for eg.. Most Doctors connected t it are in someway connected to a Govt controlled organisation as I suspect are most Drs who run even private type services.

BUT In the reality of things... would they ALL decide NOT to expose certain things.. just to ensre that they keep their jobs or careers... then I do suspect to quite a certain degree many would keep quite as they have a Lot to loose.

but I also suspect some would stand up for what they see as a major moral issue..esp if it was likely to effect certain people that they care about in some way.

In ref to NANO type chips or RFIDs... I am NOT certain they do exist... as yet.. BUT I suspect its highly possible that they
could do.. or that they have some other similar technology that gets smaller and smaller and harder to detect.

I think I have seen something on TV that has indicated such technolgy may exist...if I recall correctly.

If people taking one specific vaccine start to die unexpectedly people would notice, and doctors would notice, and not all doctors work for the government, so they couldn't keep those from talking about it and publishing their results.
As for a possible chip inside the vaccine, it could only be something like a RFID chip, as it would need to be so small that it couldn't do much, it could only be a mostly passive chip.

    The way I see it is they already have a large majority of the public mind controlled by their mobile smart phones  that has chips in.. so they already are almost able to monitor us to a reasonable degree.

Probably so

I would say more than reasonable.

    BUT to ensure that the public are more fully controlled for more future reasons... then I am sure that the power hungrey     controllers like Hitlers... Would like to experiment with us all in numerous further ways in what they may see as a type of     further indepth experiment...which I am sure would be much fun and ammusment to them type of persons.

You make some good points and may well have the better or best solutions as itsort of helps hide it infront of everyone
along with the fear of what may happen if your risk trying to question or query certain things that you may disagree with.. if the majority appear to accept and go along with something..

The best way of controlling people is to have them on their side. That's why here in Portugal, during the fascist regime, bread, milk and other necessary products that the people needed (most of the people were poor) were subsidised by the state, to allow people to have access to those things but not to others they didn't want people to have, like education.
If someone spoke against the government then the people that were not able to get an education and, because of that, didn't even know how to read (one bishop said that people should only learn how to sign their name, reading the newspaper headlines could be dangerous) would react against them because the government appeared to be good to them.

    But it may seem that some Countries leaders claim that they took actions much quicker to have managed to reduce the treat of the virus as they claim to have took the right  actions much  earlier on.

What you say seems to be the case.... but it does surprise me that their is not one main type of proven better way to
go about dealing with certain situations that is a Worldwide proven agenda that Countries agree to use or apply in certain situations... or maybe its best to NOT do things everyhee in the same way incase something goes wrong..
in one area hopefully that wont get repeated in other areas in the World.

Some countries did things in one way, other countries in a different way, it doesn't sound like they were all on the same page in reacting against CoViD-19.

    WHY was most Countries NOT taking what should have been DESIGNED procedures that should have been already in place if such a threat occurs....

I agree that generally overall in most cases such things are very rare...

BUT they DO HAPPEN and Such organisations are well aware that things happen unexpected..

and there are ways tobe best prepared for such events .. Some may say they have NO excuse !!!

From what I have seen, countries were not really prepared for a thing like this, they were not expecting a new disease that spreads that fast. Fortunately, it's not as contagious as measles, otherwise all countries would have reached full saturation of the health system in a week or two.
(Portugal was above 80% capacity of the UCI beds after some days, now we are below 50%)

    THE USA for eg has Govt organisations like FEMA... Federal Emergency Management Agency..
    Are they NOT supposed to have processes / procedures in place if such threats occur ? where they should automatically    take relevent actions if any Virus or threats occurs ? and also have equipment in sore for such emergencies ?

Again I agree we could say generally it was not expected and I can understand ignoring explanation dates for stock piled materials or drugs etc that could then have to be discared and replaced if you can then obtain the items ok.

Apparently they were not expecting something this big (or were not really expecting an epidemic), and I saw at least one article saying that some of the equipment they had (not specifically FEMA, but the Strategic National Stockpile) was past their expiration date.

    Seeing that these organisations DID NOT appear to act as they could have done.. to me makes me severely QUESTION     what has occured and question why should we believe them

That is probably correct and no doubt we can all be answerable for such situations at times..

Probably the thing that usually happens, incompetence and corruption, with some people ignoring their duties and some people diverting money/equipment to companies belonging to their family and friends.

    Bill Gates Announces World Government Will Forcibly Inoculate Entire Planet - FULL SHOW 5/6/20

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb3369ab92746003a078a83

I understand and dont blame you..

unfortunately I have also not watched it and cannot tell you the areas or times on the video of what maybe the most valid parts.

if I get time I MAY try to watch some of it..over the next few days..

This is a shorter video that I thought that I posted but I think  that  I did not do so..but that  meant and intended  to post it....

EXCLUSIVE! Trump To Expose Coronavirus Hoax!

https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb33bd3fad18d0060d7c388

Sorry, I'm not going to watch an almost 3 hours video from a guy I don't like

[ArMaP]

astr0144

Did you answer any thing of my post? I can't see if you did.

[astr0144]

ArMaP

I am trying to  answer at the moment in stages as I edit some of your comments...

I did not realise you had come back online before I edited the post.
I should have done this off line before I posted .. but thought that I could do this before anyone read it.
I will try to complete before my time is up to ammend...

I was trying to find some easier quicker way to answer in a certain layout without repeating the whole post to refer to..

but I have probably made a bitof a pigs ear of how I have tried to lay it out or ammend it unfortunately.

astr0144

Did you answer any thing of my post? I can't see if you did.

[ArMaP]

Before Alex Jones educated me on his views on them.. which I now do seriously more consider... prior to this... I probably would not had questioned them. and probably been willing to go along with them if some Doctors or medical
persons had suggested we accept taking them.

Also if certain people already are using them.. or have had situations where they had taken them before and maybe
been benifited by them... then that would seem so much harder to question any negative sides or conspiracies to them.

People have been using vaccines for centuries without problems worse than the disease they are supposed to fight. The last time I was vaccinated was in 2015, against diphtheria and tetanus, with no side effects.
What do you think is the problem with vaccines?

In cases where there is a genuine severe epidemic dangerous disease... that is Very contagous....then that would
seem that taking a vaccine if its been created and proven to some accptable degree to aid us for the better..

Do you mean something like measles? It's highly infectious and is almost eradicated in some countries like Portugal. It only reappeared in recent years because some people do not like vaccines.

So this is also an IDEAL solution for anyone who may have deliberate evil like intentions... to be able to use such a
thing to convince the masses to go along with it.... unless somehow or someone trusted can educate us differently 
to aid us to avoid accpting them and also stopping authorities from enforcing them on us...of which only certain trusted persons of certain influences could be chosen for this ..[/b]

But why use vaccines? What vaccines have that those hypothetical evil people want to use them to control the masses?

So are you suggesting those figures for seasnal Flu is the avg norm each year ?
and is 1105 CV 19 deaths in total since virus became more known from say early January..?

Yes. On a bad year we had almost twice that, with nearly 6,000 deaths.

Comparing to the Uk where we are now upto over 30,000 deaths... a big diference !

Portugal's death rate for CoViD-19 is 108 deaths per million, for the UK it's 451.

BUT In the reality of things... would they ALL decide NOT to expose certain things.. just to ensre that they keep their jobs or careers... then I do suspect to quite a certain degree many would keep quite as they have a Lot to loose.

Their oath is to protect human life, do you think they would accept something like this without any problem? Besides that we have doctors from all political colours, so we always have doctors against the government.
You see, doctors are people too.

In ref to NANO tye chips or RFIDs... I am NOT certain they do exist... as yet.. BUT I suspect its highly possible that they
could do.. or that they have some other similar technology that gets smaller and smaller and harder to detect.

I think I have seen something on TV that has indicated such technolgy may exist...if I recall correctly.
[/b]

"May exist" means nothing.
Yes, we have the technology to create nano chips, but would a chip do inside the human body? One isolated nano chip cannot do much, if "they" wanted it to do something they would need to add a power supply and interfaces for it to "read" the surroundings and actuators to act according to their program. We are far from nano chips that can have all that functionality, and, again, the question reappears: why?

What you say seems to be the case.... but it does surprise me that their is not one main type of proven better way to
go about dealing with certain situations that is a Worldwide proven agenda that Countries agree to use or apply in certain situations... or maybe its best to NOT do things everyhee in the same way incase something goes wrong..
in one area hopefully that wont get repeated in other areas in the World.

Most countries can't agree with basic things, why would they agree on having a common way of reacting against a pandemic?

[astr0144]

I re call seeing some ref to Cerbercus on some TV program that I watched at sometime... but I am not sure what it may
have been other than maybe something like "Ancient Aliens" or something like about Greek Myths and Monsters..

so it seems that I THINK you suggest what we have been discussing is to do with pure Human activity..

but again I am not sure if you may have any views that ETs may exist or have done in some ways connected with us in someway.

In ref to GATES.. is this in ref to some sort of portal / Star Gate or Bill Gates maybe 

This enemy looks like humans, walks like humans, talks like humans so don't go looking for aliens in the sky.

https://www.artfund.org/supporting-museums/art-weve-helped-buy/artwork/8506/cerberus

Basically that curly tailed monster has escaped via the GATES of hell, and is hungry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_All_Nations

TT Browns final project was called...project xerxes.

GATES swing both ways, You can enter or leave via a gate.

You can never be sure what may be released when You open a gate.

The gateway of all nations, and there are more things in heaven and Earth than meets the eyes.

Kevin

[astr0144]

I have not really studied the history of Vaccines over centuries.. and mainly are only aware of them in more modern times.. so how they may compare I dont really know. in terms of any or the  positive or negitive effects .

I can only really comment on what witnessed from Alex Jones and some of his associates educational views on it that I have watched online.

It may well be in some cases some Vaccines are OK and work positivly to help us and do not cause any real problems.

but some of things that I seem to recall AJ talking about are the use of mercury in them that can cause us problems and side effects..as well as shortening our life span and causing some cancers.

so that is some of the problems with Vaccines which I think we have discussed in some past posts at some time. if you can recall some of the points that I have indicated.


Quotes from ArMaP

People have been using vaccines for centuries without problems worse than the disease they are supposed to fight. The last time I was vaccinated was in 2015, against diphtheria and tetanus, with no side effects.
What do you think is the problem with vaccines?

In ref to what may be seen as VERY seriious Proven infections... then as I have said in some cases Vaccines maybe our only solution... even if they may have some negative effects.. it maybe we have to chance it and hope for the best.

but on some occasions it was suggested that some vaccines had been including really concerning other things within them that was suggested to be very bad for us but they still tried to fool us to accept them as being OK to take.

if I recall maybe on one maybe swine or bird Flu and H1 / N1 that also included some other part of the vaccine for some other issues that had been found to cause a lot of cancer and many other health related issues.

H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Insert Admits It Causes Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Vasculitis, Paralysis, Anaphylactic Shock And Death
Bird Flu Pandemic
Tuesday, Sept 29th, 2009

The package insert for the Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine manufactured by Novartis has been leaked on the Internet. According to that package insert, the vaccine (based on an earlier vaccine product known as Fluvirin) is known to cause a whole host of very nasty side effects such as guillain-barre syndrome, vasculitis, anaphylactic shock and even death.

Of course anyone who has been studying vaccine side effects already knows that it causes all of these things, but the story here is that the insert for the swine flu vaccine itself is admitting all of these things. The insert says that it was updated during September 2009, so it reflects the very latest information.

You can read the package insert for this vaccine for yourself right here.....

http://www.fluscam.com/Vaccine_Package_Inserts_files/Novartis_A-H1N1_2009_Monvalent_VaccinePackageInsert_BasedOn1980Approvalfor%20Fluvirin_UCM182242.pdf

The following is a list of some of the very nasty side effects that the vaccine package insert admits to

LOOK HOW LONG THE LIST IS !!!

*Local injection site reactions (including pain, pain limiting limb movement, redness, swelling, warmth, ecchymosis, induration)
*Hot flashes/flushes
*Chills
*Fever
*Malaise
*Shivering
*Fatigue
*Asthenia
*Facial edema.
*Immune system disorders
*Hypersensitivity reactions (including throat and/or mouth edema)
*In rare cases, hypersensitivity reactions have lead to anaphylactic shock and death
*Cardiovascular disorders
*Vasculitis (in rare cases with transient renal involvement)
*Syncope shortly after vaccination
*Digestive disorders
*Diarrhea
*Nausea
*Vomiting
*Abdominal pain.
*Blood and lymphatic disorders
*Local lymphadenopathy
*Transient thrombocytopenia.
*Metabolic and nutritional disorders
*Loss of appetite.
*Arthralgia
*Myalgia
*Myasthenia
*Nervous system disorders
*Headache
*Dizziness
*Neuralgia
*Paraesthesia
*Febrile convulsions
*Guillain-Barré Syndrome
*Myelitis (including encephalomyelitis and transverse myelitis)
*Neuropathy (including neuritis)
*Paralysis (including Bell's Palsy)
*Respiratory disorders
*Dyspnea
*Chest pain
*Cough
*Pharyngitis
*Rhinitis
*Stevens-Johnson syndrome
*Pruritus
*Urticaria
*Rash (including non-specific, maculopapular, and vesiculobulbous).


.....

https://www.prisonplanet.com/h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-insert-admits-it-causes-guillain-barre-syndrome-vasculitis-paralysis-anaphylactic-shock-and-death.html

Do you mean something like measles? It's highly infectious and is almost eradicated in some countries like Portugal. It only reappeared in recent years because some people do not like vaccines.

I can only suspect that it has been at some stage a easier way to get the public to accept as some forms of treatment to what may had been some designed intentional virus to say shorten our life if say for eg they aimed to either do some tests on the masses or help reduce populations in some way.

But why use vaccines? What vaccines have that those hypothetical evil people want to use them to control the masses?

that does seem a LOT for a warmer country..for just general Flu... but overall your CV 19 seems relatively low.. although you have a lower population maybe in comparision.. or maybe not if per million !

Yes. On a bad year we had almost twice that, with nearly 6,000 deaths.Portugal's death rate for CoViD-19 is 108 deaths per million, for the UK it's 451.

I agree that You would think Drs should take a moral oath and maybe most do... but I suspect a certain % may not
fully comply...

Yes some will take sides in certain issues..but I am not sure how that they may act on some major issues that maybe suggested to them from Govt..

Alex Jones has made many a comment about Govt type Scientist sideing with Govt and I assume that also includes medical type ones who are also Doctors..

Their oath is to protect human life, do you think they would accept something like this without any problem? Besides that we have doctors from all political colours, so we always have doctors against the government.
You see, doctors are people too.

I would more than likely say that they probly do already exist ... as I thin Nano techology has now become much more commonly used or will soon be so..

as to how they may work in the way you refer to... I am not sure but you may be right and I maybe wrong !

May exist" means nothing.
Yes, we have the technology to create nano chips, but would a chip do inside the human body? One isolated nano chip cannot do much, if "they" wanted it to do something they would need to add a power supply and interfaces for it to "read" the surroundings and actuators to act according to their program. We are far from nano chips that can have all that functionality, and, again, the question reappears: why?

Whatyou say maybe correct.. but if they have a positive proven overall method... why should that not becoem a standard method or procedure...like the use of say British Standards maybe used in many Countries for various things.

Most countries can't agree with basic things, why would they agree on having a common way of reacting against a pandemic?

ArMaP


If what you say about normal Flu death rates Verses comparing to Covid 19 ones we have had so far...

If normal ones mainly world wide are relative to their populations scales and sizes...

Then it may well be that all Countries have well over reacted on all of this and we have been well and truly conned and misled and had parts of our lifes taken away .

[astr0144]

Just a quick update on some of the USA stock market main indices such as the Dow Jones , S&P 500 and  Nasdaq.100

On the Nasdaq , it appears to have recovered quite well so far since the large decline into March 20th... it has been back up over 70 % of its recent past declines and the S&P500  (or also known as SPX ) has been back upto 66%.... with the Dow having recovered at one stage to over 50%.

Looking at the Nadaq and SPX I would like to think there is a fair chance it could soon get back up to levels before the crash.

which would seem quite amazingly incredible if it does  in such a short time... considering we are now being told to expect severe problems from the effects of the CV 19 Virus...

I think if the market hold up into next week i they have a good chance or a full recovery...if I had to take a quick analysis of whatI se of the charts..







http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11476.msg150218#msg150218

[spacemaverick]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WS0sN8ijWroS/

Hey Kevin;  5 G what do you think?

[kevin]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WS0sN8ijWroS/

Hey Kevin;  5 G what do you think?

It played for a short while then froze.

Here's hoping that Your president has the balls to really stand up to this enemy.
It's the most cunning of enemies possible.

Kevin

[kevin]

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Kevin

[kevin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_TYt7icIo&fbclid=IwAR0Wge3tWUcE89HyjIdodsnxwZVr9MxtfTz0CBaFjLKF6qd-5YIJkylqeQM

He is what I consider as an American, in the land of the free.

Kevin

[ArMaP]

I have not really studied the history of Vaccines over centuries.. and mainly are only aware of them in more modern times.. so how they may compare I dont really know. in terms of any or the  positive or negitive effects .

I can only really comment on what witnessed from Alex Jones and some of his associates educational views on it that I have watched online.

That's the problem, those "educational" views that are one sided and based on specific situations that go wrong and ignoring the good.

It may well be in some cases some Vaccines are OK and work positivly to help us and do not cause any real problems.

No, all vaccines are OK, otherwise they wouldn't be accepted, as they have to be tested like all other medicines.

but some of things that I seem to recall AJ talking about are the use of mercury in them that can cause us problems and side effects..as well as shortening our life span and causing some cancers.

The presence of Mercury in some vaccines is a result of using a preservative to allow for a longer shelf life for the vaccines, thiomersal. Vaccines themselves do not have Mercury.
Anyway, thiomersal has not been used in Vaccines in the EU for several years.

so that is some of the problems with Vaccines which I think we have discussed in some past posts at some time. if you can recall some of the points that I have indicated.

The problem with vaccines is not really a problem with vaccines, vaccines are mostly safe.

but on some occasions it was suggested that some vaccines had been including really concerning other things within them that was suggested to be very bad for us but they still tried to fool us to accept them as being OK to take.

"Suggested" doesn't mean it's true.

if I recall maybe on one maybe swine or bird Flu and H1 / N1 that also included some other part of the vaccine for some other issues that had been found to cause a lot of cancer and many other health related issues.

https://www.prisonplanet.com/h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-insert-admits-it-causes-guillain-barre-syndrome-vasculitis-paralysis-anaphylactic-shock-and-death.html

All medicines have side effects, the fact that they include the list of possible side effects is a proof they are not hiding it.
One thing they say on the inserts is how common or rare are the side effects, and the worse described on that list appear as very rare, which means less than one case in 10,000 people inoculated.

I can only suspect that it has been at some stage a easier way to get the public to accept as some forms of treatment to what may had been some designed intentional virus to say shorten our life if say for eg they aimed to either do some tests on the masses or help reduce populations in some way.

Why would they want to shorten our lives? To have less people creating wealth? What would "they" gain from it?

that does seem a LOT for a warmer country..for just general Flu... but overall your CV 19 seems relatively low.. although you have a lower population maybe in comparision.. or maybe not if per million !

Portugal has a warmer weather, but it changes frequently and very rapidly, so many people catch colds and flu. And yes, Portugal has a relatively low death rate by CoViD-19, specially when compared with our Spanish neighbours. One of the reasons appears to be the fact that all political parties decided to not make this a political problem and all acted together, so we didn't waste time with political discussions, like happened in Spain.

I agree that You would think Drs should take a moral oath and maybe most do... but I suspect a certain % may not
fully comply...

Some I'm sure don't care, but the ones I know they almost all care about the people more than about government orders.

Alex Jones has made many a comment about Govt type Scientist sideing with Govt and I assume that also includes medical type ones who are also Doctors..

You shouldn't accept all Alex Jones (or anyone else) says without verifiable proof.

I would more than likely say that they probly do already exist ... as I thin Nano techology has now become much more commonly used or will soon be so..

as to how they may work in the way you refer to... I am not sure but you may be right and I maybe wrong !

Nano technology exists, but I don't think it's advanced enough to be used as you were suggesting, as they would need a much more complex chip and a way of powering it. A simple, mostly passive chip like RFID chips is one thing, but a chip that can "work" needs more power, some sensors and actuators.

Whatyou say maybe correct.. but if they have a positive proven overall method... why should that not becoem a standard method or procedure...like the use of say British Standards maybe used in many Countries for various things.

There isn't a proven method because things are not equal in all countries, they have to be adapted to each specific situation.

If what you say about normal Flu death rates Verses comparing to Covid 19 ones we have had so far...

If normal ones mainly world wide are relative to their populations scales and sizes...

Then it may well be that all Countries have well over reacted on all of this and we have been well and truly conned and misled and had parts of our lifes taken away .

We haven't been conned because we (or at least I ) were not told that this had a huge mortality rate. The biggest problem with CoViD-19 is how fast it spreads, creating a flood of people needing medical attention and in some cases more complex ICU treatment.
If the disease reaches a point where there are more sick people than available hospital beds then the health system starts to go down, with hospitals not being able to respond to the surge in demand. That then affects doctors and nurses, as they have to work more hours than they can, so mistakes become more common and the probability of doctors and nurses getting sick increases.
Also, lack of hospital resources affects people with other health problems, so if someone has a heart attack and goes to the hospital they will find it a complete mess, with no beds available and overworked staff.
The whole idea behind the lockdowns was to slow the rate at which CoViD-19 spreads, to give the health system time to react.
It worked in Portugal, as we don't have that many cases or deaths per day but the slowing down is slower than on other countries, where everything happened faster.

PS: Portugal, being a poorer country, doesn't have many ICU beds, that was our biggest problem, as we reached more than 80% occupancy at the start of the pandemic, but now we are below 50.