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ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on May 08, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_TYt7icIo&fbclid=IwAR0Wge3tWUcE89HyjIdodsnxwZVr9MxtfTz0CBaFjLKF6qd-5YIJkylqeQM

He is what I consider as an American, in the land of the free.
A police officer that doesn't understand why they are told to arrest people that do not follow the rules is a little strange.  ::)

PS: here in Portugal the police has only orders to arrest the worst cases, like infected people that decide to get out of the hospital and walk about without any protection, the police's work in this situation has been more about counselling than enforcing the rules.

astr0144

#466
ArMaP..

I will try to answer some of your points when I can ... but I know somethings we have discussed before and maybe still
have either not fully convinced each other or more inbred type views that we may still continue to consider even after discussions that we still sometimes tend to state or repeat again .  (Some things just being human nature)

But I have made a related post to some others points I have further considered or raised .

The thing is sometimes... no matter what we may say or suggest or points .. theres usually an alternative no matter what ! No matter what view points one may take at the time... and then sometimes we says similar things again and may make a differing comment or view point...  (Again often just human nature)

and somethings are just sometimes just awkward for some to try to explain or its somewhat seen as too time consuming to do a good enough job.

I think yourself at times go above and beyond the majority  in various ways, that most of us will not are are unable to do in valid enough detail.

ArMaP
QuoteThat's the problem, those "educational" views that are one sided and based on specific situations that go wrong and ignoring the good.


I just tried to go thru this thread from the start  (just as a quickish type scan ) to try to to aborb and gain a bit more understanding what has been wrote...

and to try to find out a bit more about when the 5 G / 60 Hz theory started to try to gain further undertanding and to
see what others members thoughts on it have been.

and I have to say... it is a combination of quite a few things with what may seem like some very intellegent content along with very disturbing material. that Could explode my head !

Trying to conclude so far on my attempts on trying to absorb some of this...
I will probably need several further reads just to try to make some valid judgement.

In many cases ... the less knowledable or intellegent hope that those who know more and are more knowledgabele and aware.. then it maybe we tend to accept or consider certain things with not always being to judge some things one way or another..or it takes a LOT of time and research and learning to try to make decisions that could be proven..

and I really dont think a large majority of people are able to this...
and maybe its only a set few that can try to judge better on more complex issues...

Some things I noted along the way...

Several videos seem to have now disappeared...
(Maybe Youtube or other websites have deleted them or maybe moderators have )

There has been quite a few comments or questions raised and some repeated...(which always will happen on forums)
and yet some I THINK have also been recently brought up again even at later stages in the thread.
Such as for eg.. Things like ...  the issue behind vaccines... that as far as I recall have been discussed several times
before Covid 19... and Issues / comments from Conspircists like Alex Jones..

who makes comments about the likes of Bill Gates... and the suggestions that have been made about his agenda.

I am curious now.. if ArMaP who has at least ( maybe a few  )  now watched some videos...
where as far as I know... some has had Bill Gates making making his comments out right.
I am still not sure if he has any real views on him or is still sceptical ?

If I recall (without  adding refs to it)... He made some comments earlier in this thread in ref to Bill Gates..
and also later when I recently have made some posts mentioning Gates... he questioned me about him again.
and my impression was he still did not really go along with the negative comments I made in ref to B.G or accept them.

Does he see any evidence to support he indicates an evil agenda taking place ? or does maybe he think what Gates maybe be saying is for the best for us or the public masses ?

My view is quite often ArMaP wants to see the best or positive views on people or organisations..biz or companys. be it from suggested experts..or Drs / Scientist..politictions and that he maybe does not believe that some could have bad intentions.

I think many of us are brought up often to believe most such people should be trusted ...

since being online and looking into things like we discuss on this forum along with Conspiracy websites etc.
I think many of us end up  then being flooded with a lot of negative stuff...of which in many cases...eventually I think we just often do start to believe many of them ...

and after a certain time... we get so used to accepting that they may well be right...
so for eg... why would the Govt or who ever want to reduce the population...
Why would they Kill us off etc...

As things have changed so much since say WW 2 ... technology wise... things are quite incredible..
but how much better off are the majority  when we see the way that the employment situation has become.
and how technology has probably take away more jobs than its created at least so far.
and we have an ageing population...that they claim is causing so many problems...
if it is down to economics and money... then who knows what the Doctors and Scientist may now have to consider.
and what may or may not do or inform us about.

The way I see it... We all in some way or other are controlled by someone who is either superior to us..be it cleverer, stronger.. more knowledgable, richer etc...

and we are all at differing levels..
At School if I recall.... when they have what we called Grammer Schools and an 11 plus exam at age of 11..
Those who passed the 11 plus went to grammer School and and often became the leaders...but only 25 % pass to do so.

Then above this level there are other schools.. that  the clever can be given the chance to do another exam that is a higher level and so on.
So those people .. generally do better in Life, get the better jobs and deal with life better and MAYBE easier at to a set degree... (BUT also do more difficult things that the majority can NOT do..)

So often these are the people we often put our trust and faith in ? or believe...
But when the likes of us members who study a certain ammount of things...

we no doubt doubt become at least a bit more knowledgable than most (at least I think we may believe or hope so..
but unfortunately that is not always the case  ??? myself included .. as some things we can a have mental blocks or bad memory , lack of intake and / or  understanding in enough detail or what ever.. etc etc)

So its just so hard for most to really be able to make real judgements esp on the complex stuff..
and thats why we look up to others who we think or believe may know better...

and it takes a lot of time often to observe someone... like Alex Jones for eg... to try and determine if whats he tells us is  likely the truth or not...

I will agree in my early days... I KNEW very little and like many we all start somewhere..
and its only if get on a forum like this.. that you can get some other valid or valuable comparison views from others who have similar interest.

I also have to ask ArMaP  and others who may still question it...
Have many who has been on this thread... had any change of views on 5 G and Kevs 60 HZ theories ?

On another basic attempt to look into what Kev says... Do I think its possible ?
I am no where near as educated in Science as some on here.. but

I and I know others have been aware of many a thing in relation to Mind Control.. other things that can be effected by
Electro magnetic waves etc ...

So I could not as yet disagree that the theory could not be truth... but then again I cannot prove it..
and probably most of us are in that position. but some of you do have more education and understanding in these areas.

So I am trying to find out if others may have made alternative views on he theory ?



astr0144

#467
I ran out of time  adding this to my last post..


In ref to ArMaP again and Alex Jones and Bill Gates..

The link that I posted the other day... I managed to take a quick look at the first few mins.

and A.J shows a video of an interview of Bill Gates where he is taking about vaccines and some of the related things that we are led to believe he has discussed..

it seems as if the video has been taken down and A.Js channel closed down .


I wonder if there is another website with it on... (many are just links to his removed website )

A.J had his youtube channel taken down some months / years ago... I wonder how long he has his recent one up
before its been removed... I suspect quite sometime... so why its removed NOW I wonder...

How serious is his channel to the authorities... No doubt .. Quite severe !


(Did anyone manage to watch it or some of it  at all... and do you have any comments on it if you thought that there was anything worth mentioning ...or that you have views on it ?)

I dont know if you did take a quick browsse of it.. but if you have or had..
Then my initial thoughts on it was Gates comments did seem quite threatening to us all.
and he was seeming to be acting like Big brother and dictating to us what we can and cannot do.or what may be..

Now in my opinion... he could have said some of this in a much toned down way to put his points across and not seemed like the school bully.

That to me does make me think hes a threat !


or does it take an authority figure to dictate to as an opinion would you maybe think if you believe what he may be doing is to ensure we do as he says in that it maybe for the best for
us !

Bill Gates Announces World Government Will Forcibly Inoculate Entire Planet - FULL SHOW /6/20

https://banned.video/watch?id=5eb3369ab92746003a078a83


If either Alex Jones or Bill Gates is misleading us ... what are the consequencies ?

Who do we trust ? and whos view or is there alternatives ?

                      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The other thing that Id like to consider..

is If there is such variable technology that can use Electro magnetic type waves..

I suspect that there could be several other ways that they could either effect severely in some ways or destroy us..

so does it really need the Virus / vaccines theories... or is this just the best way they can go about it without raising
any more than would be considered or accepted  reasoning.... that would therefore be less obvious or questionable 
as to the reasons behind it...

In other words is this a way to give us the best acceptable excuse ?
But is it really the best most effective way ?

How quick is it aimed to occur and to what depth ? How severe ? what % of population .

Alex jones used to claim he had a book he somehow obtained.. that gave a plan as to how they planed to do things?
He has always mentioned vaccines since I followed him maybe 10 yrs....but I am not sure hes has ever mentioned this particular virus before...

so  if the virus is not genuine ..was this created in advance or how how much may they have already been doing in other ways.... How do we know they have not been killing people in Hospitals in other ways for some years or messing with
peoples other medications ?

The Food and drink theories have occurred Since A. Jones early days..but that seems a slower life shortening method..
rather than a quicker kill..

kevin

astr0144,

Excellent deductions and reasonings.

A story.....

Akin to the Trojan horse story where the Greeks could not defeat the city of Troy even after ten years of surrounding the city and trying everything to defeat troy.

This story is now replicated with computer virus.

Then think of the covid 19 as the horse, left by the greeks as they sailed away apparently giving up.

The people of Troy wheeled the great horse into the city as a trophy, but hidden carefully within this horse are highly trained super soldiers waiting their chance at night fall to emerge and defeat the cities defences.

Fast forward to the here and now, and view these scum bags some call elites as the potential invaders and killers of humanity.
They have tried and tried for years to reduce the worlds population with all kinds of attacks, but our inbuilt DEFENSE ( immune) system has repelled all efforts.
But they develop a technology that the vast majority of humans love and carry with them, addicted to this technology.

They surround the whole planet with this technology and it's weapons are not visible, hidden within the normally semi safe super technology are the super soldier killer force, only to be deployed when humans are entrapped in prison ( cruise ships), the human defense system weakens as we age, and the cruise ships are populated with rich aged.

The virus is released in a location where Your super killer technology goes to work ( Wuhan) and it is DECLARED AS THE KILLER.

tHIS IS REPEATED ON THE CRUISE SHIPS WHERE THE PERFECT IMPRISONED SITUATION OCCURS AND THE AGED FALL LIKE FLIES, AGAIN THE VIRUS IS DECLARED AS THE KILLER AND MASS PANIC BEGINS WITH A GLOBAL RESPONSE OF IMPRISONMENT FOR HUMANS.

FEAR GRIPS  MANY( AND THIS REDUCES OUR DEFENSES SYSTEM)

The deaths are not tested, and the hospitals financially rewarded for declaring death to covid just on symptons.

All the time this is going on more and more super killers are deployed about the globe, whilst the fear filled stay in prison fearing the wrong enemy.

Wearing masks that will do far more harm to the wearer as any rejected myriad of virus are reinhaled.

As the super killers are not visible anyone suggesting they are responsible is ridiculed, any attempt to debate or divulge such is removed and ridiculed, and the fear filled masses turn on the ones trying to point out the non visible as been the real killer, and it will be then able to really kill it's chosen targets at will when more and more people contract the virus after been injected with it.


Cerberus has escaped its underground cage as the GATES of hell have enabled this.

It's a story that repeats over time, and the people are always caught out.

To the victor, the history.

Kevin


kevin

#469
Look at the peaks on a graph in this link relative to O2 and H2O.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
Then think of what You are made of.

The cruise ships were fitted with Medallion net, they are the big white balls on top of the ships, and they are operating with both the medium orbit satellites and the fixed geo orbit satellites, part of the cruise ships advertising was how wonderful this was, that the ship was bathed in 5g and passengers were even given free 5g phones.

But the trick is in the peaks of transmission band that is variable, outside of those peaks is less interaction with oxygen.

Thus it is easily turned into a targeted weapon system, which has been perfected for years in war situations and in crowd control.







Kevin




astr0144

#470
Hi Kevin,

Thks for your further posts / comments.

If what your telling us is the truth... its amazing what you have learned or discovered..
on what to me would be quite a challenging set of subjects of science and engineering.

Not to mention how you have studied how they maybe going about things.

In ref to some of the things about the virus.. in the early stages I did not really take too much notice like I am sure most of us did not... so although I seem to recall somethings about the Cruise ships... I did not think too much about it or really know what was going on or the main facts.

Now I am going to have to investigate this further !  ???

But it reminds me of the Kingsman Film... where people are given a Free Sim for their Mobile phones.
which are designed to later explode and kill its users..

seems maybe a similar comparision...Now if they are at it this, it is part of their ploy.. along with the Spectre Bond Movie...with can now be seen as possible reality ...

Interesting comparison story  Troy / trojon horse V or = s :  Covid 19.

This is no doubt one of the issues is its hidden or hard to detect and if created by design with bad intentions..which they can cover up..or continue with varied excuses etc... Majority of us know no different..

but even if we do know.... is it now too late or can anything still be done.

Those who maybe in the know and did want to try to expose it..with a risk to do so.. would need to be able to go about in in some unique clever way...and not risk the wrong exposure ...
or some just may want to avoid it with their associates.. family friends etc if they know its possible.
but can we escape ... or only if one has the money to do so and ways around the system with a place to disappear to.

No doubt there are still some places that would be better than staying in the main major countries..where authority is or could be more rife.

I wonder where the best places would be to have best chance to avoid for the average person.. if such a place exists  would be possible to escape to without being rich . Depending upon a persons circumstances..

It would be tempting to disappear for a year or so to weigh up what occurs and also avoid any of the real potential problems that could soon follow...

The main problem we mayhave now is how much time have we got... ?
and WOULD you sell your House of such a thing if you could obtain money to find a way out...

or for eg if you believed that the Stock market was going to crash...this year..
would you sell your house or make such types of committments...to either avoid losses in our assets or property.

because I think I see this as one of those type of situations..
like the recent decline in the markets we just had...

maybe being aware of something that may do and what you believe will do..
is a HUGE commitment  to make a judgement on...

(Although some major Stk market Indexs (Nasdaq / S&P500) have recovered quite well in a very fast time so far which I cannot easily believe)... I dont recall ever seeing markets behave as they just have ..If they do continue back up..even to ne highs...could it still even have a 2nd attempt down... or is the reality thing are now better as they maybe suggesting to us in terms of a economic recovery... But you have Low Oil prices... and the concerns of currencies..
which may make it hard to really judge...

If one really believe this to be the threat that is likely to occur...
what plans could you still take if any..

or has the majority now missed the boat ?

They have locked down the country and trying to suggest that you dont sell your house !
but there may still be ways !

How far is one willing to act on this ?

or do we only go along and await to see what fate brings which usually most of us just do !
as things to require too much effort...especially when your older..

or people have just become too set in their ways..and its very hard to break the mode..
as we have all been mind controlled , softened and brainwashed for so long.


Cerberus

In Greek mythology, Cerberus (/ˈsɜːrbərəs/;[2] Greek: Κέρβερος Kérberos [ˈkerberos]), often referred to as the hound of Hades, is a multi-headed dog that guards the gates of the Underworld to prevent the dead from leaving. Cerberus was the offspring of the monsters Echidna and Typhon, and is usually described as having three heads, a serpent for a tail, and snakes protruding from multiple parts of his body. Cerberus is primarily known for his capture by Heracles, one of Heracles' twelve labours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus

astr0144

#471
This is from  the GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL as described in the video...in ref to our rights or non rights during
epidemics..

which the presenter says have VERY recently (April ) been ammended that probably most of us was not aware of.

Im not sure if this is the exact same page or if Ive misjudged it.. but its probably a similar page if one searchs.

I am a bit over tired after trying to catch up on this stuff and may need to get some sleep...


https://www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/confidentiality---disclosing-information-about-serious-communicable-diseases/disclosing-information-about-serious-communicable-diseases

QuoteIn our guidance Confidentiality: good practice in handling patient information we say:

1. Trust is an essential part of the doctor patient relationship and confidentiality is central to this. Patients may avoid seeking medical help, or may under- report symptoms, if they think their personal information will be disclosed by doctors without consent, or without the chance to have some control over  the timing or amount of information shared.

17. You must disclose information if it is required by statute, or if you are ordered to do so by a judge or presiding officer of a court.

18. You should satisfy yourself that the disclosure is required by law and you should only disclose information that is relevant to the request. Wherever practicable, you

62.You should ask for a patient's consent to disclose information for the protection of others unless the information  is required by law or it is not safe, appropriate or practicable to do so1. You should consider any reasons given for refusal.

64. If it is not practicable or appropriate to seek consent, and in exceptional cases where a patient has refused consent, disclosing personal information may be justified in the public interest if failure to do so may expose others to a risk of death or serious harm. The benefits to an individual or to society of the disclosure must outweigh both the patient's and the public interest in keeping the information confidential.

67. Before deciding whether disclosure would be justified in the public interest you should consider whether it is practicable or appropriate to seek consent (see paragraph 14). You should not ask for consent if you have already decided to disclose information in the public interest but you should tell the patient about your intention to disclose personal information, unless it is not safe or practicable to do so. If the patient objects to the disclosure you should consider any reasons they give for objecting.

68. When deciding whether the public interest in disclosing information outweighs the patient's and the public interest in keeping the information confidential, you must consider:

    the potential  harm or distress to the patient arising from the disclosure – for example, in terms of their future engagement with treatment and their overall health
    the potential harm to trust in doctors generally – for example, if it is widely perceived that doctors will readily disclose information about patients without consent
    the potential harm to others (whether to a specific person or people, or to the public more broadly) if the information is not disclosed
    the potential benefits to an individual or to society arising from the release of the information
    the nature of the information to be disclosed, and any views expressed by the patient
    whether the harms can be avoided or benefits gained without breaching the patient's privacy or, if not, what is the minimum intrusion.

If you consider that failure to disclose the information would leave individuals or society exposed to a risk so serious that it outweighs the patient's and the public interest in maintaining confidentiality, you should disclose relevant information promptly to an appropriate person or authority.
About this guidance
2

Confidentiality is important to all patients and all patients are entitled to good standards of care, regardless of what disease they might  have, or how they acquired it. Those who have, or may have, a serious communicable disease2 might be particularly concerned about their privacy. This explanatory guidance sets out how the general principles in our guidance Confidentiality apply when doctors are accessing, using or disclosing information about the infection status of patients who have serious communicable diseases.
Protecting information against improper disclosure
3

You should make sure that information you hold or control about a patient's infection status is at all times effectively protected against improper disclosure. If you disclose information about a patient's infection status, you must keep disclosures to the minimum necessary for the purpose.
Control and surveillance of serious communicable diseases
4

You must pass information about notifiable diseases to the relevant authorities for communicable disease control and surveillance. Different diseases are notifiable in different UK countries and the reporting arrangements differ. You should follow the arrangements where you work.3 You should disclose anonymised information if practicable and as long as it will serve the purpose.
Protecting patients from risks posed by your health or your colleagues' health
5

Good medical practice4 says:

28. If you know or suspect that you have a serious condition that you could pass on to patients, or if your judgement or performance could be affected by a condition or its treatment, you must consult a suitably qualified colleague. You must follow their advice about any changes to your practice they consider necessary. You must not rely on your own assessment of the risk to patients.

29. You should be immunised against common serious communicable diseases (unless otherwise contraindicated).
6

You should follow our guidance Raising and acting on concerns about patient safety if you are concerned that a colleague who has a serious communicable disease is practising, or has practised, in a way that puts patients at risk of infection5. You should inform your colleague before passing the information on, as long as it is practicable and safe to do so.
Disclosing information about patients who are diagnosed with a serious communicable disease to those providing direct care
7

Most patients understand and expect that relevant information must be shared within the direct care team to provide their care. If a patient objects to disclosure of personal information that you are convinced is essential to provide them with safe care, you should follow the guidance at paragraphs 30 - 31 of Confidentiality. If the patient does not have capacity to make the decision, you can disclose information if it is in their overall benefit, in line with the guidance at paragraphs 48 - 49 of Confidentiality.
8

If a patient who has been diagnosed with a serious communicable disease refuses to allow you to tell others providing their care about their infection status, and you believe that failing to disclose the information will put healthcare workers or other patients at risk of infection, you should explain to the patient the potential consequences of their decision and consider with the patient whether any compromise can be reached.
9

Like everyone else, healthcare workers are entitled to protection from risks of serious harm. But disclosure of information about a patient's infection status without consent is unlikely to be justified if it would make no difference to the risk of transmission  – for example, if the risk is likely to be managed through  the use of universal precautions that are already in place.6 If the patient continues to refuse to allow you to tell other members of the healthcare team about their infection status, you must abide by their wishes unless you consider that disclosing the information is necessary to protect healthcare workers or other patients from a risk of death or serious harm.
Disclosing information in response to injuries to colleagues and others
10

If a colleague, police officer or anyone else suffers a needlestick or similar injury involving a patient  who has, or may have, a serious communicable disease, you should make sure that a risk assessment is made urgently by an appropriately qualified colleague. Post-exposure prophylaxis should be offered in accordance with that risk assessment, depending on the type of body fluid or substance involved and the route and severity of the exposure.7
11

You should ask for the patient's consent to disclose their infection status after other people have been exposed to a serious communicable disease. If the patient cannot be persuaded to consent to disclosure, or if it is not safe or practicable to ask for their consent, you may disclose information if it is justified in the public interest. This could be, for example, if the information is needed for decisions about the continued appropriateness of post-exposure prophylaxis. You should follow the guidance on disclosing information in the public interest at paragraphs 63 - 70 of Confidentiality.
Informing people at risk of infection from serious communicable disease
12

You should explain to patients who have serious communicable diseases how they can protect others from infection, including from sexually transmitted diseases. This includes the practical measures they can take to avoid transmission, and the importance of informing people with whom they have sexual contact about the risk of sexual transmission of serious communicable diseases.
13

You may disclose information to a person who has close contact with a patient who has a serious communicable  disease if you have reason to think that:

    the person is at risk of infection that is likely to result in serious harm
    the patient has not informed them and cannot be persuaded to do so.

14

If you believe that an adult who is at risk of infection lacks capacity to understand this information, and is at risk of serious harm, you must give relevant information promptly to an appropriate responsible person or authority, unless it is not of overall benefit to the patient to do so (see paragraphs 55 - 56 of Confidentiality).
15

You should tell the patient before you disclose the information if it is practicable and safe to do so. When you are tracing and notifying people, you should not disclose the identity  of the patient, if practicable. You must be prepared to justify a decision to disclose personal information without consent.8
Disclosing information when children and young people are at risk of a serious communicable disease
16

Most patients with a serious communicable disease who are parents of, or care for, children will do all they can to protect the children from the risk of infection or the effects of the disease. You should make sure the patient understands the information and advice you give them, which you should tailor to their needs. You should do all you reasonably can to support them in caring for themselves and in protecting their children.
17

You should explain to a patient with a serious communicable disease the importance of testing any children who may already be infected, including children without symptoms and young people who might have been vertically infected with a blood-borne virus.
18

If you are concerned that a child is at risk of serious harm because their parents cannot be persuaded to protect them from the risk of infection, or because they refuse to allow the child to be tested, you should treat it as a safeguarding concern and follow the advice in our guidance Protecting children and young people: the responsibilities of all doctors.9
Recording serious communicable diseases on death certificates
19

If a serious communicable disease has contributed to the cause of death, you must record this on the patient's death certificate.


Quote from: kevin on May 05, 2020, 08:58:23 AM


If You don.'t have vaccine they will force You to have it.

With the ability to take all your possessions and home and destroy it.

Land of the free????

Kevin

kevin

astr0144,

With reference to your question of where to ride out this storm as such.
With what our admired armap displays on here and Myself having portuguese friends,
I find the portuguese to be high empathy human beings, with moral and ethics to admire.


Kevin


ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on May 09, 2020, 03:05:54 AM
I will try to answer some of your points when I can ... but I know somethings we have discussed before and maybe still
have either not fully convinced each other or more inbred type views that we may still continue to consider even after discussions that we still sometimes tend to state or repeat again .  (Some things just being human nature)
I'm not here to convince anyone, I just try to make people understand my point of view (which I, obviously, think is closer to the truth, otherwise I would have preferred a different one), as the thing I hate the most is lies, as people use lies to control other people.

QuoteI think yourself at times go above and beyond the majority  in various ways, that most of us will not are are unable to do in valid enough detail.
Thanks. :)

QuoteIn many cases ... the less knowledable or intellegent hope that those who know more and are more knowledgabele and aware.. then it maybe we tend to accept or consider certain things with not always being to judge some things one way or another..or it takes a LOT of time and research and learning to try to make decisions that could be proven..

and I really dont think a large majority of people are able to this...
and maybe its only a set few that can try to judge better on more complex issues...
Everyone can judge about any matter, if they have enough information about it, that's why dictators control access to information, as information really is power.
But, not having the information doesn't mean people aren't intelligent enough to make a decision, it means only that they didn't get as much information as others, so if they can get access to the same information they will be in an equal footing with the others.

QuoteSeveral videos seem to have now disappeared...
(Maybe Youtube or other websites have deleted them or maybe moderators have )
Or the channel owners deleted them, that's also a possibility.

Quoteand my impression was he still did not really go along with the negative comments I made in ref to B.G or accept them.
You're right, I don't go along with the "evil Gates" theory. :)

QuoteDoes he see any evidence to support he indicates an evil agenda taking place ? or does maybe he think what Gates maybe be saying is for the best for us or the public masses ?
I haven't seen any thing that points to a possible evil agenda from on in which Bill Gates takes part.

QuoteMy view is quite often ArMaP wants to see the best or positive views on people or organisations..biz or companys. be it from suggested experts..or Drs / Scientist..politictions and that he maybe does not believe that some could have bad intentions.
I do (for people, organisations are a different thing), because, from what I have seen in my 57 years of living on this planet, most people are good, or at least they are only bad to people they personally know and for who they have something against.

QuoteI think many of us are brought up often to believe most such people should be trusted ...
That's part of the problem, people should be trusted by their actions, not because they had a better life that allowed them to spend more time at school and get a degree or because they appear to be more intelligent than others.

Quotesince being online and looking into things like we discuss on this forum along with Conspiracy websites etc.
I think many of us end up  then being flooded with a lot of negative stuff...of which in many cases...eventually I think we just often do start to believe many of them ...
That's the problem with negativity, negative opinions are "louder" than positive, so they grab more people's attentions, and, like someone once said, a lie repeated many times becomes truth (it doesn't, but many people accept it as truth just because it's said many times).
Sometimes, positive opinions are even considered as a sign of weakness, as dismissed.
Another thing, just in the same way we shouldn't accept what someone says just because they are famous/rich/knowledgeable in one or more areas/whatever, we also shouldn't be automatically against that person.

QuoteAs things have changed so much since say WW 2 ... technology wise... things are quite incredible..
but how much better off are the majority  when we see the way that the employment situation has become.
and how technology has probably take away more jobs than its created at least so far.
and we have an ageing population...that they claim is causing so many problems...
if it is down to economics and money... then who knows what the Doctors and Scientist may now have to consider.
and what may or may not do or inform us about.
As you said above, we (the so called Western countries) have an ageing population, result of better life conditions leading to a longer life. So, if we have an ageing, non productive population, why would the government/whoever wanted to reduce the population in those countries? If they reduce the population then they will gather less taxes, and, for those that really are only looking for power over people will have less people to control.
That's why I think the idea of population reduction in "Western countries" doesn't make sense, and I also have yet to see an explanation for it that makes sense.

QuoteThe way I see it... We all in some way or other are controlled by someone who is either superior to us..be it cleverer, stronger.. more knowledgable, richer etc...
and we are all at differing levels..
Only because we think they are above us. They really aren't. :)

QuoteAt School if I recall.... when they have what we called Grammer Schools and an 11 plus exam at age of 11..
Those who passed the 11 plus went to grammer School and and often became the leaders...but only 25 % pass to do so.

Then above this level there are other schools.. that  the clever can be given the chance to do another exam that is a higher level and so on.
So those people .. generally do better in Life, get the better jobs and deal with life better and MAYBE easier at to a set degree... (BUT also do more difficult things that the majority can NOT do..)
Being able to continuing studying until getting a degree (for example) is not a sign that they are better than the rest, it's only a sign that they were able to do it while others were not.
For example, my elder sister was a secondary school teacher some years ago, and in one school there were students from a poor area, one of them had serious troubles learning because she was almost always drunk (she was 13 or 14, something like that), because in her home they didn't have money to buy enough food. How can someone in those conditions, even if intelligent, finish school and get a degree? Everything was against her. Also, it's a known fact that lacking good nutrition while growing up prevents people from reaching full development, both physical and mental, so people from poor backgrounds have always trouble in school and, because of that, cannot get high paying jobs and their families keep on living on conditions that do not allow them to get out of the vicious circle.

[/quote]I also have to ask ArMaP  and others who may still question it...
Have many who has been on this thread... had any change of views on 5 G and Kevs 60 HZ theories ?[/quote]
No, none, as I haven't seen any verifiable evidence of what is being proposed, while it's a fact that 60 GHz frequencies have been in use for several decades.

QuoteSo I am trying to find out if others may have made alternative views on he theory ?
He's theory as an alternative view of what is being presented by what we are seeing: a pandemic created by a virus that was already seen, photographed, filmed and studied by many people.

Ellirium113

QuoteI also have to ask ArMaP  and others who may still question it...
Have many who has been on this thread... had any change of views on 5 G and Kevs 60 HZ theories ?

I believe there is an agenda of some sort being taken advantage of, maybe not so much planned from the start. I still do not believe this has anything to do with 5G... HOWEVER I do think 5G will certainly be used for nefarious purposes and that they do pose a health risk to some people but I don't believe it has anything to do with this virus. From what I have been reading 5G can cause much different symptoms than what we are seeing from the virus. There is definitely some coincidental symptoms that seem to be enough of a convincing factor to some people. Still waiting for the proof.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on May 09, 2020, 05:16:37 AM
How serious is his channel to the authorities... No doubt .. Quite severe !
I think it's irrelevant, as it's just another guy with videos on the Internet. If the authorities wanted to "take care of him" it would be easy to fake a paedophilia case against him and have him discredited and locked for a few years.

QuoteThen my initial thoughts on it was Gates comments did seem quite threatening to us all.
and he was seeming to be acting like Big brother and dictating to us what we can and cannot do.or what may be..
It's easy to edit a video to make it look like what we want it to, that's why I prefer to look at the original sources.

QuoteNow in my opinion... he could have said some of this in a much toned down way to put his points across and not seemed like the school bully.

That to me does make me think hes a threat !
Do you mean he was talking in the same way Alex Jones talks, as if shouting makes it truth? ;)

QuoteIf either Alex Jones or Bill Gates is misleading us ... what are the consequencies ?
I don't know about Bill Gates, as he talks of what can be done, but I do think Alex Jones is misleading people with the things he says and how he says them.

QuoteWho do we trust ? and whos view or is there alternatives ?
I surely don't trust a snake oil salesman like Alex Jones, and I don't trust Bill Gates when he talks about things he cannot control.

QuoteIn other words is this a way to give us the best acceptable excuse ?
But is it really the best most effective way ?
Of course not, killing 300,000 people in whole world is nothing, malaria kills around 400,000 every year and nobody cares.

QuoteHow quick is it aimed to occur and to what depth ? How severe ? what % of population .
0.004% of the world's population has died from CoViD-19 until today.

Quoteso  if the virus is not genuine ..was this created in advance or how how much may they have already been doing in other ways.... How do we know they have not been killing people in Hospitals in other ways for some years or messing with
peoples other medications ?
People usually have families and friends, how many do you know that have had a strange death?

QuoteThe Food and drink theories have occurred Since A. Jones early days..but that seems a slower life shortening method..
rather than a quicker kill..
That's what he says to sell that food stuff he is constantly promoting.

PS: see if this is the missing video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CqCnABV38omI/

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on May 09, 2020, 08:58:01 AM
Fast forward to the here and now, and view these scum bags some call elites as the potential invaders and killers of humanity.
They have tried and tried for years to reduce the worlds population with all kinds of attacks, but our inbuilt DEFENSE ( immune) system has repelled all efforts.
Why have they tried to reduced the world's population and why would they do it to the population of the richer countries, the ones using 5G?

QuoteThe deaths are not tested, and the hospitals financially rewarded for declaring death to covid just on symptons.
Once again, where is the proof of what you are saying? You are making serious accusations here, so I think you better show some evidence of what you are saying.

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on May 09, 2020, 09:23:03 AM
The cruise ships were fitted with Medallion net, they are the big white balls on top of the ships, and they are operating with both the medium orbit satellites and the fixed geo orbit satellites, part of the cruise ships advertising was how wonderful this was, that the ship was bathed in 5g and passengers were even given free 5g phones.
I can only find two cruise ships with CoViD-19 cases, "Diamond Princess" and "MS Zaandam". "Diamond Princess" had 712 cases and 13 deaths, "MS Zaandam" had 9 cases and 2 deaths.

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on May 09, 2020, 10:29:18 AM
This is from  the GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL as described in the video...in ref to our rights or non rights during
epidemics..

which the presenter says have VERY recently (April ) been ammended that probably most of us was not aware of.
I looked for the laws he was talking about and the only April amendment I found wasn't related to what he said. Unfortunately, I didn't kept the link, so I'll have a look to the one you posted.

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on May 09, 2020, 11:36:38 AM
astr0144,

With reference to your question of where to ride out this storm as such.
With what our admired armap displays on here and Myself having portuguese friends,
I find the portuguese to be high empathy human beings, with moral and ethics to admire.


Kevin
Thanks. :)