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Ellirium113

Full Putin Speech: Says Western Elites Are Responsible For Infaltion and Supply Chain Shortages
https://banned.video/watch?id=6238ba3fdfa4f00e1de6dd32

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Ellirium113

Trudeau talks of unity, tells EU to stand up to Putin
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.5694208
Vomit inducing hypocrisy warning!

ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on March 24, 2022, 01:14:54 AM
I see that it has been taken down

Could you tell us what that video is about?

micjer

The video talks about what wad found on Hunter Bidens laptop, including what was found on "deleted" files..

they found....

Disgusting Porn
Child porn
Emails that implicate many high profile folks in money laundering and tax evasion
Shows how 17 agencies (FBI, CIA, ETC) knew about this information and kept it hidden for election

Hunter is currently on trial in Delaware on tax evasion charges and MSM is not reporting
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer



I don't think JT is very welcome in Europe to tell them how to do their business.in the Ukraine war

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44842/russian-invaders-north-of-kyiv-are-mired-in-flooded-terrain

If you are interested in viewing what is happening in Ukraine there are many uploaded vids in this link
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

#116
Roman Abramovich 'suffered peeling skin, red eyes and constant crying after being poisoned.

I wonder what is going on with this in ref to Roman Abramovich the Russian Billionaire and UK Cheslsea Football club owner who had seemed Friends with Putin and had tried to negitiate past peace deals with him, who is now  claiming he has been poisioned in which they believe its from a Russian Source as has occurred in the UK in the Past to two other UK based  Russians  on at least two other occasions .

QuoteThe Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich was poisoned along with Ukrainian negotiators, it has been claimed.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the Vladimir Putin ally and Chelsea FC owner was hit by symptoms after a suspected poisoning at a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month.




Abramovich, and two senior Ukrainian officials, are said to have developed peeling skin on their faces and hands, red eyes, and constant and painful tearing, the paper reported.

Quoting 'people familiar with the matter', it added that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Abramovich, was not been affected.

The lives of the Chelsea owner – who has been sanctioned by the UK government – and two male peace negotiators are not thought to be in danger from the apparent poisoning, blamed on an 'unidentified chemical weapon'.

The incident is likely to raise serious safety questions about the continuation of peace talks between Russia and Ukraine and President Zelensky's involvement.

Experts believe the suspected attack was intended to scare its victims, rather than cause life-threatening damage.

Widespread reports have previously suggested Russian forces are attempting to assassinate Zelensky, but it is unclear who the target of the alleged poisoning was.

Roman Abramovich's peacemaker flights as he avoids sanctions Metro Graphics



Roman Abramovich's recent flights

Abramovich has previously passed a handwritten note from Zelensky to Putin and is widely believed to be acting as a go-between for the two leaders.

Russia has been widely blamed for a series of poisonings around the world, including a Novichok incident in Salisbury, the death of Putin critic Alexander Litvinenko and near fatal poisoning of opposition figure Alexei Navalny.

The investigative media group Bellingcat said the latest incident took place overnight from March 3 to 4, with three people experiencing 'symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons', including the Russian oligarch turned negotiator Abramovich.

That was ten days before he was spotted waiting for a private jet at an Israeli airport on Monday, March 14.

'Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraine's MP Rustem Umerov', Bellingcat tweeted.
Sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, March 14, 2022.
Abramovich at an Israeli airport on March 14 – ten days after the incident (Picture: Reuters)

The site said the three men had only consumed water and chocolate – while another man who ate and drank the same things did not experience symptoms.

It continued: 'The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.

'Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms – including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes – later that night.

'The symptoms did not abate until the morning.'

President Zelensky's spokesman said he had no information about any suspected poisoning, according to the WSJ.
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It cited western experts suggesting it was difficult to confirm if the symptoms were caused by a chemical or biological agent or by an electromagnetic-radiation attack.

Bellingcat claimed the most likely cause of the symptoms was an 'international poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon', adding that 'microwave irradiation' was another possible theory.

It cited two chemical weapons experts and a doctor suggesting the symptoms were 'most consistent with variants of porphyrin, organophosphates, or bicyclic substances'.

'The experts said the dosage and type of toxin used was likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage, and most likely was intended to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage', Bellingcat tweeted.

A person familiar with the matter told Reuters that Abramovich had not allowed it to stop him working.

The Kremlin has said the oligarch played an early role in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine but that the process was now in the hands of the two sides' negotiating teams.
Russia-Ukraine war: Everything you need to know

Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, the country has suffered widespread damages and loss of life amid a major bombing campaign.

Millions of people have fled the country, with thousands of British people opening up their homes to Ukrainian refugees.

Russian President Vladimir Putin hasn't shown any signs of calling off the attack anytime soon, with his spokesperson claiming that he is refusing to rule out using nuclear weapons.

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https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/28/russia-ukraine-war-roman-abramovich-poisoned-along-with-ukrainian-negotiators-16359662/#:~:text=The%20Russian%20oligarch%20Roman%20Abramovich%20was%20poisoned%20along,at%20a%20meeting%20in%20Kyiv%20earlier%20this%20month.


astr0144

#117
On the News earlier it is said that Abramovich's mother is Ukraine.. and as I mentioned he was seen as if he
had been friend or connected to Putin.

So it maybe he was trying to negotiate some sort of peace talk.

Its also suggested that he may have only been mildly poisioned as a Warning to Back off !

as they said if he would have been fully poisoned, he would have ended up deseased !
This is another related article with some other opinions.

Roman Abramovich 'was the TARGET of peace-talk "chocolate poisoning" that left him temporarily blind and shedding skin

Attack was 'a warning not to betray the Kremlin', investigator behind shocking revelation claims
Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev said Abramovich was the poison target
He said none of the three affected were intended to die from low dosage attack
The chemical weapons hit serves as a warning to antiwar dissent, he added


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The lead investigator who exposed the poisoning of Roman Abramovich has said the chemical attack was a warning to the billionaire and others not to betray the Kremlin.

Christo Grozev, lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning which also affected two Ukrainian negotiators.

He told Times Radio: 'The dosage was not high enough to kill any of the three, the most likely target would have been Abramovich. And it kind of makes sense.

'I mean, he volunteered to play... this role of (an) honest broker, but other oligarchs had... declared certain independence from the Kremlin position and criticise(d) the war.

'So it could well be seen as a warning sign to them to not join the ranks of those who dissent, and to not be too much of an honest broker.'

Roman Abramovich was the target of a poisoning earlier this month, investigators believe. Pictured: Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 14

Roman Abramovich was the target of a poisoning earlier this month, investigators believe. Pictured: Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 14

Christo Grozev (pictured), lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning

Christo Grozev (pictured), lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning

A source close to Volodymyr Zelensky told The Financial Times: 'People became totally blind... the next day.

'We did not identify the substance. No idea who was behind [the attack] but it looks like Roman was the main target.'

Another said it was 'definitely not Novichok', adding: 'They couldn't work out who did it - the Ukrainians or the Russians.'

The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) said the poisoning attempt during peace talks in Kyiv on March 3 was 'very concerning'.

It said the UK will 'continue to assist' by implementing tough sanctions on Russian President Vladimir Putin's regime as well as by providing defensive and humanitarian support to put Ukraine 'in the strongest possible negotiating position'.

A representative for Abramovich confirmed yesterday the oligarch had suffered the reported symptoms after eating chocolate and drinking water but refused to give any further details.

The Chelsea owner as well as two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, painful streaming eyes as well as peeling skin on their faces and hands.

Abramovich, who accepted a Ukrainian request to help negotiate an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, also 'went blind for several hours' and was treated at a hospital in Turkey, a source told The Guardian.

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov (pictured) had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10 pm, investigative news site Bellingcat said

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov (pictured) had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10 pm, investigative news site Bellingcat said

Sources told the PA news agency Mr Abramovich had now recovered and was continuing to try to help with the negotiations.

It is understood the oligarch had been involved in talks about securing humanitarian corridors to allow Ukrainians to leave as well as bringing other countries to the negotiating table.

The WSJ reported it was believed the suspected attack was orchestrated by hardliners in Russia who wanted to sabotage the talks.

Asked about the allegations on BBC Newsnight, Sergiy Petukhov, the former deputy minister of justice of Ukraine, said: 'It's really hard to make any conclusions out of (the) information that we have.

'Remember previously one of the Ukrainian negotiators was murdered in Kyiv under unknown circumstances.'

He said the situation makes 'the atmosphere of the negotiations very tense and nervous, definitely not contributing to success'.

'I think we will have to wait until further information comes out to be able to reach a conclusion (on) whether it was an intentional attack on the negotiation process or something else that just happened,' he added.

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10pm according to Bellingcat.

When Roman Abramovich was pictured looking grey, thin and anxious in an Israeli airport a fortnight ago, it was assumed he was suffering in his new status as a global pariah

When Roman Abramovich was pictured looking grey, thin and anxious in an Israeli airport a fortnight ago, it was assumed he was suffering in his new status as a global pariah

The investigative news site said it had known about the suspected poisoning for some time but chose not to publicise the information 'due to concern about the safety of the victims'.

The revelation comes just days after Abramovich reportedly travelled to Poland to act as a negotiator between Putin and US President Joe Biden, who visited the Polish town of Rzeszow mere miles from the Ukrainian border last week.

Asked about the suspected poisoning, Ukrainian negotiator Mykhailo Podolyak only said: 'There is a lot of speculation, various conspiracy theories'. 

Umerov meanwhile urged people not to trust 'unverified information'.

The three members of the delegation left the talks on 3 March to an apartment in Kyiv later that night.

Whilst there, they were all suffering from eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in their eyes until the next morning. The three men had consumed only chocolate and water in the hours before the symptoms appeared.

A fourth member of the team who also consumed the same food and water did not experience symptoms.

The next day - on March 4 - Abramovich, Umerov and the other negotiator drove from Kyiv to the Ukrainian city of Lviv whilst on their way to Poland, still experiencing symptoms.

They then moved on to Istanbul, where they are believed to have received treatment before continuing negotiations.

Chemical weapons specialists and a Bellingcat investigator carried out examinations of the three men and concluded the symptoms are 'most likely the result of intentional poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon'.   

The symptoms experienced by Abramovich and the two other negotiators subsided by the end of the following week.

The Kremlin acknowledged for the first time last week that Abramovich was officially involved in early peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, but spokesman Dmitry Peskov insisted on Thursday the oligarch was no longer part of the negotiation team.

'He did take part at the initial stage,' Peskov said Thursday. 'Now the negotiations are between the two teams, the Russians and Ukrainians.'

Chemical weapons experts said the dosage and type of toxic used in the March 3 attack was 'likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage' and instead intended 'to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage'.

Sources told WSJ they blamed the suspected poisoning attack on hard-liners in Moscow who wanted to ruin talks to end the war. The victims meanwhile said they were not aware of who would have an interest in the attack. 

Roman Abramovich (left) and producer Alexander Rodnyanski (right) attend a RuArts Foundation cocktail party in Sochi, Russia, in 2017

Roman Abramovich (left) and producer Alexander Rodnyanski (right) attend a RuArts Foundation cocktail party in Sochi, Russia, in 2017

Lord Ricketts: Russia have 'morbid fascination' with poisonings

What is Bellingcat?

Bellingcat is an investigative journalism site ran by British journalist and blogger Elliot Higgins.

Higgins rose to prominence for his investigations of the Syrian Civil War in 2012 and 2013, in which he used open-source intelligence and geo-location to prove the Syrian regime's use of chemical and cluster weapons.

Off the back of his success, he launched Bellingcat in 2014, and along with a small group of fellow journalists and volunteers discovered that the MH17 disaster, which claimed the lives of 298 civilians, was caused by a Russian missile.

Higgins continued to fund Bellingcat's investigations with crowdfunding via Kickstarter, and the organisation began to expand overseas and take on more investigations.

The organisation now has roughly 20 full time staff and dozens of contributors around the world, and is funded entirely by crowdfunding, grants and revenue generated via its training programmes.

Bellingcat specialises in using open-source intelligence (OSINT) and social media research to fact-check and verify information, and provides training to journalists looking to develop their research skills. 

Higgins described Bellingcat as 'citizen investigative journalists using open source information to investigate, collaborate, and report on worldwide issues that are being under-reported and ignored'.

The Chelsea FC owner has reportedly been jetting between Istanbul, Moscow and Kyiv to relay messages between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky.

But when handed a note from the Ukrainian president outlining peace terms, the Russian despot reportedly erupted with fury.

Abramovich has been trying to rescue his reputation after being slapped with sanctions by the UK and EU over his closeness to Putin.

His assets have been frozen across Britain and the Continent and he started a fire sale of London property as well as Chelsea football club.



But his yachts and jets, which are worth hundreds of millions of pounds, remain out of bounds as they dodge sanctioned waters and airspace.

Meanwhile Zelensky reportedly pleaded with President Joe Biden for the US to hold off bringing measures against the oligarch due to his role in negotiations.   

Abramovich left Ataturk airport in Istanbul on a private Hawker 800XP jet last Wednesday, heaving across the Black Sea towards Sochi.

Its flight tracker went dark near the city of Mineralnye Vody, with the plane later popping up leaving Vnukovo airport in Moscow and returning to the Turkish capital.

The oligarch had flown in to meet Putin and hand him a handwritten note by Zelensky outlining Ukraine's peace terms position.

According to the Times, the Russian president said to the oligarch: 'Tell him I will thrash them.'

He returned to Istanbul and linked up with Ukrainian politician Rustem Umerov, who is said to be acting as Kyiv's negotiator.

They met at five-star hotels in the Turkish capital, having been set up by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's spokesman Ibrahim Kalin.

Abramovich and Umerov have visited the Ukrainian President in war-torn Kyiv after travelling on private jets routed through Warsaw, Poland.

The businessman has been flying on one owned by a Turkish firm due to his being under EU sanctions.

He is one of at least 20 oligarchs in Turkey as they toe the line between Putin and Western restrictions.

He has two of his yachts moored in Bodrum on the south west coast despite the presence of Ukrainian protesters.

Turkey has not sanctioned Abramovich and appears to have allowed him to help in the negotiations surrounding the war.

Erdogan hopes Russia and Ukraine can agree ceasefire in peace talks

Abramovich is pictured left with Putin at a meeting with top businessman in Sochi in 2016
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Abramovich is pictured left with Putin at a meeting with top businessman in Sochi in 2016

Investigative journalist: Poisoning could be a warning for Abramovich

Abramovich's luxury lifestyle is being squeezed by EU and UK sanctions - and now the US has moved to prevent his Gulfstream plane from making international flights

Abramovich's luxury lifestyle is being squeezed by EU and UK sanctions - and now the US has moved to prevent his Gulfstream plane from making international flights

Ukrainian minister: Do not eat or drink when negotiating with Russia

Insiders said he was determined to draw the war to an end after seeing the horrors in Ukraine, where his mother Irina was born.

Meanwhile another set of negotiations in Turkey were being held between the Russian and Ukrainian foreign ministers.

Sergey Lavrov and Dmytro Kuleba met in Antalya on March 10, with Turkey's foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu overseeing the chat that ultimately failed.

He also met with ex-German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder to try to broker peace with Putin earlier this month.

They are believed to have met at one of the Russian capital's luxury hotels where the former premier was staying, according to multiple sources.

The billionaire oligarch entered and left via a side door to avoid being spotted, according to German newspaper Bild.

The meeting was believed to have been in the same suite where Schröder's wife, Soyeon Schröder-Kim, prayed for peace with the Kremlin on Instagram.

The talks lasted 'several hours'  and later in the evening Schröder is said to have met with Putin at the Kremlin.

No further details were released but Reuters said an insider told them the oligarch wanted to find a way to stop the conflict.

Abramovich who is a Russian–Portuguese–Israeli billionaire, was close to the Kremlin during the reign of Boris Yeltsin.

He is said to have been the first person to recommend Putin to Yeltsin as his replacement.

Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) speaks as billionaire and businessman Roman Abramovich (L) looks on during a meeting in 2016

Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) speaks as billionaire and businessman Roman Abramovich (L) looks on during a meeting in 2016

During Putin's time in power, Abramovich was the governor of the Chukchi Autonomous Okrug for eight years.

After Russia's attack on Ukraine, the UK imposed sanctions on Abramovich, who has been the owner of Chelsea for almost 20 years since buying the club in 2004.

The west London team is now for sale and is currently under the hammer in a bidding process.

Abramovich has pledged to write off Chelsea's £1.5billion debt and the bidding frenzy for the club could see the eventual deal hit £3billion.

The Russian billionaire made his fortune buying up discounted state assets after the collapse of the Soviet Union and owns billions of pounds pf assets in the UK.

In the past month he has been hit by a string of sanctions in the UK and EU due to his close relationship with Putin, and scrambled to divest before the asset freeze hit.

It comes as Boris Johnson pledged to 'co-ordinate closely' with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky in the days ahead, reiterating the UK's commitment to strengthening economic pressure on Moscow.

Meanwhile, British defence intelligence analysts warned more than 1,000 Russian mercenaries are expected to deploy to eastern Ukraine to undertake combat operations.

In an intelligence update on Twitter, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) said Russia had 'highly likely been forced to reprioritise' personnel from the paramilitary Wagner Group, at the expense of operations in Africa and Syria, 'due to heavy losses and a largely stalled invasion'.

The Wagner Group, seen as Mr Putin's private army, was among the latest tranche of entities sanctioned by the UK Government over the Russian invasion last week.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said Mr Putin's forces were abducting Ukrainian politicians, activists and journalists as Russia failed to meet its military objectives.

She condemned the 'abhorrent tactic' following work by Ukrainian human rights group ZMINA, which claimed to have identified dozens of individuals who had been abducted, with thousands more deported to Russia.

Ms Truss said Mr Putin was resorting to 'desperate measures'.

'Putin continues to use abhorrent tactics against the Ukrainian people, including abducting innocent civilians,' she said.

'He is not achieving his objectives and is resorting to desperate measures. Putin must fail in Ukraine.'

Ms Truss, in a statement to the House of Commons, later told MPs: 'We know that Putin is not serious about talks, he is still wantonly bombing innocent citizens across Ukraine and that is why we need to do more to ensure that he loses and we force him to think again.

'We must not just stop Putin in Ukraine but we must also look to the long term. We need to ensure that any future talks don't end up selling Ukraine out or repeating the mistakes of the past.'

In their call on Monday, No 10 said Mr Zelensky provided Mr Johnson with an update on negotiations, adding that 'the two leaders agreed to co-ordinate closely in the days ahead'.

The Ukrainian president has signalled he is prepared to offer a series of concessions to Russia to end the fighting.

Ukraine could declare neutrality and offer guarantees about its non-nuclear status as part of a peace deal, Mr Zelensky suggested, but he stressed the desire to ensure the country's 'territorial integrity'.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10662651/Roman-Abramovich-TARGET-chocolate-poisoning-warning-not-betray-Kremlin.html


astr0144

#118
Two articles from Martin Armstrong,

this 1st one could be rather concerning
IF this was happen GOD Help Us !

The Doomsday Jet .

QuoteThe people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against   

Quote

The Neocons have accomplished their objective. They dethroned Trump and installed the senile president who will go down in history as the President that began World War III. His name will be remembered in infamy because it is always the president who history remembers – not the dark figures behind the curtain prodding him on every action and dragging him around by his diapers. They know the risks that have now been unleashed upon the world and the clash with the Pentagon is the only this in their way. Biden's trip to Warsaw to convince the Polish people to surrender their lives for the dreams of the American Neocons was interestingly marked by Biden flying on the "Doomsday" jet. At the same time, Biden tells the American people there is no risk of nuclear war. Their actions say differently.

There are four Doomsday Jets in the US's fleet. One is with the Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin as part of his boss's delegation meeting with NATO and European leaders. These jets are supposed to be "highly survivable" in the case of a nuclear attack and are to be "mobile Pentagons" from which they can direct nuclear war. All the American nuclear weapons can be controlled from anywhere in the world from one of these Doomsday Jets and that even includes in the middle of a nuclear attack.

Obviously, they know that pushing Russia to the brink may lead to nuclear war. They stupidly think removing Putin will somehow cause Russia to collapse into the arms of the West. NEVER do these people ever think beyond their nose. They removed Saddam and created ISIS. They armed the Taliban to defend against Russia and then they turned it against the Great Satin. It was the US feeding arms to the Rebels to take down Libya and Syria which backfired and that involved Hillary.

The people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against.

They would not be sending a Doomsday Jet to Europe if they did not know that Nuclear War is now possible. Perhaps the REGIME CHANGE is seriously needed right here at home dragging these Neocons out by their necks to face the public in the open.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-doomsday-jet/

Do you Prefer Lies or the Truth?

QuoteQUESTION: You seem to be anti-American. Are you on the right side of history?

DL

ANSWER: Over 50,000 Americans died in vain for the Neocons and their lies in Vietnam when Communism was collapsing all by itself. I suppose you are the type that is your best friend is having sex with your partner, you prefer not to know because it would mean you have to accept the fact that you are a fool. It gives me no pleasure whatsoever to have to report what is really going on. For whatever reason, I have been put on this earth in a rather unique position where whatever the crisis has been, somehow I know all the players.

Early on, my model seemed to attract the rich and the politically powerful from around the world. I was even in Australia and the India Guru who started the whole TM movement sent a private jet and two chaps who tried to hypnotize me to get on the plane. For a stroke of fate, I had a friend who taught me the tricks of how to "influence" people for your desires as a defense.

You speak to them in a conversation and you ever so gradually keep lowering your voice. Next thing you know, you have them hypnotized. In speaking with these two professionals they were talking about controlling the world and they thought with my model this would be their missing piece and wanted me to get on this plane for a meeting in India. Fortunately, thanks to the training I had from a friend that at the time seemed far-fetched, I caught myself starting to go under and pulled out and accused them of this was how they induced so many followers. They said they were only trying to "relax" me. I threw them out.

That is only one such incident. I have had people try everything from sending in women to trying to install a plant on my staff. I have turned down offers of piles of money and always the objective has been the same. I have been tortured, imprisoned, but I was born with the strength to endure. I have often asked myself – WHY?

They make you think being against Putin is patriotic. They are selling WORLD WAR III to you and you will cheer being their pawn thinking you will sacrifice your life or someone else's child typically, so you can cheer the death and carnage on TV.  Sorry to tell you, this time it will not be on TV.

Every single war has begun on lies. Just in my lifetime, Vietnam was all started because the Neocons simply wanted to defeat communism. The Vietnamese never fired upon US ships and President Johnson lied to the American public and knew it. The Iraq invasion was all BS and far worse than Putin going into Ukraine. American tactics are it destroy everything and then hand them $1 trillion to rebuild. Putin could do the same, but he has not so they spin the story he is losing for this should have been over in days. That is ONLY true if he wanted to conquer Ukraine which he has said from the outset was not his objective.

The United States has ZERO national security at stake in Ukraine any more than we had in Vietnam or Iraq. The Neocons just like war. You are a total fool to think you are going to wage war for God and your Country. I lost most of my high school friends who were denied life simply so the Neocons could wage their disputes. They took out Kennedy and they removed Trump from office. In both cases, they were again engaging in their endless war games.

So wrap yourself in the flag when you sleep at night thinking you are defending America when in fact you are just a pawn to be sacrificed in the real-world chess game for power and vengeance. This will not end well. Remember one thing – EVERY empire, nation, and city-state also dies an unexpected death. None has ever survived.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/geopolitical/do-you-prefer-lies-or-the-truth/


ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on March 29, 2022, 08:10:25 PM
The people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against
I doubt they will do it, the prevailing winds move from West to East, taking most of the fallout to Russia.