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Started by micjer, February 26, 2022, 04:30:31 PM

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micjer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10618543/Putins-daughters-home-Surrey-revealed-amid-hunt-billions.html

Putin probably is the richest man on earth.

Sure looks like a mob boss the wsy he demands a cut from the wealthy business men that he controls.

He looks after his daughters quite well accorfing to this report
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

kevin

#91
Facebook, meta now a owned by zburger.... zuckerberger is now allowing praise of the Nazi's in Ukraine.

All of these young global leaders are acting for Schwab, to implement the fourth reich ...technological revolution.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/roscosmos-zuckerberg-dorsey-nazis-facebook-instagram-policy-change-b2033653.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/ygl-wef-young-global-leaders/
Kevin

astr0144

#92
NATO Calls up Hundreds of Thousands of Troops Ready to Begin WWIII

QuoteThe pressure to start World War III is on. NATO now expects that there will be a major war with Russia and the confrontation may come even in a few weeks. The NATO Secretary-General announced an increased war alert for hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Stoltenberg issued a joint statement with US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, stating that hundreds of thousands of NATO troops were placed on high alert along with 100,000 US troops.

The problem with war is that BOTH sides lie and twist the facts to support their own agenda. They paint their adversary as evil to stir up the troops to go fight and risk their lives typically for fake stories and agendas.

The Press is deliberately trying to create World War III and is engaged in using photos of children hurt and others from events unrelated to Ukraine. This is all to beat the war drums to create World War III without any honest understanding of what that will mean.

Despite the hatred and demonization of Putin, he has been trying to take the high road. Zelensky has been following his orders and refusing to compromise on anything.

We may see this crisis turn into a confrontation as soon as the week of April 18th going into the first week of May based upon our computer models. But the real crisis may come in August and turn global in 2023. I am glad I spent a fair portion of my life in Europe to see all the historical monuments before these people feel the need to destroy the world over two provinces in Ukraine. I fear this time, the monuments will not survive.

Pray for civilization for we have madmen leading the West into World War III all so they can Build Back Better as they did following World War II with Bretton Woods II, but this time we are facing a completely different war with biological and nuclear weapons.

Unfortunately, the press will NEVER tell us the truth or explain just why people are expected to lose their lives for some noble cause that is always some propaganda to support a political agenda. This time, the bombs will be wiping out American cities unlike World War I and II not to mention Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or other clandestine operations. You may not be watching it on TV but out your own window.

Well, we get what we deserve. America voted for Biden, Britain for Johnson, Canada for Trudeau, and Ukraine for Zelensky. There is no peacemaker and certainly no statesman among the crop of world leaders today. To even question what is going on they cancel you now as a Putin supporter to once more not have to explain the truth. There is NEVER truth to be found in the propaganda of war for either side.


https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/nato-calls-up-hundreds-of-thousands-of-troops-ready-to-begin-wwiii/


The Scheme behind the Great Reset.

QuoteAs the press covered Zelnensky's professional speech carried out by his acting training, he continued to try to pull on the heartstrings of the American people to further the hatred of Putin and to wage World War III. He knows what he is asking for and he is not stupid. Zelensky said on March 16 that World War III may have already started amid the Russia–Ukraine conflict. He is desperately trying to create World War III. This will end up nuclear and he is no hero, and the press had better start doing some real investigative work before it is too late.

The National Hero of Ukraine in Zelensky's mind is Stephan Bandera who was a Ukrainian Nazi in whose name they massacred hundreds of Jews, Poles, and Russians with the same philosophy of ethnic purity. The Ukrainian Nazis were protected by the CIA and the Neocons BECAUSE they also hated Russians. The German Nazis were put on trial but the US covered up the Ukrainian Nazis because they hated Russians and that warranted their partnership.

Bandera's monument stands in Ukraine not as a Nazi war criminal, but as a national hero. The Jews who hunted down Nazis who fled never knew the full story about the Ukrainian Nazis who the US protected.

The money that was behind Zelensky for his career came from an oligarch linked to George Soros who did what he could to make sure Zelensky knows that his repeated call for the U.S. to enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine will not spare his country – it will result in its total destruction. That will be an all-out war between the United States and Russia which will drag in China and North Korea as well as in the Balkans from Serbia and Belarus just for starters. Iran will love to join the party against the West and you can bet that will result in bombs falling on Israel.

Even the latest James Bond movie was about bioweapons that can target an individual or a specific ethnicity. This is why Macron refused to take a COVID test in Russia because that would give them his DNA. The Biolabs the US has been running on the border of Russia in Ukraine and China are alleged to be engaged in creating such bioweapons. The US denies that but they also refuse to allow international observers to inspect these facilities – 130 in total.

George Soros in fact acknowledged in an interview with CNN that he actively contributed to the overthrow of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. He said:

"I created a foundation in Ukraine before it became independent from Russia. The foundation has functioned since then and has played an important role in current events,"

Soros supported  Volodymyr Zelensky for President and his friend secretly financed Zelensky – the Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. It was Kolomisky whose name surfaced in the Pandora Papers investigation, which was uncovered tracing money laundering by more than 600 journalists. The worldwide probe by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), included work by journalists from the Ukrainian as well. They connected the financial dealings of Zelensky's television production company Studio Kvartal 95 to the Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. Today, Kolomoisky is a person of interest in investigations in Ukraine, Britain, and the United States. However, now that Zelensky is being portrayed as a hero standing against Putin, none of this will see the light of day.

Now we have Soros out in force claiming that China in league with Russia will "destroy our civilization" when in fact Zelensky is the puppet pushing desperately for World War III so the Neocons can wage war against China and Russia and they think they will get to then usher in the Great Reset and restart the world monetary system all over again with the United Nations as the one-world governing body.

So while everyone cheers Zelensky, they have no idea what cost there will be in getting involved in Ukraine. Zelensky could have easily saved his country by just ending the idea of joining NATO, allowing the two provinces to vote on the separation as was in the Minsk Agreement of 2014, and end all claims to Crimea which was historically Russian territory that was simply assigned to Ukraine for governorship under the Soviet Union. Ukraine was never its own country before the Soviet Union.

This is all being well played and they are desperate for the people to plead for war and that will be the crowning glory for the Great Reset – a completely new world order they get to create with their BUILD BACK BETTER agenda which by definition requires destroying the status quo first

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-scheme-behind-the-great-reset/





Putin Claims US Has Network of Coronavirus Bio-Warfare Labs in Ukraine


"They are now trying to sweep up the traces of these secret programs."

https://summit.news/2022/03/17/putin-claims-us-has-network-of-coronavirus-bio-warfare-labs-in-ukraine/


astr0144

#93
Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks to Russians in emotional plea against war in Ukraine

Arnold's made a online speech condemning the Ukraine war. Giving his view on it..
and making ref to how his father was misled to fight for Germany  and describes his involved activities
and how he was very badly effected by working for the "S.S" NAZI's in WW2.

He claims its nothing to do with Zelensky !

Its suggested that he has done an 8 to 9 min video.. I am not sure if the whole video is  in the
article as I am unable to see the video if its within it... or if easily found online

but I found some parts of it that I have posted links below.

QuoteHe asked Russian President Vladimir Putin, "Why would you sacrifice these young men for your own ambition? ... To President Putin, I say: You started this war. You are leading this war. You can stop this war."

Schwarzenegger said the Russian government's claim that it's attempting to "de-Nazify" Ukraine was completely untrue, pointing out that Ukraine's president, Volodymir Zelenskyy, is Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust
.

"The Russian government has lied not only to its citizens but to its soldiers," he said, before returning to the story of his father.

QuoteArnold Schwarzenegger posted a heartfelt nine-minute video message on Twitter in an attempt to punch through propaganda and speak directly to the Russian people about the war in Ukraine. The legendary bodybuilder, action star and former California governor said he wanted his message to reach "my dear Russian friends."

"I'm speaking to you today because there are things that are being kept from you," he said. "Terrible things that you should know about."

He prefaced his condemnation of the Russian government's actions by speaking of his love and admiration for the Russian people — starting with his childhood hero, the weightlifting champion Yuri Petrovich Vlasov.

He said his father urged him to find a different hero. "We argued back and forth," Schwarzenegger said. "He didn't like Russians because of his experience in World War II." He spoke of his father's time fighting for the Nazis in Leningrad during the war — which he also raised in a powerful video he posted after the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Schwarzenegger's comments, subtitled on screen in both Russian and English, then turned to focus on the grim reality of the situation in Ukraine, where deadly bombardments have forced 3 million Ukrainians to flee their homes.

    I love the Russian people. That is why I have to tell you the truth. Please watch and share. pic.twitter.com/6gyVRhgpFV
    — Arnold (@Schwarzenegger) March 17, 2022

He asked Russian President Vladimir Putin, "Why would you sacrifice these young men for your own ambition? ... To President Putin, I say: You started this war. You are leading this war. You can stop this war."

Schwarzenegger said the Russian government's claim that it's attempting to "de-Nazify" Ukraine was completely untrue, pointing out that Ukraine's president, Volodymir Zelenskyy, is Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust.

"The Russian government has lied not only to its citizens but to its soldiers," he said, before returning to the story of his father.

"When my father arrived in Leningrad, he was all pumped up on the lies of his government. When he left Leningrad, he was broken — physically and mentally. He lived the rest of his life in pain — pain from a broken back, pain from the shrapnel that always reminded him of those terrible years and pain from the guilt that he felt."

"To the Russian soldiers listening to this broadcast: You already know much of the truth that I'm speaking. You've seen it in your own eyes. I don't want you to be broken like my father," he said.

He ended the video by speaking to Russians who have protested their country's invasion of Ukraine.

"We know that you've suffered the consequences of your courage. You have been arrested, you've been jailed and you've been beaten. You are my new heroes. You have the strength of Yuri Petrovich Vlasov. You have the true heart of Russia."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arnold-schwarzenegger-russia-ukraine-nazi-father/?msclkid=f22f2025a6a711ec806d736301c66713

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=wQy0OdqYbGI&feature=emb_logo

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=arnald+Schwarzenegger+++ukraine+war&&view=detail&mid=1816DD0E0971F7E6F4C31816DD0E0971F7E6F4C3&&FORM=VRDGAR



Germany to Begin Confiscating Guns


QuoteGermany is repeating its past mistake from 1938 when Hitler authorized the Gun Control Act that banned "enemies of the state," such as liberals and Jews, from owning firearms. A few weeks later Kristallnacht (night of broken glass) occurred and the people were unable to defend themselves. As we know, it was only a downhill battle from there where the German people were utterly helpless against the Third Reich.

At a time when the world is praising Zelensky for arming citizens and praising the people for protecting their country, the rest of the Western world continues to condemn private gun ownership. Germany will begin disarming 1,500 people who they suspect (not confirmed) are extremists. Germany already has strict requirements for citizens to obtain firearms, but this measure could ensure that people with dissenting opinions are unable to defend themselves.

Trudeau, Putin, Biden, and most world leaders have recently decried citizens as far-right Nazi extremists without valid proof. Anyone could be declared an extremist if they disobey. Germany is taking it to a new extreme by potentially categorizing the entire Alternative for Germany Party (AfG) as dangerous extremists. This group has been vehemently opposed to COVID restrictions as well.

This will begin the trend of allowing governments to disarm people based on their political beliefs. They only want citizens to have guns when they are used to promote the government's agenda. Any dissenters will be labeled dangerous extremists who post a threat to national security. This exact event has happened numerous times throughout history and resulted in the government murdering millions (e.g., The USSR in 1929 and China in 1935).



Then we have this article  that refers to what Kevin said about Zucker and Facebook helping Zelensky.
What does one believe ?  Arnie / Zelensky / Zucker  version  or Putins (or gurus who dispute Zelensky)  ?


Zelensky Thanks Zuckerberg For Helping Him Win the Propaganda War

"It is also a fierce battle in the informational space."

QuoteUkrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Facebook for its role in helping him win the propaganda war after the platform announced it would permit calls for violence against Russians.

Following its move to allow praise for the pro-Ukraine neo-nazi Azov Battalion last week, Facebook said they would permit 'calls for violence against Russians'.

"As a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine we have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules like violent speech such as 'death to the Russian invaders.' We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians," a Meta spokesperson said in a statement.

Moscow responded by banning both Facebook and Instagram in Russia.

President Zelensky took to Twitter to thank Zuckerberg for standing with Ukraine in the "informational space."

"War is not only a military opposition on UA land. It is also a fierce battle in the informational space," Zelensky tweeted. "I want to thank @Meta and other platforms that have an active position that help and stand side by side with the Ukrainians."

In other words, Facebook is directly aiding Ukraine by allowing pro-Ukraine propaganda to spread while banning any pro-Russia propaganda.

This despite the fact that there have been numerous huge fabricated stories in just a few weeks alone, including the Snake Island hoax and the supposed attack on a Holocaust memorial in Kiev that never happened.

"Facebook has helped Zelensky himself spread endless disinformation to try and con NATO into World War III," comments Chris Menahan. "Most recently, they helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant with tanks and it was leaking radiation and could lead to a nuclear holocaust wiping out all of Europe (if NATO doesn't immediately get involved in the war and start WW3)."

"They also helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and were trying to trigger a meltdown."

Facebook's decision to allow its platform to be used to advocate for violence against Russians was also made despite actual real world violence being directed towards Russians.

A Russian cultural center in Paris was firebombed last weekend, while a man in Dublin also drove a truck into the gates of the Russian embassy.




https://summit.news/2022/03/14/zelensky-thanks-zuckerberg-for-helping-him-win-the-propaganda-war/

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Facebook, meta now a owned by zburger.... zuckerberger is now allowing praise of the Nazi's in Ukraine.

All of these young global leaders are acting for Schwab, to implement the fourth reich ...technological revolution.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/roscosmos-zuckerberg-dorsey-nazis-facebook-instagram-policy-change-b2033653.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/ygl-wef-young-global-leaders/
Kevin




micjer



It appears things are about to get interesting.

For the Deep State to be admitting this there must be something else that is about to be exposed and this is a distraction imho.




The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

I cannot recall all the past details with  re researching the details.
Was that to do with Hillary Clintons emails ? and how it could had effected the election if it was proven she had
made up some conspiracy accusing Trump have having deallings with Russia ?

What are your thoughts on what may now happen ?

Do you believe that who ever has investigated it has now managed to certify the truth behind it.
and are suggesting that the Ukraine / Russia war is created by the USA as a form of distraction to this ?

QuoteIt appears things are about to get interesting.

For the Deep State to be admitting this there must be something else that is about to be exposed and this is a distraction imho.

micjer

His laptop shows tax fraud and money laundering with ties to his dad


They didnt want this out prior to election.

In a normal world I would assume Hunter may be in big trouble.

Not sure if there are ties to Clintons and perhaps Obama on this laptop or not.
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

#97
On a quick search browse,

I think there  were two seperate issues in relations to one of Hilarys email scandles and another issue where she  may have accussed Trump of having been involved with having some concerning  connections with Russia.
So, They may not had been connected to Hunter Biden. unless there is something mentioned in any of these articles about him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

I dont think that I was aware or could not  recall  of the Hunter Biden issue  until you posted this today.
I did not even realise who he was until I just checked and found hes the son of Joe Bidden. !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden

Being in the UK I knew very little about  the Biddens...or their family, / background.


Quote from: micjer on March 18, 2022, 10:50:25 PM
His laptop shows tax fraud and money laundering with ties to his dad

They didnt want this out prior to election.

In a normal world I would assume Hunter may be in big trouble.

Not sure if there are ties to Clintons and perhaps Obama on this laptop or not.

Ellirium113


micjer



My question is.....What has changed for this to be coming out now as being the truth?

Is the Deep State throwing the Bidens under the bus as scapegoats for what is taking place in the US economy and in the war in Ukraine?
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

#100
If the NWO  or Agenda 21 plan really exist..as Alex Jones has suggested in the past...
(Although he once sugggested that the various World Leaders were selected by the NWO and put in power)
This article may suggest diferently.

But This also  may be something similar as to what could be going on .

A very Clever ploy by the leaders of the Elite (Almost like a Bond like Movie  Secret Concerning Organisation) to had taken out USAs leader  "Trump", Then to target Russian leader "Putin", and then to target  China's Leader "Xi Jinping" .



Quote
This war has really nothing to do with Ukraine for this country has been used as cannon fodder to overthrow Putin – the second target in this New World Order. The first was the removal of Trump and the last will be the removal of Xi Jinping. This is a major effort to cause regime change in Russia. The sanction has been so outrageous that they are indeed an act of outright war. The strategy to remove all three has been in play and you can tell the very same tactics are used. They DEMONIZE the leader in order to defeat him and to cause people to hate him.

In the case of Putin, they have been doing that in the United States when Hillary, a Neocon herself, manufactured the entire Russia Conspiracy that Putin interfered in the 2016 election.  It was Hillary who allowed the bankers to intervene in the Russian 2000 election which backfired and Yeltsin turned to Putin once he discovered the plot.

Lindsey Graham is also a Neocon who has outright called for Russians to assassinate Putin. All we are getting now is propaganda pushing the agenda of regime change in Russia. The story being put out by Ukrainian Intelligence is that a group of Russian elites are allegedly now conspiring to overthrow Putin and "restore economic ties" with the West. They are posting this on Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. This is clearly propaganda for if there was truly a plot, they would not be warning Putin. Instead, they are creating an imaginary plot in hope for forming one and to create discord in the politics of Russia. It is a ploy as old as history.

Facebook has changed its guidelines to allow for the posting of violence against Russia and calling for the death of Putin. Zuckerberg is also one of these Young Global Leaders of the WEF. As many are praying, his stock should keep going down for the plots that have been hatched in Facebook.

The Ukrainians are even naming Alexander Bortnikov, the Russian Director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin's inner circle, as a successor to the president. They are seeking the conquest of Russia but forcing the people to rise up and overthrow their government because of the sanctions. Biden even threatened China according to the White House stating that serious "implications and consequences" will follow if Beijing decides to give material aid to Russia to support its war in Ukraine. The White House claimed that Biden laid out for Mr. Xi the punishments the United States will inflict upon China and it too would pay a similarly heavy price if it supported Putin.

"He made clear what the implications and consequences would be if China provides material support to Russia as it conducts brutal attacks against Ukrainian cities and civilians," Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Friday afternoon. She declined to say how Mr. Xi responded or give details on the costs the United States has threatened to impose on Beijing, as reported in the New York Times.

China released the transcript of the phone call between Biden and Xi on Chinese state media. Xi expressed opposition to the broad sanctions the United States, European and Asian nations have imposed on Russia, warning they could trigger crises in the global economy. In this score, he is absolutely right. These very same tactics will be turned on China after they are finished with regime change in Russia. Xi referenced a Chinese saying, "Let he who tied the bell on the tiger take it off," which is an idiom that the responsibility for solving a problem should fall on the person who created it. The transcript does not indicate that Xi would play a role in ending the war.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was a "turning point for the world," arguing that a victory for Russian President Vladimir Putin's forces would herald "a new age of intimidation."

We are looking at the beginning of World War III. In order to pull off this Great Reset, they needed to remove Trump, Putin, and Xi in hopes of then subordinating both China and Russia to the New World Order with the United Nations in control.

We live in very interesting and dangerous times. The Climate Change people have pushed that the world has only 7 years left and the Neocons have usurped this agenda to make their dreams come true.



After the Covid lockdowns, Is this whats coming next ?

BACKLASH As Media Says Let Pets Die And Don't Eat Meat, While Globalist Energy Agency Calls For Climate Lockdowns.

You'll own nothing, go nowhere, live in a pod, eat lentils and bugs, let your dog die of cancer, and enjoy it.

https://summit.news/2022/03/21/media-says-let-pets-die-eat-lentils-while-globalist-energy-agency-calls-for-climate-lockdowns/



micjer



Very intetssting discussion of Hunter s laptop and its information that has been found in the deleted files
Also talks about world evonomic issues involving currencies

Worth a listen
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2022, 01:10:56 PM
Very intetssting discussion of Hunter s laptop and its information that has been found in the deleted files
It says that the video is private.  ???

micjer

#103
I see that it has been taken down

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

Ellirium113

BesogonTV Ukraine special
QuoteTo fully understand the genesis of the current situation in Ukraine, how the rise of Neo-Nazism came to be and how the far-right Russophobic ideology and groups gained power over a brotherly nation one must take a retrospect view.

World renowned filmmaker and actor, Academy award winner Nikita Mikhalkov tells and explains just that, with proven facts and archival footage to show the truth, in an emergency hour-long episode of his author's programme BesogonTV.

The Western mainstream media will never report on these facts, sweeping under the rug anything that damages the current anti-Russian narrative, hoping the audiences have no recollection of the sequence of the events. Watch to jog your memory.

https://odysee.com/@Apachechief:f/BegogonTV:e