Ukranian - Russian War

[Ellirium113]

[ArMaP]

I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.

Personally, I don't like Zelensky, and I have a natural distrust of professional liars, and that includes actors and politicians. He is both.

[micjer]

https://www.ladbible.com/news/satellite-images-suggest-worlds-largest-plane-may-still-be-intact-20220302

Not sure if world's largest plane is still ok or destroyed

[petrus4]

Personally, I don't like Zelensky, and I have a natural distrust of professional liars, and that includes actors and politicians. He is both.

Armap, I woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.  Then I saw another video from someone else who I have trusted for years, telling people that there was no reason to panic from said incident; and in the comments of that video, someone said that it was merely the administrative building of the reactor that was shelled, and not the reactor itself, but that the resulting fire had now been put out.

So this makes me think that as you say, Zelensky is a liar, and for some reason he desperately wants other countries to get involved in the Ukraine.  I do NOT want that, because I think Putin is mentally unstable, and I do not want to see him given ANY pretext for even thinking about using nuclear weapons; which, if any other countries get directly involved, he will.

[petrus4]

I am very surprised that YouTube still allows videos like these.  Thank you though, Ellirium; that was enlightening.

[astr0144]

At a Guess..

I wonder if the attack on the Nuke plant is an attempt to put severe fear into Zelensky to try a much quicker
submission... as that is probably any leaders / countries / peoples  worse fear.
It does not mean Putin actually plans to hit the actual reactor.

But it may also risk further concerns from other Countries who may consider taking similar action against Russia,
if they started to believe that Putin has taken a step too far...

The other thing I was thinking about ... in ref to some past Russian invasions... and whether or not other smaller
countries can try to stand up against Russia..

Was when they tried to invade Afganistan..that the Afgans managed to stand up against Russia and it was over at least 10 years between 1979 and 1989 .But Afganistan is as far as I know a different type of terrain that was maybe harder for the Russians to deal with..But even then as far as I recall the Russians tried to take over control or remain even after the main war.One may wonder if such Countries as Afganistan may consider aiding the likes of the Ukraine.

That sort of things may take some time to think about in more detail..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War

I woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.  Then I saw another video from someone else who I have trusted for years, telling people that there was no reason to panic from said incident; and in the comments of that video, someone said that it was merely the administrative building of the reactor that was shelled, and not the reactor itself, but that the resulting fire had now been put out.

So this makes me think that as you say, Zelensky is a liar, and for some reason he desperately wants other countries to get involved in the Ukraine.  I do NOT want that, because I think Putin is mentally unstable, and I do not want to see him given ANY pretext for even thinking about using nuclear weapons; which, if any other countries get directly involved, he will.

I dont know why but when I look on Bings main news articles I cannot see any obvious articles towards the Nuke Plant attack as I look at the moment..

BUT I can ref to these headlines..

Sen Lindsey Graham calls on Russians to assassinate President Putin

Boris Johnson Does Not Want Russians To Assassinate Vladimir Putin, Says No.10
Boris Johnson does not want someone in Russia to assassinate Vladimir Putin, Downing Street has

I have managed to earch elsewhere to find this article that refers to the Nuke plant attack.

What happened at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant? What Russia's attack on Ukraine facility means for Europe

Russia-Ukraine war latest news: Putin's forces seize nuclear power plant after...
'The threat of nuclear annihilation hasn't gone away' – the timely return...
In the early hours of Friday, a fire broke out at Europe's largest nuclear plant, in south-east Ukraine, after it was struck by Russian shelling.

The Russian troops then seized the power station, Zaporizhzhia, sparking global alarm.

The plant in Enerhodar, built between 1984 and 1995, is the ninth-largest in the world with six reactors generating 950MW each. It produces enough energy to supply four million households, or one fifth of Ukraine's 44 million-strong population.

It accounts for half of the energy generated at Ukraine's nuclear power facilities.

What is a nuclear power plant?
Nuclear power plants use nuclear fission to heat water to produce steam, which is used to spin large turbines that create electricity. In nuclear fission, atoms are split apart to form smaller atoms, releasing energy.

This takes place inside the reactor of a nuclear power plant, which contains fuel such as uranium. Once the heat has been converted to steam to create electricity, it is then cooled back into water in a separate cooling tower.

What happened on Friday morning?
At about 1am on Friday, the UN's nuclear monitor, the International Atomic Energy Agency, tweeted that it had put its Incident and Emergency Centre "in full 24/7" due to a "serious" situation at the power plant.

It emerged that Russian troops, who eight days ago forced their way into Ukraine in a land, air and sea invasion, had seized the power plant and set one building ablaze.

Andriy Tuz, the spokesperson for the nuclear plant, said Russian shells were falling directly on the facilities. The reactor is under renovation and not operating, but there is nuclear fuel inside, he said on Ukrainian television.

Firefighters were unable to get near the flames because they were shot at, he said. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted a plea to the Russians to stop the assault and allow fire teams inside.

"We demand that they stop the heavy weapons fire," Mr Tuz said. "There is a real threat of nuclear danger in the biggest atomic energy station in Europe."

Rafael Grossi, the IAEA's Director General Rafael Grossi, spoke to Ukrainian authorities and called for the fighting to stop as he warned of "severe danger" resulting from one of the reactors being hit.

The assault renewed fears that the invasion could damage one of Ukraine's 15 nuclear reactors and set off another emergency like the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the world's worst nuclear disaster, which happened about 110 kilometres (65 miles) north of the capital.

The incident prompted a call at 1.30am between Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which the PM said he would seek an emergency UN Security Council meeting to discuss the attack on the plant.

Mr Johnson said the UK would do "everything it could to ensure the situation did not deteriorate further" after Mr Zelensky released a video warning Europe the whole continent would suffer from a reactor being hit.

"Europeans, please wake up. Tell your politicians – Russian troops are shooting at a nuclear power plant in Ukraine," Mr Zelensky said.

Russia had already captured the defunct Chernobyl plant north of Kyiv, which spewed radioactive waste over much of Europe when it melted down in 1986. The Zaporizhzhia plant is a different and safer type, analysts said.

The fire, identified at a training building, has now been extinguished.

What is the threat of nuclear reaction?
The International Atomic Energy Agency said the fire had not affected essential equipment and that Ukraine's nuclear regulator reported no change in radiation levels. The American Nuclear Society concurred, saying that the latest radiation levels remained within natural background levels.

Several scientists sought to quell fears raised by Mr Kuleba after he claimed in a tweet that an explosion "would be 10 times larger than Chernobyl".

Jon Wolfsthal, who served during the Obama administration as the senior director for arms control and nonproliferation at the National Security Council, said the plant's reactors have thick concrete containment domes that should protect them from tank and artillery fire.

A thread on Twitter explains the difference between the VVER reactors at Chernobyl and the RBMK ones at Zaporizhzhia, which are considered much safer.

But Mr Wolfsthal expressed concern about a potential loss of power at the plant, which could imperil its ability to keep the nuclear fuel cool.

Dr Graham Allison, a nuclear security expert at Harvard University, told the BBC the "worst case" would be the surrounding area at the plant being contaminated by radioactivity caused by a meltdown.

According to James Acton, a nuclear expert, the fire could cause a Fukushima-style meltdown caused by the plant being unable to cool down due to the loss of power.

Why is Russia doing this ?
Mr Acton said he would speculate Russia did not intend to strike the plant, and that it was just "collateral damage".

According to Dr Allison, it was more likely that Russian forces were trying to "close down the supply of electricity to the surrounding area", rather than attack the plant.

Speaking to the BBC when Russia got hold of Chernobyl last week, Dr Taras Kuzio, a research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, noted that the explosion of Chernobyl is often linked to the fall of the Soviet Union just five years later, which Mr Putin deeply regrets.

The seizing of the plant by Russian troops is therefore a symbolic win for Mr Putin, she said.

"Putin has the mindset of somebody who cannot get over the fact the USSR disintegrated 30 years ago, and it all began to disintegrate after Chernobyl," said Dr Kuzio, who is of Ukrainian descent.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/what-happened-at-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-what-russia-e2-80-99s-attack-on-ukraine-facility-means-for-europe/ar-AAUBqse?ocid=uxbndlbing

[micjer]

It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

[kevin]

It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

This man who is best in small doses is saying exactly that.
The hypocrites who are calling for demonstrations and so called freedom fighters to go and fight against Russia are busy voting in bills to stop the right to protest here in the UK.



Kevin

[astr0144]

Several of the people that we tend to follow have made references to various things that maybe going on behind the scenes... and may depend if one believes them    such as things to do with Agenda 21... But I am sure some are likely to be right.

Along with Banking Passports etc.. this is another that I was dreading.

But has been suggested that they have plans to have all our various information on some form of connected system... be it financial, banking  , health, wellfare benefits, tax earnings etc...so we wont be able to hide anything from them...

Some would say its a 1984 nightmare scenerio..

I posted this earlier on another thread. if you have not seen it..


The W.H.O Is Developing an International Vaccine Passport.

Reading this has even spoilt my day even further...
Next to being Chipped, it the next thing that concerned me..which I have been expecting was likely to happen.

I only hope that enough people can revolt to resist this !
Maybe Vaxed People favor it, but there are concerns for them according to the article.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has signed a deal with T-Systems (a Deutsche Telecom subsidiary) for the production of a global QR system to produce an international vaccine passport. The company noted has already implemented vaccine QR codes for over 60 countries, despite the intense resistance by the people. T-Systems is also responsible for implementing the European Federation Gateway Service (EFGS), and Germany's COVID warning app, which has been downloaded over 43 million times.

    The WHO said further information is coming "soon," but we already know the implications. This will provide governments with a tool to track and control our movements both domestically and internationally. Even if you have received the COVID shots and booster, you are only one vaccine away from becoming part of "the unvaccinated" population; you will be banished into the shadows of society. France recently repealed four million vaccine passports, halting lives instantaneously. Countries such as Israel and Australia are calling for four or five vaccines. If the people do not push back, the government will have us on a tight leash with full control over our lives.

    THE WHO is using this Ukrainian Crisis to now justify "papers please" to use these passports to also "weed out" Russian spies. There might be a lot of people who would actually cheer if Putin invaded Geneva as a threat to the world economy. But why should he do that? This is the decline and fall of the West and all he has to do is cheer on Schwab and the WHO to achieve the end of Western Sovereignty.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/vaccine/the-who-is-developing-an-international-vaccine-passport/

It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

[micjer]

https://www.ladbible.com/news/satellite-images-suggest-worlds-largest-plane-may-still-be-intact-20220302

Not sure if world's largest plane is still ok or destroyed

update on this....

Doesn't look good.

https://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-charred-wreck-worlds-123528554.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACErjfbAPVxjZB71dqjjaXMJMDEqFm_i3W-ZAIQRe6DNDlH5fWjmNudgYDF-0Q5Y9eTthLb7cbFzfsb5aEVxPvJqrrcBNjmztwYsDEGSf74FEe8cA3G03mPZpAs8eNRHkgrZa4EsgQPtAVW2g4iElGFNuh3u5B9_ePKWvtlcmUvx

[ArMaP]

Armap, I woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.

He likes to ask for "immediate" reactions, like when he asked for "immediate" entry into the EU, something that takes several years.

[micjer]

[ArMaP]

Zelensky didn't like that NATO doesn't want to impose a no fly zone, as that would mean a direct confrontation between NATO and Russia.

[micjer]

[ArMaP]

Didn't you know that we are not supposed to believe RT or any Russian source, they only broadcast propaganda.