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Nick Bostrom: How AI will lead to tyranny

Started by RUSSO, December 01, 2023, 10:50:34 PM

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RUSSO

Quote from: ArMaP on December 14, 2023, 03:51:34 PM
I'm an atheist, so my answer is "no" to all of the above.

You have faith in science rigth? We were teach to have. What when science is not enought? Hipoteticaly of course. There is no way we got it wrong, right? :)
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on December 16, 2023, 09:38:06 AM
Are you a nihilist? I mean do you believe in nothing?
No, I do believe in some things.

In fact, to be an atheist I have to believe that gods do not exist, right? ;)

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on December 16, 2023, 09:57:24 AM
You have faith in science rigth? We were teach to have. What when science is not enought? Hipoteticaly of course. There is no way we got it wrong, right? :)
I do, but not because I was told to. In fact, whenever someone says that I must do something my natural instinct is to not do it. :D

What do you mean with "when science is not enough"?

And being wrong is part of science, finding out what is wrong is part of what makes science advance.

RUSSO

Quote from: ArMaP on December 16, 2023, 05:10:14 PM
No, I do believe in some things.

In fact, to be an atheist I have to believe that gods do not exist, right? ;)

Well, not necessarily. Being an atheist simply means lacking belief in gods; it doesn't necessarily require actively believing that gods do not exist ;)
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Of course that would be a need to know about your believes a little more as you can be a strong atheist or a weak atheist. When someone identifies as an atheist, it may not necessarily mean they actively believe that gods do not exist (strong atheism); rather, they might simply lack a belief in gods (weak atheism).

The distinction is subtle but crucial in understanding the diversity of atheist perspectives.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Quote from: ArMaP on December 16, 2023, 05:13:30 PM

What do you mean with "when science is not enough"?

Some argue that certain technologies we have require more than just scientific knowledge to operate it effectively.

QuoteAnd being wrong is part of science, finding out what is wrong is part of what makes science advance.

Too bad that being wrong is sooo painful for some folks to recognize; they even prefer to look like fools. I know the paradigm has not changed yet, but still, what a lack of perspective from some of these "academics".



"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Funny enough, they act like they are the gods with omniscient power ;D

A couple of centuries ago, science would have been calling nonsense to human flight, space travel, telecommunication, antibiotics, electric lighting, and so on.

Imagine what they would call you if you were a scientist and wrote a piece about AI.  :D
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on December 18, 2023, 05:54:30 AM
Of course that would be a need to know about your believes a little more as you can be a strong atheist or a weak atheist. When someone identifies as an atheist, it may not necessarily mean they actively believe that gods do not exist (strong atheism); rather, they might simply lack a belief in gods (weak atheism).
In my case I believe that god(s) are not needed and just a human creation.

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on December 18, 2023, 07:10:24 AM
Funny enough, they act like they are the gods with omniscient power ;D
Unfortunately, that applies to many people, even those that are completely ignorant but have a strong belief in something.
Facebook is full of people like that, that think that any idea they have is the absolute truth and anyone that says the opposite (or what they think is the opposite) is wrong.

QuoteA couple of centuries ago, science would have been calling nonsense to human flight, space travel, telecommunication, antibiotics, electric lighting, and so on.
There's a difference between "science" and the "scientists". Science says nothing, some scientists talk as if they are representing science, when they are only talking for themselves.

QuoteImagine what they would call you if you were a scientist and wrote a piece about AI.  :D
That would be interesting to see. :)

PS: electrice light was demonstrated at the start of the 19th century, more than 200 years ago.

RUSSO

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Quote from: ArMaP on December 18, 2023, 11:39:37 AM
In my case I believe that god(s) are not needed and just a human creation.

You may be surprised in a near future that some god(s) did it to us.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

RUSSO

Quote from: RUSSO on December 31, 2023, 10:56:55 AM


Last one for this year.

He was pretty vocal about get a Covid vaccine. :D

And now I am pretty sure the more you get the less for me, so enjoy your next batch. :)
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

ArMaP

Quote from: RUSSO on December 31, 2023, 11:07:33 AM
You may be surprised in a near future that some god(s) did it to us.
It wouldn't be a surprise because I accept the possibility of being wrong. :)

Ellirium113

ChatGPT creator joins forces with Pentagon

QuoteIn addition to partnering with the Pentagon for military applications, OpenAI is expanding its operations in the realm of "election security," according to CEO Sam Altman, who also spoke to Bloomberg during the Davos conclave.

"Elections are a huge deal," he said, declaring it "good" that "we have a lot of anxiety" about the process.

His company is reportedly working on preventing the use of its generative AI tools to spread "political disinformation," such as deepfakes and other artificially-generated media that could be used to attack or prop up candidates during the 2024 voting cycle.
https://www.rt.com/news/590819-openai-pentagon-cybersecurity-weapons-change/

It's to protect THEIR democracy!