A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Amaterasu]

wish I had an answer, Linda.  It would be great if I did.  I just know that NOW is the time for free energy to flow.

Then THAT'S the answer.  NOW is the time.   Linda

Ok.  [smile]  I just know it is.  That is My impetus.  My raison d'etre.

[1Worldwatcher]

This thread has the makings of a great theoretical paper, note mind you, that it is a theoretical paper of the Human species consciousness and awareness of the potentiality of such far fixated ideologies of being truth.
If one realises that there is a some what side effect of amnesia with in our ability to accept, comprehend and utilize these so too be lost thoughts or thinking processes, then they too will over ride the current status quot of understanding what Lay ahead.
As for Hancocks book, "Finger prints of the Gods" his ideology for the ancients is that they were able to do thing's that we as a species are rediscovering now. The temple of the Sun and Moon, for example had huge square stone Calderon's,, for the most part, the main stream sciences said "Look, they built an above ground water supply that fed the entire community, how ingenuitive of them." for Graham Hancock it was an Epiphany that he realised that these weren't water containment systems at all for just sustenance.
While he was doing his investigation, he had felt a trimmer, he seen the glass of liquids on the table react too it, that is when he realised that the stone megalithic square community watering holes may have had great value in Earth quake sensing scenario's. Under further investigation, he found out that the location of each of these was able to produce of reaction of earthquakes happening around the world thousands of miles away with unbelievable accuracy. he also was a staunch believer that we are missing a part of our consciousness that leaves us too be under the category as "Amnesiacs" for lack of a better word.
I have read "Finger Prints of the Gods" myself, this is before I had read Sitchins writing's with "The 12Th Planet" series. Though Sitchin and Hancock remained as friends and confidant's over these issues until Sitchin's death in 2009, October 9Th, they could only arrive at one instance why and when the amnesia took place. This was the assimilation factors now seen with religions and cults.
They began too structure diversity under the guise of understanding what is being said, not in the understanding of the lost processes of the ancients. They, for example, had created their own world of awareness. And when this took place, and tribes began to separate and become oblivious too one another, they did what the higher Archy of the current establishment suggested, and became defiant too any outside ideologies and inspirations therefore becoming the dominant reguardless of truth of this fact.
Both Sitchin and Hancock were on the same page of perception's, and with these megalithic structures being built , too the likes we would have a hard time doing today, it remains as an enigma of sorts to why we currently think these new technologies didn't exist before with much more tech than mainstream sciences want too admit.
Essentially, we would have to rewrite the entire history books of humanity if this was proved too be true, and the PTB's definitely don't want too do that.
Though I cannot as eloquently recite what I have read by both of these author's as Undo11 has done impeccably, I can remain constent that we are, for all practicality, a species with severe "Amnesia" "From what was before, will be once again." quote from the bible, not sure where, but it has stuck with me for the up and coming understanding's of such topics.
I was awakened in 2005 with this theoretical ideology. I have never heard of it until then. But, with my personal experiences with UFO sighting's, reading's of the bible and other texts, knowing that some of these lore's may be factual with the deciphering of the Sumerian texts, there had too be something too it, back then I think the species(Our Species) was more practical to have written down these lost words as fact based, only too be found by a civilization of amnesiacs too decipher as pure Romanticism and fiction.
There was a point when Gilgamesh was approaching the Cedar Forest, in the text he had mentioned guards made of a strange metal with glowing red eye's, too me this sound's as if it were a automated system with laser guided abilities. And the before mentioned metal these were made of was of a metal not seen before by Gilgamesh.
Whether these stories pull out the facts for us like minded people or not, it is a timeless tale of nothing short than that of what was being experienced, if this wasn't the case, for all prctical matter's "they created the tablet's too tell" or we would still be writing in this ancient Sumerian writing.
We had lost sight of our true forefathers abilities, only now to reawaken it's true and very desirable potential. IMHO.

1Worldwatcher

[Linda Brown]

Its interesting that you would bring up " amnesia" in sort of a world wide cultural way.... while I have been wrestling with the idea of " amnesia " in a more individual and personal way.

Asking myself... if you were involved in a super secret organization for years and years and then wanted out.... just how could you manage that? The old joke about " Once CIA always CIA" would be lightweight to the organization that I am thinking of.... and the secrets held by a person " in " for so many years would be horrendous..... How would that organization assure themselves that their retirees would be able to go into a normal private life.

As in the old movie "Paycheck" maybe the best situation would be just to have them agree to undergo a " process" where everything " special" that they knew was " erased " from their memory? Would that actually work?

And what you have been saying here 1WW is that entire cultures might have been treated the same way? After knowing such amazing things..... to suddenly not know of them at all.....what a tragedy, what a loss.... but would that be the only way that they could safely continue... have normal lives for centuries.....

So while I am pondering over single individuals... perhaps this entire thing has been done before... with entire groups of humans.... occasionally though there is always that situation where a person can " remember" what is supposed to be lost. And then that person who happens to hold the true knowledge is then charged with keeping it safe and trying to help others remember when the time is right. We all seem to be looking for some kind of a key.... to some sort of mystery... but I think at the same time.... down deep ... we realize that whatever it is.... we have known it all along.

One person.... or millions.... what is the actual difference?  Linda

[Amaterasu]

In The Terra Papers, Humanity was subject to "erasure" of memory by Marduk.  Though some scattered souls escaped the process, virtually all were rounded up and run through the erasure process.

So...  Yeah.  Likely cultural amnesia purposefully promulgated.

[A51Watcher]

Quote from: Linda Brown on Today at 08:15:50 AM

"What makes us all believe that NOW seems to be the time for the final.... as Amaterasu says in her petition.... release of information? Are we actually there yet? Wherever THERE is?"



What makes ME think so is that without a solution, the "bad guys" win.  We NEED free energy - and I would like to see gravity control along with that - to wrest Their power away from Them...

I submit for consideration that the evidence shows TT Brown's work is not withheld because of free energy potential, but for it's military potential.

That is the same reason the technology Bob Lazar encountered is being withheld. It too has massive 'free' energy potential but is not the reason it is so closely guarded.




Free is a slightly misleading term because as Zorgon points out, all energy sources require infrastructure and transmission and outlets. Somebody has to initially provide those and also maintain them.


So perhaps the infamous term 'too cheap to meter' might be more accurate.   


   

[Linda Brown]

So..... historically.... if you understand and agree with the Terra Papers.... then it is not so far out of line then for me to consider that this " process" might still be in use occasionally....

in my book I mention meeting the character the Paul Schatzkin decided to call " Morgan". I had been working all summer (1967) at a place called GTI in Santa Monica and there were alot of strange things going on around me.... ( General Curtis LeMay standing on a rickety lab chair to change a lightbulb was one of the strangest!)

  It was a stressful summer and I hadn't had any kind of a break... and I wondered where Morgan was and what he was doing but that of course was not information that was forthcoming. I had pretty much accepted the fact that we were lost to each other.

We had said goodbye in January of that year.  after rescuing alot of my Dads papers from a lab outside Philadelphia. ( first and last time you are going to see this woman doing a cat -burglar routine) and he had said...." see you in San Francisco"...  strangely in the fall those words came true.  I was able to meet up with him in September... In San Francisco .... as he had predicted.....

The next morning Dad met us with the car that he and I were going to drive back to Santa Monica. Morgan and I stood there .... knowing that perhaps we might never see each other again... and he looked at me with the strangest expression that I have ever seen on any humans face.... as if he knew something but could never put it into words... and couldn't share it with me either........He looked off toward the bay and finally looked at me in that odd way and simply said..." You are going this way.... and I am going that.... I nodded.... got in the car and drove off.

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/49963

That expression has haunted me for years.  Recently I was able to meet with the man Paul chose to call "Morgan" in THAT EXACT SPOT..... and he had no memory of that meeting years ago at all. I scanned his face to see if there was a flash of recognition regarding the location....and there was nothing.

And now I wonder if he knew then.... when he looked at me in that oh so strange way... if he knew even then.... that there would be a time when we would stand in that spot again and he would not remember?

Sorry .... just a strange wander through some current and very odd thoughts on my part!  Linda

[Linda Brown]

Hi A51!

" submit for consideration that the evidence shows TT Brown's work is not withheld because of free energy potential, but for it's military potential.

That is the same reason the technology Bob Lazar encountered is being withheld. It too has massive 'free' energy potential but is not the reason it is so closely guarded.

And I absolutely agree with you but I would like to add a couple of thoughts.

I do believe that the military does have some of this material that they have " classified" and Boy oh Boy oh Boy.... they are not going to let that out. Period.

But there is another situation going on here too. There are " Secret" situations that even the military doesn't know about yet. (You can't classify something that you don't even know about.... and I believe that this has happened here ... so what they DO know about the military has a death grip on... but the rest??

What they "Don't " know about is controlled by an.... lets call them.... an entity.... that is not releasing that information either... at least not all at once. Interesting that the small leaks that have happened have not occurred in the military sector....( or if they have let some things go that direction it has been classified quickly.)

I sense that there is a movement afoot which intends to let some of this information out to the public. I believe that Forums like this one and others are just part of the overall plan...

This is no little deal and I have no idea how long this process will take, but in my opinion I see the beginning of it...... And when it does broach the surface this " bubble" will not be owned by any government. It will hit all over all at once.....

Linda 

[Amaterasu]

I submit for consideration that the evidence shows TT Brown's work is not withheld because of free energy potential, but for it's military potential.

That is the same reason the technology Bob Lazar encountered is being withheld. It too has massive 'free' energy potential but is not the reason it is so closely guarded.




Free is a slightly misleading term because as Zorgon points out, all energy sources require infrastructure and transmission and outlets. Somebody has to initially provide those and also maintain them.


So perhaps the infamous term 'too cheap to meter' might be more accurate.   

And I submit that it's likely both - but the free energy aspect is the biggest threat.  Money = meaningful energy expended.  As Jeremy Rifkin, a highly regarded economist, puts it: money is just stored energy credits.  Add abundant free energy and the need for money (in any form) dissipates, removing the power that comes with it.

Without money, the few thousand (or less) evil Ones who are planning to kill Us all would just be a few thousand (or less) equally Self empowered, just like the billions of Us, with no means to control all of Us.

[1Worldwatcher]

A51,

I submit for consideration that the evidence shows TT Brown's work is not withheld because of free energy potential, but for it's military potential.

I agree, but there is a bigger part of understanding with such perceptional acknowledgement's. It becomes very convoluted for the masses when such thing's are dubbed too the realm of 'Conspiracy theories' too allow them too continue with no discloser because they have these advantageous abilities, but too release such a thing? That would be what I call "Monetary suicide" for them. Militarily is the key word. And thus is condemned to it's application's for bettering humanity in the far back of their mind's for such a disclosure.
And as far as I can tell with TTB involvement, he was only a part of the whole, kept at bay by his propagator's intentionally and adamantly. If you have a puzzle and one piece is missing, the puzzle becomes redundant to piece together, but for the PTB, they just cut out a piece that fit's, color it too it's closest potential for finishing it, and then pat themselves on the back for being so ingenious and creative. Most would throw the puzzle away, but for what they have done thus far, is nothing short of 'Deception' on a grand scale. They make the picture whole with improvised pieces of self centered mindedness, we are the ones looking for the piece in hopes of it's ultimate and virtual 'Authenticity' to it's creation.

That is the same reason the technology Bob Lazar encountered is being withheld. It too has massive 'free' energy potential but is not the reason it is so closely guarded.

Bob and his associates of this matter have done what they could too make this issue public. Not for self gain, but for the masses as being factual and real. If Bob did not come out with his side of this tale, chances are we would have not known what we now know today. As far as I am concerned, he is a martyr too the cause, for what they have done too him is reprehensible and self damning at the same time. Two thing's that that draws flies by the droves. And I am not talking about sugar here!! LOL
Heck, with having people like John Lear here on our site as part of the answer, where else can one find more truth to a supposed 'Conspiracy' that is so closely connected? I proclaim "Nowhere".
One can take it or leave it, but isn't it odd that they are only denying it without tangible deniability? Which is why, s far as I can deduce, they kept the researchers and scientists away from mingling with one another, in both TTB's and Lazar's account of such thing's.

Free is a slightly misleading term because as Zorgon points out, all energy sources require infrastructure and transmission and outlets. Somebody has to initially provide those and also maintain them.
So perhaps the infamous term 'too cheap to meter' might be more accurate.

"Monetarism" is all I can say. We are not worth the loss of such equitable and high stake finances by their (PTB's) eyes. The raw materials are here for the application's of everything that has been built or dreamed, but it was the affore mentioned disbursement of our very beginning's that allowed us too be where we are today, monetarily speaking. Too Enki and Ea (Correct that if I am wrong Undo11, not versed without seeing lineage as formatted. lol), it was a prospect of survival for a race in distress, by what has been disclosed per Sitchin's writing's of the Annanaki, somewhere, sometime in the past, there was a price placed for value's of supply and demand, err go our current understanding of capitalism and monetary issue's at hand now. Some proclaim that Neadertahl was trading trinkets of rocks, shell and beads, if this is fact then it was instilled in them that they are too be constituents of both greed of property, possesion's being the undeniable authority during their time. Disbursing of the original  group that was too become us is where territorial demise comes in and the monetary is what they realized as what we call now 'Spoils of war'.
Hancocks deduction's are fascinating, and with all thing's being put to the microscopic of probabilities, it suffice too say that they were and are truly smarter than we are today with such little technology. "Or was there such a thing as impossible, in that time?" IMHO..

1Worldwatcher

[1Worldwatcher]

Linda,

This is no little deal and I have no idea how long this process will take, but in my opinion I see the beginning of it...... And when it does broach the surface this " bubble" will not be owned by any government. It will hit all over all at once.....

As long as we have all these individuals coming forward with testimony and affiliation's, the fight is on. And on another note, if one truly thinks deeply upon it's probability "We seem too be coming to the point of where all thing's are not what they seem, and we ARE rediscovering our full potentials and origin's." Rediscovering old technologies, huh? Is that what we are doing now? I think so. Not so much the technology part, but the awakening of a amnesiac from a coma? Could possibly be.

[A51Watcher]

And I submit that it's likely both...

I agree. But the military option is the one they have legal justification and authority for. Any senate or congressional hearing by 'select' members will quickly rule in their favor.


The devices with no military applications they have to be a lot more sneaky about disappearing.

- but the free energy aspect is the biggest threat. 

To the industrialists in power that is true. The (normal) military have a different agenda, but they work hand in hand with the former because they require funding and companies to build their toys for them.

MJ-12 or whatever their true designation is, pulls the strings of both from behind the curtain.

[Linda Brown]

The devices with no military applications they have to be a lot more sneaky about disappearing.

Been my experience that EVERYTHING that they wish to call "attached to military applications."... is suddenly " attached to military applications" without too much of an explanation to anyone.

And what the military has a hard time grabbing in the white world without explainations..... the black ops attached to them has no problems at all and no one to answer to either.   Linda

[hobbit]

Let's for the sake of better comprehending this...  that TIME is involved.
Then ponder on what those who have control over time will be capable of???
Nobody can do anything other than they would allow... as they can view our future and manipulate anyone with the MEMORY technology that involves TIME.

To better think this out, consider Yourself jumping forward a few years  and looking at the then history back to the here and now.
If anyone had done anything You didn't desire to occur, You could return to the here and now  and alter their memory to remove the information required to achieve what they did, but which then doesn't occur.

If YOU had a device that enabled time interactions, would YOU allow anyone , or everyone to have similer access??

Going back in time will be also available, but it must equal to the here and now , otherwise You may not exist at all, thus what is has occured, even if You went back to ensure it occured.


confusing indeed?
hobbit

[Linda Brown]

My Dad once said that possibility was a little bit like someone tapping a kaleidoscope on the edge. The patterns would shift. Colors all the same but in different places and of course those colors would never know that they had been " tapped".

Indeed.... if you happened to have that ability who would you hand it off to?  Linda

[Amaterasu]

So..... historically.... if you understand and agree with the Terra Papers.... then it is not so far out of line then for me to consider that this " process" might still be in use occasionally....

in my book I mention meeting the character the Paul Schatzkin decided to call " Morgan". I had been working all summer (1967) at a place called GTI in Santa Monica and there were alot of strange things going on around me.... ( General Curtis LeMay standing on a rickety lab chair to change a lightbulb was one of the strangest!)

  It was a stressful summer and I hadn't had any kind of a break... and I wondered where Morgan was and what he was doing but that of course was not information that was forthcoming. I had pretty much accepted the fact that we were lost to each other.

We had said goodbye in January of that year.  after rescuing alot of my Dads papers from a lab outside Philadelphia. ( first and last time you are going to see this woman doing a cat -burglar routine) and he had said...." see you in San Francisco"...  strangely in the fall those words came true.  I was able to meet up with him in September... In San Francisco .... as he had predicted.....

The next morning Dad met us with the car that he and I were going to drive back to Santa Monica. Morgan and I stood there .... knowing that perhaps we might never see each other again... and he looked at me with the strangest expression that I have ever seen on any humans face.... as if he knew something but could never put it into words... and couldn't share it with me either........He looked off toward the bay and finally looked at me in that odd way and simply said..." You are going this way.... and I am going that.... I nodded.... got in the car and drove off.

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/49963

That expression has haunted me for years.  Recently I was able to meet with the man Paul chose to call "Morgan" in THAT EXACT SPOT..... and he had no memory of that meeting years ago at all. I scanned his face to see if there was a flash of recognition regarding the location....and there was nothing.

And now I wonder if he knew then.... when he looked at me in that oh so strange way... if he knew even then.... that there would be a time when we would stand in that spot again and he would not remember?

Sorry .... just a strange wander through some current and very odd thoughts on my part!  Linda

Missed this.  Could be, Linda.  And if the time travel info is true, He may have known He would not remember...