A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[zorgon]

"then how stupid could one be to start playing about with the very basic building blocks of LIFE.
hobbit"

Pretty dumb Hobbit.

Well then that means that EG is dangerous doesn't it? If no one understands how it works and what it can do?

[zorgon]

sure....sure...

Well it wasn't Linda that filed the complaint It was one of my staff that had enough.

[thorfourwinds]

Well it wasn't Linda that filed the complaint It was one of my staff that had enough.

Greetings:

We're pretty sure it was more than one.

Let's put the two of them in a squared circle and charge admission...

Probably be more on topic and much more interesting...IMHO only.

Good luck with all of it, as EG truly needs understanding and we are on the side of the truth.

tfw

[Littleenki]

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[Linda Brown]

I think that the only comment I have at this point is that things that make no sense to Mikado are not necessarily nonsensical. Just my personal opinion.

He himself made quite a point of saying that he could present a IP for himself elsewhere ....so if even he could do it.....other administrators on the Hut could do it.... almost anyone anywhere with the right skill could do it.... so I think this entire discussion is pretty much a waste of time. I do note however the agenda behind it.... which is to .... at all costs.... discredit me.

Again my personal opinion based on observation.  Linda

[Linda Brown]

OK.... You guys want to know my beef with Mikado straight out? Its very simple actually.

Hobbit says this

"then how stupid could one be to start playing about with the very basic building blocks of LIFE.
hobbit"

And he was VERY accurate. And Mikado mentions in one of his tests that the thing " sang" in a way he had never heard. Do any of you remember that particular post?

Sang!.... and he wonders why I am upset over the fact that he has basically decided long ago to " go it on his own" and that he knows so much more than anyone else around him.

And yet it "sings" and he doesn't know what that means.

I have no words for the contempt I have for that brand of irresponsible scientific exploration. Especially when he ( of all people) knows the potential of this thing.

. So there you have it. No words are just about what its worth..... and I suppose that really its too late now. Mikado is so smug in thinking that no one will come down his lane but its not he alone that will suffer.

And maybe John was right after all.   Linda

[Linda Brown]

Since apparently it would be wise for us not to talk about random IPs.... I just wanted to ask why you let that big message by Langley fly right by and you had NOTHING at all to say about that. Why is that? Especially this part

Bear with me. For five years Ive been wondering whats so secret about "spin vectors" and then on P221 Cook explains it, not knowing that he has.

I need another smoke.

Someone once wrote about the radioactive properties of the B2. I think now the story might be true, but if so it is not strontium 90 paint. It is gamma from mutual annhilation of protons and electrons on the trailing edges of the wings.Langley


The link to Pauls website where this is drawn is in the original message above.  Linda
Senior Officer    
I would have thought that would have been important!

instead you divert the attention to IPs. Lets get back to the important material that Langley presented Staying on topic here!!

Messa ge 148, this thread......      Linda

[Amaterasu]

uh huh  and since when has mankind ever been able to resist using new technology as a weapon first?

We discovered fire... we found that we could use it to burn our enemies

We discovered Oil Tars  Long before we dreamed of it as fuel we used it to pour burning hot oil on people attacking our castles

We created atomic energy, the first thing we did was nuke two cities

Beside you tell me EG can provide unlimited free power...

History tells us that unlimited power corrupts absolutely 90% of the human race at this time cannot be trusted to handle such immense power 'for the good of all'

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but we can't just drop it on joe public without safeguurds either

Secret Societies were originally set up NOT to hide knowledge but to TEACH it wisely... and to protect it from the then current PTB

Unfortunately some (but not all) went to the Dark Side

You forget one thing...  With free energy comes no need for money.  History has never had a time when some form of exchange ("money") was unneeded, nor when there was no energy scarcity, nor when robots were doing all necessary work no One WANTS to do.

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

So.  Since only individuals could have motive to weaponize - jealousy as motive, perhaps - any weapons will be used very locally, and society will deal with the guilty as They do now. 

The whole idea of "looking at history" to give One a map of terra incognita (abundant energy, robots to do all necessary work no One WANTS to do) seems less than likely to offer a good picture.

In history, the MAIN reason for weaponizing was money and it's other form, power.  Add the overunity, and One cannot have power over anyOne but One's Self.

I say give Them power for home and vehicle, and MOST will be VERY happy with that.  Take the costs of energy out of transportation, agriculture, and industry and everything is free.

[Linda Brown]

And you think that kind of world will be handed to you Amaterasu? I hope that you are right. But you still have not come to grips with the danger of electrogravitics while you are counting on its benefits so heavily. I remember we started this thread or one very much like it.... and you couldn't see the dangers.

Now that you have had a chance to do some reading.... do you still feel that the dangers are remote?

Linda

[Linda Brown]

Amaterasu. Please.... this is VERY important.... we have all had a good time here "playing" with personalities... I have tried to say that this is important stuff but apparently my message is not getting through because I am supposed to be too emotionally involved. Well. I kinda wish all of you were just a little more emotional about this. You might pay just a little more attention to words of warning.

I am on topic. In fact I think that it is important to review what the first post was.
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From Amaterasu....
I received the following explaining why electrogravitics is dangerous, and would love any input from My friends here relative to this issue:


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You are correct about that because it vents energy from another dimension and appears to create energy.

The fact that it produces a dimensionless thrust means that it produces its thrust regardless of its inertial frame of reference.

This appears to violate the conservation of energy and mass law. This law is of course in error because we can plainly see that the universe is full of energy and matter and existence implies creation.

It should also be pointed out that it is impossible to prove the non-happening of an event, therefore this law is not a law at all but rather a statement of what the writer of it was unable to do for lack of knowledge and simply assumed everyone else was always going to be just as ignorant.

It was discovered by accident in 1929 and pigeon-holed because they didn't want to rewrite the physical laws and appear stupid. There have been many forms of it over the decades but it remains a sensitive subject because this technology can accellerate an object to speeds near the speed of light as well as spin a generator shaft.

The generator application has dire economic as well as other consequences, but the collision of an object travelling at near light spead with our moon, (which by the way would eventually be inevitable) would create an energy density at the collision site about equal to the energy density near a black hole.

Such an energetic event would unravell the bonds that hold matter together and would result in a shower of both particles and their anti particles.

The resultant malestrom of destruction would self-propagate through the moon at roughly 1/2 the speed of light and convert the entire mass of the moon into gamma radiation in what is in essence a Hypernova explosion.

Within 1.5 seconds the entire Earth would be exposed to a blast of radiation similar to you holding a beach ball-sized nuclear bomb at arms length over the entire surface.

Most of the other planets would also be destroyed and the outer shell of the Sun would be stripped away exposing its 20 million degree core.

Is this reason enough?
(He's wrong about the economic thing...)

You did not name your source Amaterasu. I have a feeling that I know who it was. Maybe if you could name him...it might sink in here just a little more.

And if he is right about everything else Amaterasu..... who gives a royal rip about the " economic thing". Just trying to put things into perspective around here ... Before I get called Chicken Little again. <g>  Linda

[Amaterasu]

To be fair, I don't know who the guy is.  I posted to the Yahoo free energy group and the guy responded with that.  I did ask Him if He wanted to come aboard here but never got a response on that.  (Seems that happens to Me a lot!  LOL!  I asked that other guy the same and got no response.)

So...  I don't know what to tell You.  I could comb My emails to find what He sent and let You know what He called Himself, but as I recall, it was not identifying.

[Linda Brown]

Thats OK then. If he wants to be recognized I am sure that he will step forward. His view was astoundingly astute.... and I thought I recognized some of his phrasing.

One of the most important things that he said was
"You are correct about that because it vents energy from another dimension and appears to create energy.

The fact that it produces a dimensionless thrust means that it produces its thrust regardless of its inertial frame of reference.

I don't know if you realized it or not but when Mikado and some of the others invest themselves in a conversation about what happens when this thing " works" this is what they are talking about and your : guest poster" hit it squarely on the head..... That lets me know that he is well aware of what he is talking about.

In nature this Effect is demonstrated by ball lightning, The strangest and still the most unexplained things about ball lightning is when it is formed by an arc..... a sudden discharge.... it should only last for a short time.... but in some cases ball lightning actually acts as if it is " drawing its energy from somewhere else", And indeed it is.

Years ago no one could venture the thought that it was pulling energy from " another dimension" but now thanks for writing from La Violette and others.... People are beginning to consider the possibilities....

If he is right about that part of his message then there is a good chance that he is right about the rest of it.... and it is easy to see that if you are drawing energy from another dimension .... that action just might be answered........by messages in return or maybe even a personal visit.

Thanks for the response. As pessimistic as I might have sounded in the last few messages ( and stressed out too, I know, I know... I am really sorry about that..... ) I still have wonderful views of the gummer ahead of us.......editing in here.... of course I meant SUMMER... and I THOUGHT I had proofread that! At least you know its me!    ) Linda

[Amaterasu]

I did delve back in My email and found a name: Alius Sage.  I doubt this is His real name, though.  Does it mean anything to You?

[hobbit]

That excuse is getting really old Linda.

Ask yourself, why would the PTB want to route so many different individuals through your IP? It makes no common sense for it would draw unwanted attention to you and disclose your location which at time, you were using a pseudonym to remain anonymous. They would have been doing you no favors for they would have been exposing you.

This is getting old and is NOT on topic regardless of what another poster has said. And to bring up Fred in a forum where he isn't and where it has no bearing on the topic is just casting aspersions and not nice ones.

Mikado

Removed My reply to save anyone thinking they have to "BABYSIT" Me in any way.
I may leave this forum.

hobbit

[Linda Brown]

PLEASE STAY HOBBIT. IF YOU LEAVE I WILL LOSE MY NAVIGATOR.

Please stay. Just.... sometimes.... don't say anything... and when you see me starting off wrongfooted.... tell me...Please. Don't leave now. That would have been the plan.

I will learn to shut up too.  Linda