A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Amaterasu]

Yous cracks Me up, Beth!  LOLOL!

[undo11]

Yous cracks Me up, Beth!  LOLOL!

^_^

[hobbit]

*grabs the popcorn* 

The TENSION mounts, in the torsion field, the popcorn crackles.
You are a gem Undo.
hobbit

[hobbit]

hobbit

sorry to burst your balloon on that one, but z is not a religious person although he has knowledge of rosicrucianism and buddhism.  he is otherwise, not religious and this is his forum, and he is not attacking you and there are no hyena packs  circling you.

It would be interesting to discuss PRESSURE, in how a balloon operates.
I never said Z was religious.
I never said Z was attacking Me.
He is not alone knowing a great deal about such as the rosicrucians, but I won't carp on about them.
( that was a joke about a type of fish called crucians that are carp)

The hyenas encircling was how like minded( whatever like) group together to bolster that thinking, and then act in a pack manner to deal with any threat to that thinking.

hobbit

[zorgon]

I suppose you would like me to post my CV?

That is neither wise nor required. 

There was one thing that ATS did that was used to solve such an issue WHEN THE NEED OF PROOF BECAME NECESSARY

The person making the claim simply vetted himself/herself to the owners, who then vouched for their credentials

However we are not at a point where such a step is required

If you were asking for money to help build a device I might want proof of credentials... other wise it is a moot point.

But on the internet if you state you have a degree, people will always call you on it

Writers write and talk, Engineers build... So far besides a few lifters and implied black ops projects all we have is talk. Perhaps when we can see the devices being built we night get somewhere. I don't have another  hundred years to wait
As I hear it this debate between yours and Linda's camp has been running for nigh on 6 years.

And what is there to show for all that time and frustration?

Just asking

[zorgon]

A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

The biggest "Danger" I see in all this is APATHY...

Constant debate and bickering with no progress to a solution will guarantee that "We the people.." will lose interest very quickly and will just say... "EG? Oh that... nothing to see there... hey did you hear the latest about Justin Bieber?"

APATHY

Apathy: (also called impassivity or perfunctoriness) is a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion.

"Build it and they will come!" an old wise adage

Can any one of you build me a simple lifter with an on board power supply that doesn't need wires?

I think I need to get the rust off my armor and sharpen some swords... useful skills to have in case the SHTF on Dec 21, 2012 We even have our own full size loom. We like to survive in comfort

[Linda Brown]

I always have expected that when the proper questions are UNDERSTOOD AND ASKED then doors will open to us that we never EVER realized were closed.

I believe that's the situation that is happening here.

You keep asking where the unit is that has no wires.... I expect that you might ask some Air Force or particular Navy project. I sure don't have one in my backyard and I doubt that I would get very far building it. I already know that and I think that you do too. So theres one answer I think that we might agree on?

So aren't we wasting time even talking about it?

No..... because I expect this Forum has a teaching agenda? Am I wrong? I have always hoped that if we all keep uncovering  additional information that SOMEDAY someone out there will finally put all of the dots together and get the complete view that we now lack. You have worried about there being too much information. Apparently that hasn't been the case because no one has stood up yet and yelled BINGO ( though I think many are wonderfully close!)

But why do you want to build that lifter? We are talking about Electrogravitics here. And STILL no one understands that it is NOT entirely illustrated when someone trots a "lifter" out.....

but to keep from talking about the real research toward the Biefeld-Brown Effect others will stampede you in that direction. Or perhaps off in a direction that is sure to take the focus away from the proper questions being developed!

Again Zorgon... if WE want the correct answer to something.... then WE ( not pointing you out individually but speaking as you have here... of the masses...unless you meant it as a personal request...)

Then WE need to identify the question that will lead to the proper answer and then ASK it. Build the proper ballfield and they will show up! Don't build a polo field and then sit around in bewilderment and anger because no ballplayers have walked out of the cornfield!

My personal passionate plea.  Linda

[Littleenki]

Im getting out the chain mail I wore in 1982, Z, its calling me!

What I always see when I think of the word apathy, is how close it is to Pathetic, and thats what describes those who mire themselves in pointless efforts, while ignoring the treasures around them.

I have no use for apathy, and as such no use for pathetic people as well, they just get ya killed when as you say, the S hits the F!

My Conan broadsword is somewhere in this mess...argh! Attics are hot!:)

I really think the key to a lifter that flies on it's own lies in thse tiny power supplies...



A bit of time on the bench, and some good tiny lithium batteries, and why not?

Plus, it would be the first flying mosquito zapper, and could drone about the backyard killing flies and skeeters with impunity!

Hey, doesnt the military have the patent on that? 

Anyone have a few, they are willing to wrest from the hands of the wife?

Ill be looking for that photo of you in your steel, Zorgon, I really miss the renaissance festival's old days, when we could just walk in with full chain mail and real weapons!

And of course, weave us all some Pegasus breastplate covers, so those Mayan gods will know who they are dealing with LOL!

Watchin Orion!

Cheers!
Littleenki

[Mikado]

The book, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, by Dr. Pail A. LaViolette.

As for Your CV, I would not like to know details, like, "Got degree from XYZ University, worked as [whatever] at LMQ company..."

I would like to have something like, "Got Degree (specify) at an institution specializing in [whatever], worked as a [whatever] for 5 years, worked as a [whatever] for two years, ect.

As for Me, I have no degree, but have tested as "genius" in spatial perception, with other areas all in the 98th or 99th percentile, worked in banking for 14 years, worked in graphics for 15 years, and have studied on My own, chaos theory, fractals, emergence, social engineering, psychology, with interest in the tipping point.  I also have been a writer all My life, and have published articles, manuals, ads, short stories, a novella and a book.

Just so You don't think I am asking of You something I would not offer M'self.  [grin]

Fair enough,

I would like to have something like, "Got Degree (Electronics Engineering) at an institution specializing in [Electronics technology], worked as a [self employed shop owner from 1972 till 1980] for 5 (years, worked as a [whatever] for two years, ect.

In 1980 I worked for a company that built Lasers. I was educated in small and medium frame ion lasers, both scientific and medical, CO2 medical lasers and photocoagulators. (I was honor graduate in all three classes)

In 1981, I accepted a position to teach Electronics which I did for 8 1/2 years where I developed a lesson plan teaching the 8080 processor in 1985. During that time I received my VOC ED I certificate and was working on a BA in education, I never finished the BA in education.

Taking advantage of being part of the faculty, they offered night classe where I took machine shop (beginners and advanced) and welding ( stick, MIG and TIG which was called Heliarc welding back then).


As to military experience, I was in the US Army for 18 months. I was to go to Fort Rucker for flight school but washed out due to a kidney infection and I missed my seat at the school which they then put me in the Avionics program at the SouthEastern Signal School at Fort Gordon. I graduated there as Honor Graduate and the rank of E4.

In 1997 into '98 I took law classes at a community college for Paralegal.

I also held a license for Rail inspection for all Classes of Railroads.

I am also a published writer. I had two short stories published in the mid 70's, Lesson plans for a company called NIDA in the 80's and an article in a National Model Railroad magazine in 2005.

Is that enough? I can keep going.

And since you wanted to mention your IQ, I will give mine - 148. That number and $1.36 gets you a cup of coffee, 12 oz, at the local WAWA.

Mikado

[Amaterasu]

Thank You, Mikado.  Now I have a better idea of Your experience.  Sounds like You could build something quite handily.  [smile]

(Since I gave no numbers and was speaking of the General Aptitude Test Battery (GAT-B) test, not an IQ test, per se - note I placed "genius" in quotes - I will explain that on a scale, where 100 is "average" and 130 is the 99th percentile, in spatial perception, I scored 159.)

[Linda Brown]

So.... we have AT LEAST two genius level people able to talk about  " Why Electrovitics is Dangerous"

We ought to be able to have some quality conversations on the table.

Linda

[hobbit]

Genius.
IQ.
Both are IMHO central to the question of electrogravitics been dangerous.
Dangerous to who ?
Dangerous to humans, or to the control held over humans?
The ability to store and retrieve information is central to so called IQ.

The question arises then about what is stored in the here and now moments memory of humans?
I consider the mass of that information is indoctrinated, in a repeat fashion where those able to store and retrieve this are classed as high IQ.

Just suppose that a bulk of the downloaded information is false relative to universe.
And just suppose that electrogravitics opens a portal, not to some little green men, but to information , universal information....such as Tesla could tap into?
Then think how easily the whole human population can be controlled when they are convinced that the BELIEF they have in the information they are downloaded is correct, but it is not, and it limits  to what can be interacted via the status quo presently.

Then further consider what efforts may be undertaken by whoever/whatever presently controls al;l information to maintain the status quo.


I consider We are all capable of connecting to that universal library of information...akashic records??
hobbit

[Linda Brown]

Hobbit.
You open so many possibilities that my head hurts.
Linda

[Mikado]

Thank You, Mikado.  Now I have a better idea of Your experience.  Sounds like You could build something quite handily.  [smile]

(Since I gave no numbers and was speaking of the General Aptitude Test Battery (GAT-B) test, not an IQ test, per se - note I placed "genius" in quotes - I will explain that on a scale, where 100 is "average" and 130 is the 99th percentile, in spatial perception, I scored 159.)

I wouldn't be so quick to say quite handily. I, like a few others here, have a curiosity that needs to be satisfied, like taking a long cool drink of water when really, really thirsty.

Let't hope that there are more thirsty people than not.

Mikado

[Littleenki]

Right you are Hobbit, and when we realize there is a metaphysical aspect to our universe and its mysteries, like EG, and such, we will make strides unseen.
Akashic record? You bet your sweet bippy!
Le