A Reason I Received Why Electrogravitics is "Dangerous"

[Linda Brown]

Energy is already drawn from this side.Did you mean this the way that I meant it? I was talking about draws from another dimension.


Linda

[Amaterasu]

Edward Leedskalnin had a secret that could have benefited the whole world

He took it to his grave, albeit left us cryptic clues that no ones has yet replicated

I see no gain for the good of the many

You might want to take a look at 7RedOrbs' work...  I think He has cracked the code.

[Pimander]

Energy is already drawn from this side.Did you mean this the way that I meant it? I was talking about draws from another dimension.

Yes from another dimension.  I have no proof of this, just some experiences and hunches....

[Linda Brown]

Yes from another dimension.  I have no proof of this, just some experiences and hunches....

When things get quiet around here ( yeah lets not hold our breaths! I would love to start a thread where we could talk about these observations. maybe others have seen similar? ( I sounded like Hobbit just then!!!)

Linda

[Pimander]

There is plenty of "parapsychology" and "paranormal" investigations relevant when we get time.

I thin there is some interesting material in some of Dion Fortunes novels.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

I said i would be working, but i end up here,

Hi Dave;

I do think time forwarding electrons is a good theory, or even fact, and do you think electrons are more than meets the eye, like I do?

I haven't yet witnessed it myself, but i will make careful observations as we move into the HV range, this is a distinct possibility & is linked to time travel. But transporting electrons is one thing, matter is another....
I do not believe Mikado knows any more on that subject as the rest of us, hopefully he will be able to explain further if we see him again....

and do you think electrons are more than meets the eye, like I do?

And Russell may have been on to something years ago when he proposed there are no negative particles, just discharging and charging ones, so superluminal speed would be a profound possibility for any device using milions of volts, as the electrons couldnt get back fast enough to their deparure point, and became backed up, dilating the perceived time field.

I believe it is something like that, yes.
You see, charge has not yet been defined officially, except as being relative to the surface area of an electron, and i think that don't mean squat (to use a scientific term).

Electrons simply carry the charge, they are not the nature of charge itself.
I tend to treat charge as a separate dimension, as dictated by D.A. and it works out fine....

Lots to think about, and maybe I need a climb up that hill you conquered!
With a sherpa, of course!

Hell, no: just a good pub at the end of it with steak & ale pie, and good local beer/whiskey to finish off! But the view was amazing....not really.....




Amy;
Yes, i do hear you,

IF We can get this to the tipping point.

THATS the question. I hope we will live to see it happen, i know in my heart that if we fail, there will be 100's of years of misery, simply because people never knew!
That thought infuriates me as well, and i will do my utmost to see it doesn't happen, by my reckoning, i have less than 25 years to live, so it had better happen soon.
Please don't get me wrong, you have been my guide, and will continue to be so.

Oh my, i read further...
Pimander;
I totally agree with you, just as i agree with Linda.

Hobbit:
You have just quoted from 'the left hand of the electron' by Asimov, maybe you've never heard of it, but you got to the point nonetheless!
Good for you.

Nothing is free, so this free energy thinking is deluded, especially if that energy is suddenly been taken from others that live by that supply???

We take as though We are the rightfull top of the pile as such, what happens if We suddenly realise We are well down the pecking order, such as a spring lamb is to ourselves presently.
We TAKE the lamb and kill it, skin it, disect it, carve it up and heat it up, then devour it....adding some mint sauce from a mint plant that we have also murdered.

Pimander; i read what you're saying, but IMO the energy is the same in all dimensions, just in different forms, & can always be tapped.Good luck on the paranormal phenomenon, i have been one of the lucky ones to have been 'there & back again', as Bilbo would say.....
Go forth in peace.
Luke

[Amaterasu]

Yes, Luke, if We don't succeed, most of Us will die, and Humanity will be enslaved for a long time to come.

Therefore, I spend every spare moment pushing the paradigm.

[Littleenki]

Hey, PWm, I do agree that Russell had most of it right...pretty good for an ancient alien, eh? I have pounded the idea of vibrations and cymatics for years, among friends and colleagues, and when I watch some of the old guys do it, like Russell, it warms my heart to know Im on the right path.

Really after watching the video of his work earlier, I am reminded of Matrix Traveller and his theories. very similar, wouldnt you say? I miss that dude, and Capn' Dave, too.

Roller coasters? We have the best in Florida! And all the guys who work on them are from other countries it seems!LOL! If you come near me, Ill be riding that sucker with pride!

Ben Nevis is one smashing hill, Luke, and it would kick my ass!

Wherever you end up, I wish you the best, and when you do get here, make sure to avoid the yankee steak and ale...its nothing like the real one!!!

Of course when you come over, there will be some good ol american barbecue for you to sink your teeth into, with a pitcher of ...Newcastle!

Ahhhh, ribs and Newkie Broons!:D

Cheers!
Le

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Good morning/afternoon/evening

Summing up a few points;

Energy is inter-dimensional, trans-luminal, and can be directly exchanged for mass. This seems to be connected with vibration (waves, cymatics) and with fields (spirals). So in effect, some of (or maybe all of) our energy comes from another dimension, and goes also to it.....
Are we tapping energy from another dimension & in doing so depriving some entity of life? No more than they are tapping into ours...
All things being equal "as above, so below" (are you a Mason, Hobbit?LOL) then the energy exchange between dimensions is mutual, any small differences in the local field will be subtituted for mass.

In plain English: Energy is everywhere, all the time, in every dimension.
Excesses or shortages in energy at a given point at a given time will allow for the spontaneous creation/destruction of mass.

Being able to control this mechanism would mean having the ultimate technology. We would in effect, become gods    able to create or destroy matter at will, and have unthinkable amounts of energy to play with.........

That's a long way off, & need not concern us now (but keep it in mind for the future). Hopefully by then we will have evolved emotionally enough to handle it wisely.....

Where we are now, with EG & 'free energy' experiments, are just the leading edges of this tech. We should proceed with caution, but i ask you this:

What can we, joe public do, that hasn't already been done in some secret bunker X years ago, and at far higher power levels?

These are the 'button pushers' doing so not because they really want to, they are ordered to do it, or they will miss next year's funding...think about that for a bit.

We 'fringe scientists' have that choice, we can decide whether to throw that switch or not, and i repeat, we aren't using anywhere near the power they are using.....so i say go for it, & i have mentioned already what a dangerous power level can do, & what to look out for.


L.E.:

Really after watching the video of his work earlier, I am reminded of Matrix Traveller and his theories. very similar, wouldnt you say? I miss that dude, and Capn' Dave, too.

Me too, buddy

They have nukie brown in the US?
My god, you guys are more civilised than i thought! LOL
I might bring some Kentish Spitfire ale to compare it with!

[Littleenki]

Ahhh, like a breath of fresh air, Luke quotes the second maxim...The Law of Correspondence! Love it buddy!
Its what make my container plants thrive, as above, so below...as below, so above!

I think your short concise post says it all, PWM about how others have thrown the switch at higher levels of voltage and with much bigger boats.

What I see is sort of like a child in a meadow, finding a tiny helpless butterfly(aether) and gently letting it land on her hand. Then, the butterfly shares it's beauty with the child and makes a profound impact on her life, through the peaceful understanding and careful handling of it's tiny body.

The butterfly is the prize, Luke, and as long as these mad scientists continue to try to shove a ten pound shell into a 22 caliber chamber, they wont find the grail.

When we realize what "electricity" can be versus what theyve thought it is...that will be the first day of the next phase of man's knowledge of aether and what energy really is.

Tesla's A/C?

Shifting?

As above, so below....yin and yang....balance my friend, and no more massive doses of current and the damage it does to every part of a circuit, or the entropy it creates within a device running at high current.

Voltage as a safe force? I would love to see it in my lifetime, and that coke machine that shocked me into a NDE when a boy might have been the seed sown for me to become a part of all this...who knows?

Cheers, amigo, and Ill have another two pints, as long as I dont have to share with Winston!:D
Old speckled hen for me, though!
Cheers!

Le

[hobbit]

PWMs,
look at David ovasons book as regards masons and America.
Hobbit

[Littleenki]

or this...
Le

[Amaterasu]

It's not so much that We need to "evolve emotionally" as We need to remove profit motive.  Virtually all evil is driven by money/power in an energy-scarce society.  In energy abundance, there is no money or power over Others to be had; ergo, no motive for evil.

[Linda Brown]

This is one point where we will disagree Amy and unfortuneately it is a basic issue. We are both thinking that one thing will change society... I believe recieving the wisdom will do it... and the decisions will flow downhill from there to eventually find us where you want to go...

You believe that its not the wisdom  that will promote the change but the change that will prove out the wisdom.
Perhaps we just have to see that maybe its something that neither of us have considered before and that both of us had fallen in the " either / or trap.

In any case. At the very least we are thinking about the possibilities and without that for SURE... Nothing will happen.   Linda

[Littleenki]

Society needs to change its diaper and move on, and the ones who have perpetrated this ridiculous  so called civilization of ours for millenia, need to be reeducated or just die off.
The secret is to learn the real needs of a society and apply them with love and kindness, and some will never change, so those ones need to be separated so we may carry on with the new world we deserve.
Basically a hybrid of Amys and Lindas ideas, is what is needed.

And a big island for the ones who want to keep up the failed doctrines.
Le