Animals trying to speak to us?

[zerocd]

We have St. Francis genes around here. Everyone wants to come back as one of our pets. Current pack is three rescue black labs/mixes, two from pups, and three rescue cats from kittens. Our pets are taught and we make them as smart as possible. Be all they can be. The dogs get to run on long walks in the woods daily. I can bring kittens for a couple months on the walks (until they get curious and want to self educate, do it their own instinctive way) We have year round inside outside cats, all "fixed", all are up to date at the vet and all have claws.

So, I have busy active pets that display incredible language skills, mostly silent but loud and clear.

I work out of the house and also have a business house nearby. Close enough that the cats and dogs know their way between.

Grandmother could talk to birds, feed them out of her hands and some would come in and out of her house in Florida.
She drove from Florida to Baltimore when he moved and the bird road shotgun with a pole for a perch.

She had it bad and always had strays to stay or pass through.

Mom had generations of squirrels that lived nearby and eat out her lap, also big bird watcher. All of us have cats and dogs.

We use leashes only at special times for the dogs but train for no leash. We are able to stay at some of the big chain hotels without problems.

Once you make them all they can be, their is no turning back. those beings need care and interaction. All are emotional individuals.

[Amaterasu]

If we were able to communciate with the animal life on this planet, can you see how well organized everything would be?

Pollination, fertalization, seed dispersal, soil aeration... what else?


The war like nature that we have developed within our systems is detramental to our evolution and our very existence. Resources are being wasted and permanently damaged.

What happens to the tools of war... bombs etc from previous generations? We spent Billions of dollars on these unnecessary tools and continue to do so. Meanwhile neglecting Primary systems.

( In other words we foolishly throw away money and resources we can't afford in the first place. Then rob Peter to pay Paul. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that we've been spreading lies around our societies for far too long. No one likes to be fed BS and told it's candy, and we know when we are. )

I don't mean any one Country either, as most have fell into this trap. Spend Billions of dollars on Weapons and allow starvation, pollution and uneducation to flourish? That is a breeding nest for chaos, and that is not humane.

Spend money on World Wide Education and we will eliminate the seeds of hatred with seeds of knowledge instead. We will have no need for these expensive tools of war and we will flourish instead of wither.

At the very least if we spent that money on creating Peace instead of War and invested into the repair of our planet and societies, who would want war with us?

There comes a point when it is too late. There comes a point where you can not repair the damage. There comes a point when even something so loved and cherished is lost forever. There comes a point where there is nothing more that you can do but pray.

If there is Hope, if there is Reason left in us to do whats right, then we must take action, while there is still a chance.

This is our World - all of us in it, from the grasshopper to the leaders of nations, all are accountable. We can turn this place into a beautiful garden or a diseased festering dump.

I would rather live in a Graden in Peace than a Diseased Dump.

If we continue down this destructive path of pesticides, pollution and lack of respect for the balance within nature what result can we expect?



What can we use instead of pesticides? Bats, birds, insects...?

Can we not create filtration systems for these pollution emitting machines...?

Can we not create anything we want and use what we have to do it?

What can't we do correctly if we try?

Why is Evil being Allowed to prevail?



I have no doubt that we can create machines to both allow us to communicate via brain waves and also block them.

I have no doubt that we can create machines that will allow us to cross the Universe in seconds.

I have no doubt that we can fix what we have broken.

I have no doubt that we can create anything we can imagine.

I have no doubt that there is a God.

I have no doubt that there is a Devil.

My only doubt is in Humanity and I think many feel the same.

How do we fix that, because if we do then we will have it all.

If the animals aren't trying to speak to us, then they should be - telling us to get off our asses. lol

The way society is now, I don't want to invent anything, as it will only be taken away, hidden from the public, abused and or used as a weapon. I'm tired of lining the pockets of fools with gold.

The reason We spend so much on war is because the war profiteers incite war, control the governments, promote fear to justify spending, and so on.  It really is just a very few who are responsible for this whole mess.  By eliminating the need for money (through free energy), such waste of resources and lives would not occur.

[rdunk]

My comments will not be a part of the "animal fairytale" Animals - wild and domestic, were created with brains of various sizes, to support their lives in the wild, and in domestication. Various tests, including Pavlov's dog, have shown that animals can be trained to some point, but, no where is there any real thought about animals being anyway near par nor superior,  to humans, except maybe in the Movie, "The Planet of The Apes", which is another "fairy tale".

Animals are animals. Put a pile of animals on an unpopulated planet - come back in a hundred years, or a thousand years, and you will find a lot bigger pile of animals. That is what they are, and that is all they are - animals.

And I am sorry, considering some of this discussion, but I see no real reason to think otherwise! Don't misunderstand, I love "pet animals", and have had numerous. And my pets always showed strong feelings for me, but.......................they are just animals, even though the feelings they sometimes show can make one feel they are more than that. Of course, because we can get so attached to our pets, I always get emotional when one of them dies.

[Littleenki]

I grew up thinking Mr Ed really could talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0eoStyRPJ8&feature=related

Communication other than verbal is via our largely dormant senses, and our animal friends must find humans really quite dumb?
And the plant life forms also, I think this discussion could well dovetail with electrogravitics
hobbit

As you pose, Hobbit, the salmon are wise....as is the vegetable romesco, and the beautiful sunflower.
The flows are creating the most beautiful fibonacci artwork in our world's plants, and thats what shows one how heart centered spirals really exist.

It also indicates the force we know as gravity is one of the building blocks to life, and not just the way we keep from flying into space.

Im curious if the magnetism in certain areas of the world create different versions of the same plant species, and animals, or are they inherently different no matter what?
Do the Earth's natural Cymatic resonances help that gravity along, like a symphony of creation?

So, it appears, the DNA helix is our human version of the wise romesco!

Those spirals?...once again, the saying...return,return,return, has profound basis in life...

Dangit! now I want some cedar plank salmon, with a side of steamed romesco!LOL!

Cheers, and happy sunday!
HH Littleenki

[Amaterasu]

Interestingly...  In Dr. LaViolette's book, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, one of the noted effects of, I think it was the Searl disc, was health benefits when staying near it...  (Could be wrong on the specific device, but one of thos EG devices showed this effect.)

[Littleenki]

My comments will not be a part of the "animal fairytale" Animals - wild and domestic, were created with brains of various sizes, to support their lives in the wild, and in domestication. Various tests, including Pavlov's dog, have shown that animals can be trained to some point, but, no where is there any real thought about animals being anyway near par nor superior,  to humans, except maybe in the Movie, "The Planet of The Apes", which is another "fairy tale".

Animals are animals. Put a pile of animals on an unpopulated planet - come back in a hundred years, or a thousand years, and you will find a lot bigger pile of animals. That is what they are, and that is all they are - animals.

And I am sorry, considering some of this discussion, but I see no real reason to think otherwise! Don't misunderstand, I love "pet animals", and have had numerous. And my pets always showed strong feelings for me, but.......................they are just animals, even though the feelings they sometimes show can make one feel they are more than that. Of course, because we can get so attached to our pets, I always get emotional when one of them dies.

Hey, Rdunk, good point you have there, but you knew someone would come back, so here goes!

I think what your saying has some merit, as Ive also thought of animals as placed here on earth as tools for our lesson plan, and a way to show how we, during this lesson plan we call life, are exposed to different lifeforms and how we react to them.
Animals dont have to be smarter than us or better than us, although they may be here to teach us.

Of course, from a Biblical standpoint, the so called GOD created them for man's needs, and gave them brains so they can procreate, and assimilate to their environs, and then killed and eaten.

That story is quack, IMHO, and the bible was written by people who didnt respect or give two shits about an animal unless it was on a plate, so biblical philosophy towards animals is an empty bottle of sleeping pills, waiting to drift into non-reality land.

We as humans, have learned some of the importance of animals, and until we see the true requirements we have for food, and how it is all around us in plant form, we wont move into the golden age everyone speaks of, where all thinking, seeing creatures are here for the same reason.
To experience life at it's core, and live through humanity and it's wonders, along with all the other "bird and bees" who have every right to live that we do.

I wonder what that great white shark would have to say to you if you swam into it's area?
Id guess as a human, it would bow to you, and respect your human grace and power with all of it's heart....NOT!!!!
It would snap your  body up like so many rags, and tear you to pieces. YOU would be eaten.

Now, why would GOD tell us the animals are here for us to enjoy the flavor of, when many of the animals in the world could eat us with ease? I truly wonder what an animal bible would read like....

Chapter One...."Go forth young cheetah, and tear and rend the flesh of that pygmy..he is here for you to eat, and is nothing but a bit of fodder for your palate."

Chapter two...."Eat the human, as they would eat you"

Chapter Three...."Humans? you mean dinner, right?"


Hmmm, that sounds frightening, and regardless of how the Pavlov dog behaved, as long as we are trying to understand something we shouldnt, erroneous outcomes will occur during these apparently useless experiments.

Now, I must quote you from that last post...Animals are animals. Put a pile of animals on an unpopulated planet - come back in a hundred years, or a thousand years, and you will find a lot bigger pile of animals.

Well, Rdunk, how do we compare to animals in the grand scheme of things?

Place a thousand humans on a planet and come back in a hundred years, and all goodness and grace will be gone. They will have killed each other, raped each other, stole from each other, and ultimately become their own Sodom and Gomorrah, waiting to happen....so, who is the animal now?

I will always place the animals of the world on a pedestal, and ironically eat some of them, but I still know they are pure, and have a greater meaning here than just some meatball fodder waiting to be ground up and baked.

Hell, now's as good a time to become a vegetarian as any, since the meat we eat is so f-ed up and genetically modified, it isnt even close to the original, which was perfection in every way.

Grab a tofu block and start chopping, Rdunk, it's dinnertime!LOL!

Cheers!
Littleenki

[Amaterasu]

Enki, I gave You gold, but disagree with Your assessment of how Humans would turn out.  It all depends on the societal chaos seed They are begun with.

As long as there is plenty of energy, and three simple Laws, You will find a golden society when You return.

[Linda Brown]

Yea Reconn!!

http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/the_poodle_and_dog_blog/2008/03/yorkie-doodle-d.html

Linda

[Captain Dave]

It's all in what you're taught as you grow up. You could just as easily have been taught not to eat meat and that it's a Bad thing to do so.

Society is teaching us what's acceptable and whats not from an early age. So, the question is - Is society teaching us the right things?

I'm torn between logic and what I've been taught.

I love steak, especially with greek seasoning... Pork, chicken, goat, lamb, cows, fish, crabs, lobster, emu, turkey, venison and more, I've chowed em all down. Mmmm Mmmm Good too. Because it's acceptable, it's what I was taught.

Now logically, I know they are sentient beings, with real lives and feelings, but society has taught me it's ok to chew em up and feel good about it. I know there are substitutes like Tofu I can eat, but I don't. I know I could eat all vegetables and still survive, but I don't. Because I've been brainwashed. Which still doesn't make it right.

Lets just talk crazy for a second (haha my forte). What if this place is full of "aliens" from around the Universe. A "melting pot world" as Undo has phrased it in another thread. Then ya know what - WE'RE EATING THE OTHER ALIENS!

- Oh and if reincarnation is real, then we're eating relatives!

How advanced are we really? We're all high and mighty - Truly "Sentient" beings, capable of Love and Compassion and higher reasoning. Umm, we're demonstrating the exact opposite! Just because we create expensive toys that doesn't mean we are better. Birds can fly without machines - we can't. Spiders build webs without machines - in advanced geometric patterns -we can't. Etc Etc Etc

When the english came to America, they considered the Indian's "lesser" beings... Savages they were called. A couple hundred years later, society is eating those words and realizing they were wrong.

So if we go to another world and the beings there aren't up to par with what We consider "Intelligent", then I guess we'll just EAT THEM if they taste good!

We aren't any better than the Sharks!



The videos prove that we can become friends with animals. Whether we choose to do so, whether we choose to do what's right, is another matter.

( Oh and using the oldest of ancient languages - mental telepathy, we can communicate with them. Most choose not to. Just like I choose not to accept the human hive mind scenario. )

[Amaterasu]

<----- a virtual vegetarian, contemplates saitan with Greek seasoning...

[Littleenki]

Gold for you, Captain Dave, and a promotion to Admiral as well!
You truly are a wise man, my friend, a wise man for sure, and your tagline is my belief is will save us....education for free, and knowledge for all online right in their faces!FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers!
Littleenki(the other captain Dave)

[Littleenki]

<----- a virtual vegetarian, contemplates saitan with Greek seasoning...

Seitan is good, and a shoe would be good with greek seasoning!LOL!
Im making a feta cheesy casserole tonight with my organic zucchini I got this morning, and will enjoy every minute of its veggy goodness!
Complete with fenugreek and fresh organic oregano I grew in my garden.
I truly wish zucchini casserole could be shipped quickly to you, Am, I really do!
Cheers!
Littleenki

[Captain Dave]

<----- a virtual vegetarian, contemplates saitan with Greek seasoning...

Whew, thought you were talking about the Saitan/Neitan prophecies there for a second, till I found Seitan the Vegetarian white meat. LOL that was scary! I was like WHat WhAT!?

Have to check into Seitan. - Thanks


And Thanks Littleenki!

[Amaterasu]

Cap'n, You had Me ROFLing!

Enki, I wanna come to dinner!

[rdunk]

Yes Littleenki, I did expect an opposing comment or two! I really only posted to bring a "normal opinion" about animals to this thread.

One thing for sure that humans are able to do, is to believe anything their hearts desire, but their believing a thing does not make it truth. Regarding animals, I suppose down through the ages, they have been held at various levels of esteem, including up to being god figures, in some religions. I think even today, some animal types are considered as sacred by followers in some religions.

Animals have been vaunted to great heights, in societal action, entertainment, and function, by we humans for many many years. But the huge majority of that has come about in the venue of "make-believe". Animals have been "brought to life", in every aspect of our daily lives, in movies, TV, with kids toys, etc.. We humans have gone to great lengths to make animals appear completely humanish, and "life-like. They are depicted as being able to talk, as getting mad, sad, and as being happy, and as having involved and complicated lives in every way like humans. Just last month, we gave our four year old grandson a "walking", "talking". and "farting" (yes farting)  dinosaur for his birthday. And, right now he is excited about going this summer to see where Mickey Mouse lives, at Disney World.

However, IMHO, I believe we humans are a bit in trouble, when we start believing our own make believe!

Now littleenki, you saId, "Place a thousand humans on a planet and come back in a hundred years, and all goodness and grace will be gone. They will have killed each other, raped each other, stole from each other, and ultimately become their own Sodom and Gomorrah, waiting to happen....so, who is the animal now"?

That statement I believe is not correct. As you did mention the "Bible" earlier, I will note that from the Bible we can know that "goodness and grace" being gone, as you mentioned, came as a result of Adam and Eve's disobedience of God, in the Garden of Eden. And that is the root of all evil until today.

But, I still disagree with your statement about man, in general, because, over thousands of years here, man has survived quite well, overall. Yes, there are "works of the devil" going on such as you suggest, and there will be until after the Biblical end time. But, in the main, man continues to advance in most areas of life. with vast advances in technology. Yes, there are still elements of "Sodom and Gomorrah", but  it is obvious that man is moving forward. However, we may be seeing a lot going on in this world today, that might suggest an imminent decline toward man's self destruction, at or near the end time!?

But, for this thread, over those thousands of years mentioned, for man's existence, the animals still have remained animals.  Animals are animals, and there is no reason to expect that to change, IMO. We love to love them, and they (our pets) seem to mostly love us - I use the term "love" for the animal's show of feelings toward us, while it may be not much more than DNA-gratitude for the food we give them when they are hungry.