The Gold Ring

[Littleenki]

notice anything about that unit?

The torus is a Gold Ring



Keep yer EG I will put my money on clean fusion tech . I hear there is enough on the Moon to power the planet for 100,000 years

What I notice about that image, is the rings around the torus arent wound like a coil, but independent of each other. as they may represent the vectors created by the filed around the torus, I wonder why they are depicted as gold wires, or....Gold Rings.

Another thing I dont know if anyone here noticed, is that the JLN lifter design, is basically a flying electrohydrodynamic fan/loudspeaker.

Lifters as a drone communication device?

I have designed a EHD speaker that is shaped like a pyramid, so anything goes I guess.
Drawing to come.....

As far as Eg versus fusion, Zorgon, was that a silly, or a serious?

Im not familiar with H3 except that someone said the moon is full of it once.

Just a thought...
Littleenki

[Mikado]

Zorgon,

Jumping in here with a few thoughts. I see you are talking lifters and the question arises - are lifters really a demonstration of the BB effect?

The answer is yes and no.

A lifter is essentially EHD (ElectroHydroDynamics). It is lifted by ion wind but it also has an EG component. It is also an asymmetric capacitor.

Think of it as an ionic breeze that is light enough to move.

The Biefeld-Brown effect states that the negative pole will always chase the positive. Reverse the leads on a lifter, it will still lift.

Just a few thoughts,

Mikado

[Shasta56]

This is all very interesting.  For my part, I will leave the lifter building to people who don't have track record of trying to set the house on fire, and a baker's dozen of curious felines to boot.  I don't want to be on national news.

Shasta

[burntheships]

I don't want to be on national news.

Yes, we would not want to go missing
such as Ning Li...

[1Worldwatcher]

Zorgon,
Jumping in here with a few thoughts. I see you are talking lifters and the question arises - are lifters really a demonstration of the BB effect?
The answer is yes and no.
A lifter is essentially EHD (ElectroHydroDynamics). It is lifted by ion wind but it also has an EG component. It is also an asymmetric capacitor.
Think of it as an ionic breeze that is light enough to move.
The Biefeld-Brown effect states that the negative pole will always chase the positive. Reverse the leads on a lifter, it will still lift.
Just a few thoughts,
Mikado

Yes we are aware of the Ionization winds Mikado, being's this is your forte, what would you suppose as a device of similar low input and high out put yields in this case?
Am very curious too hear your take on suchthing's being problematic or possible.
Thanks for your educated assessment.

[Mikado]

Yes we are aware of the Ionization winds Mikado, being's this is your forte, what would you suppose as a device of similar low input and high out put yields in this case?

At this point, from available data, I would say that the device would not be a lifter. At this time, I would say a Gravitor based upon data I have collected so far.

Am very curious too hear your take on suchthing's being problematic or possible.
Thanks for your educated assessment.

Could you expand on this a bit more. I don't want to assume your questions meaning.

Mikado

[Pimander]

The torus is a Gold Ring

ORMEs?  White Powder Gold.  At high temperatures they have been shown to have negative mass (i.e. levitate).

This needs a thread.

P.S. ORMEs: Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements.

[Littleenki]

This is all very interesting.  For my part, I will leave the lifter building to people who don't have track record of trying to set the house on fire, and a baker's dozen of curious felines to boot.  I don't want to be on national news.

Shasta

You can do it! as that guy in the waterboy said!

What I found dangerous about lifters is the tiny wires are so flimsy, if they arent supported well, they will drop or swing around easily, and the hands need to be well clear! ZZZZAP!
With a bit of vigilance when doing the setup, as you see it's ok for an 8th grade class.

What would worry me if a bigger lifter was constructed, would be the temporal effects it might cause, and if you look at that lesson above on Naudin's site, youll see it's called the transdimensional lifter project, and that says it all.

Transdimensional is defined as: being able to transcend more than one dimension at once, like space and time, relating to inter and extradimensional travel.

For some his site is fun and easy to read, but it is full of innuendo and suggestive ideas, cloaked in simple words, and the person who goes there can enjoy a bit of amazing reading, or have themselves shoved down the rabbit hole tenfold, when they see what really happens during certain free energy experiements.

Most engineering minds just dont get it, and look for obvious answers to their problems with their specific experiment, but those who look deeper will find a treasure trove of hidden Gold Rings on every page!

I have.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/

Naudin hasnt done much lately, and thats because he may have found the key, and now he's not willing to share it as much. It's ok, we might not be ready for it.

Check this one out...

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepprinc.htm

This abstract is for a device to use time differentials...whoa...what?..to create free energy.

So what happens when a lifter lifts? More than meets the eye...hence transdimensional.

Now, why would he call it that?

I hope you build one now Shasta, as it really is a little time machine!:D

Just keep the cats away!:D

Cheers
Littleenki

[1Worldwatcher]

At this point, from available data, I would say that the device would not be a lifter. At this time, I would say a Gravitor based upon data I have collected so far.

So, there are such things as gravitator's that are capable of producing low input high yield results then? Do these devices, or are these devices accessable with mere layman's garage tools? Could we , as a group build such a thing with little too no cost?

Could you expand on this a bit more. I don't want to assume your questions meaning.
Mikado

With the "Gold Ring" theory, and the mention of "White Gold" properties by Pimander being Neg. G substance, do you think there is feasible applications for someone such as our selves to produce a flux that would change the properties of the gravitational fields to a negative state, or repulsion state?
Boyd Bushman had given a fine example for how certain materials seem to interact with each other that do seem to be repulsing the gravity effect, with Mr. Bushman's credentials and with explanation of the effect, it is seemingly not only "Possible" but "Practical" for applications of such a nature. Mr. Bushman had initially used simple common pipes to give his experiment visual life, one conductive the other nonconductive, with a magnetic steel ball bearing, he put it to the test, as the Bearing fell through the nonconductive tube, it was 4X's slower too fall through than with he conductive, this allows me to accept that there is something to consider as far as materials and expenditures for such a venture of creating an antigravity effect.
And do you believe , there is in fact, such a thing as Antigravity and that we currently understand it?

1Wordlwatcher

[Littleenki]

Mornin' 1WW,

The magnet through the copper pipe is an effect that occurs due to the eddy currents of the magnet interacting with the pipe's conductive nature.

It also is one of the core principles as to how a searl generator works, in my opinion.

Heres a link to describe that effect, and its pretty easy stuff to understand as this page is called the kitchen sink!

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/kitchenscience/garage-science/exp/mysterious-forces-eddy-currents/

How it applies here, isnt clear but of course, many things arent as they seem!

Cheers 1WW, have a great week ahead!
Littleenki

[Littleenki]

Now, ORME is a slighly different cat to feed, and it's where the normal understanding of the universe goes awry.

Millenia ago, it was said that numerous energy devices operated on ORME gold, and it was an alchemist's secret how to make it. Heck even some have theorized the giza pyramid was a giant ORME creator, and was what the Egyptians used to gain powers they had.

Heres a phrase from the Halexandria site which has the most comprehensive listing of ORME based knowledge:

ORME


The ORME -- related to Star Fire, and also known as The Philosopher's Stone, the Elixir of Life, the White Powder of Gold, Ma-na or Manna, even potentially Morning Dew -- is also an acronym for "Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements".  The phrase was coined by David Radius Hudson, who has done an enormous amount of research on the subject (of which he has in turn shared with thousands of others).   The word ORME -- perhaps coincidentally, or perhaps not -- is the same as the Hebrew word which means: the "Tree of Life".   

http://www.halexandria.org/dward466.htm

In addition to all of this reading, ask yourself, why were these secrets hidden, and made esoteric?

Was ORME formed in the Orion nebula, as was all human life on Earth?(IMHO....)

Have you ever looked into the Orion Nebula, and it's close symmetry with our creation myths such as the bible and the new testament?

It all comes together at some point for many, while others just cast it aside as fodder, and thats what has kept mankind from rediscovering the alchemist's secrets for all these years.

Heres another cool link for some brain candy involving Orion and the indoctrination perpetuated by the Roman Catholic church.



Somewhere there is a secret part that will make our lifter soar effortlessly, and inthese many pages we shall eventually find it and yell BINGO! as Linda has posed!

Cheers, 1WW!
Littleenki

[Mikado]

So, there are such things as gravitator's that are capable of producing low input high yield results then? Do these devices, or are these devices accessable with mere layman's garage tools? Could we , as a group build such a thing with little too no cost?

First off, thanks for coming back to clarify.

You used the word Gravitator where as I used the word Gravitor. I see a difference. Take the word rotator. The definition is merely something that rotates. That would mean that a Gravitator would be defined as something that gravitates.

A Gravitor is much more. As another example, look at the word Capacitor. It is derived from the word Capacitance which can simply be described as the ability to hold a charge. Of course there is much more going on in a Capacitor and many variables such as permittivity and reactance as well as how it reacts to changes in frequency to name a few. It is not called a Capacitator for it is more complicated than that.

A Gravitor involves everything that is involved in a Capacitor. However, it is designed to create a Gravity field. Just as a Resistor creates resistance, an inductor creates inductance and these are not called Resistator or inductator.

I believe the confusion, in my opinion, began in the early experiments when it was found that the negative "gravitated" toward the positive and thus the word "gravitator" was coined.

Now, judging your posting and the way you write, I am sure you understand my position in the use of the word which now brings me to answer your question:

As to having the ability to build it yourself in a garage I would answer yes. However, contract machining would be required for the plates and dielectrics. Also, a lathe and a mill would help a good deal as well but then these can be in the home garage as well.

With the "Gold Ring" theory, and the mention of "White Gold" properties by Pimander being Neg. G substance, do you think there is feasible applications for someone such as our selves to produce a flux that would change the properties of the gravitational fields to a negative state, or repulsion state?

I really can't answer directly. I do think that there are "more ways to skin a cat" (sorry cat) in regard to creating a gravity field than just a Gravitor. A repulsion state you say? How about this, what if a gravity field has polarity? I do know that the Gravitor I mentioned in other posts would either decrease it's weight or increase it's weight depending upon  the polarity of the lead.

Boyd Bushman had given a fine example for how certain materials seem to interact with each other that do seem to be repulsing the gravity effect, with Mr. Bushman's credentials and with explanation of the effect, it is seemingly not only "Possible" but "Practical" for applications of such a nature. Mr. Bushman had initially used simple common pipes to give his experiment visual life, one conductive the other nonconductive, with a magnetic steel ball bearing, he put it to the test, as the Bearing fell through the nonconductive tube, it was 4X's slower too fall through than with he conductive, this allows me to accept that there is something to consider as far as materials and expenditures for such a venture of creating an antigravity effect.
And do you believe , there is in fact, such a thing as Antigravity and that we currently understand it?

1Wordlwatcher

I must admit to not knowing Boyd Bushman but there is something ringing a bell about the experiment you mentioned. However, I do believe mercury will play a part at some point in the future but how, I am not sure, just a gut feeling at this point.

As to the term "Antigravity", I do not believe it exists. I believe there is a relationship between Electricity, Magnetism and Gravity. To have "Antigravity" would mean that there would be "Anti-electricity" or "Anti-magnetism" and I don't believe, at the present, that the universe we live in will accept that.

However, one could look at an airplane as "antigravity" for it does counter gravity but I am not buying that description..<g>

I hope I have addressed your questions and if not, ask again.

Best

Mikado

[stealthyaroura]

read this and tell me what you think.

David L. Wenbert:

Let them all have The Big Secret: that 'Voltage' is FASTER than 'Current', and that fast switching can exploit this, drawing on any source of ambient electrons in the environment (earth, air, water). Its ultimately how ALL FE/OU devices work; Bearden was right - establish the Dipole, and switch so that it is never discharged/shorted and you can draw free current forever. Voltage propagates faster (up to at least 8x "c", speed of light), whereas current in a solid conductor propagates at something slightly less than "c". That's IT, that's the Secret. Everything else is window dressing. It's like Hans Bethe said about the Atom Bomb, "the big secret was that it was possible; once you know THAT, anyone could figure out how to make it work..."
There are a few reasons why I think his comments have merit.

Tesla claimed that longitudinal waves from his system propagated faster than the speed of light.
When you close a circuit the current lags the voltage. The voltage seems to be there instantly.
Tesla used fast switching to produce disturbances or impulses in the aether and prevent current flow, by doing so he was able to produce a pure flow of aether that he could magnify.

[Mikado]

read this and tell me what you think.

The propagation of "voltage", which is called the electric field, is considered to be c.

Electron drift, which is the actual electron or current, is usually calculated in physics as millimeters/hour and is dependent upon the electric field intensity.

When no field is present, the free electrons usually just bounce around at the Fermi velocity the amount of which defines a conductor from an insulator.

Mikado

[rose]

ORMEs?  White Powder Gold.  At high temperatures they have been shown to have negative mass (i.e. levitate).

This needs a thread.

P.S. ORMEs: Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements.

You may well be right, Pimander

In the process of working with Linda Brown, I was allowed to see printouts of some of the email correspondence between Paul Schatzkin, and the character then known as Morgan. I don't have the document now, or I would be able to give you a direct quote, but in one of the exchanges, Paul was told the 'manna from heaven" story was real.

Now, as to whether or not the "real Morgan" was the "real author",  of that message, I can't say.  Nobody can without having witnessed whose hand was on the keyboard. All I can say for sure is that though the messages were quite terse, somebody posting from a Blackberry seemed to bring forth some important information.

rose