Charles Hall and The Tall Whites

[astr0144]

I had these images saved for several years before I posted them on any forum. Some of the pictures are new there are several pics that I have only posted on PRC.  I had posted some of these pics on AS Forum the ones with the 3 white Oval Craft and the rectangle and just to the north the 2 more rectangles. Those Clouds and black shadows had shown up one day like out of nowhere. Thats was after I posted the pics on AS. I had all my material removed from AS because Admins hack your account and write things about you and I have absolute proof.

I am not as familiar with some of the more indepth issues on other forums... but I did join A.S and A.T.S a few weeks before I was invited to Join P.R.C.

I recall seeing some of your posts on Bob Lazar, but I did not notice the Charles Hall Tall Whites thread...as I got mainly interested in P.R.C..
If you posted the images on A.S  and they got removed...then that is concerning...Not sure about Ed Fouche if he is legit or not !

Now before I left AS forum I copied what I had posted on there about Hall on 5-6-2012 posted the Story on Universal Spectrum Forum. Scott Jordan that runs the forum and I were going to interview Charles Hall for Scott Jordans Spectrum Radio.

Interesting !  Good that you had considered it and were able to attempt to contact him !  Was the Uni Spec Forum seperate from A.S or part of it ?  I assume Scott ran a seperate forum....so I am not  fully clear of Scott and Ed Fouches connection

Scott Jordan had contacted Marie Hall Charles wife an interview date had been set. But a problem happened Edgar Fouche talked Scott Jordan into calling Charles Hall back and ask Hall to send proof he was in the Air Force and his DD-214 Document. I had no clue this was going on and I never would had allowed this to take place. Well guess what Halls wife was completely insulted and Hall has had others attack him on radio. Ed ruined interview before it took place.  We were going to have a full 2 hour interview with Hall on skype!!


Unfortunate and disappointing for you and all of us ! Did Ed have good reason to suggest this or not...reminds me maybe when they try to get Bob Lazar to prove his background..

Capt David Coote had already checked into Charles Halls background and ever interviewed 2 or 3 gentleman who were enlisted with Hall. You know I cant find one person who will come forward and say he was in the Air Force with Edgar Fouche!! So how dare Ed manipulate Scott Jordan into calling back after an interview date was set and destroy the interview. Ed knew that Hall and his wife would be insulted and anyone who has studied Hall knows he has been looked into!!

I would had assumed that it would had been easy to Prove that Charles Hall had been in the A.F or that Ed Fouche would have known with certainty...IF Ed Fouche did not...then I maybe understand him asking ...but at the same time if he interveined and destroyed the chance of the interview...maybe knowingly...then this does seem wrong.
I can only assume that if he for what ever reason did not know...that if it was in connection with his forum...then this was a condition that he requested...

I get heated this  was my chance to talk to Hall. I used to post about Charles Hall back on The OMF Forum under John Lears Special Guest section. I absolutely think the story is 100% real !!  I also find very interesting is that S-4 and The Main Hanger of The Talls are on the same Latitude.

Unfortunately I never got around to reading those posts on OMF as I had only joined a few weeks before it closed...

But this is a good story and if you have  researched to try or have managed to find some proof...then that is no doubt worth while..

Charles Hall seems legit...and if not one would wonder why if would tell tales..considering his backgound and qualifications....
BUt at the same time...I myself would have to ask why he would risk spilling the story...and would have believed that he would had been chosen as someone who was trusted not to do so.and would had signed an agreement not to release such information openly..
Again you would think he was at high risk in doing so.

[ShotInTheDark]

Ok check this out as I stated the other day. I had found a new landing site between the mountains to the west of DogBone Lake and Old Ranges 3 and 4 North of Indian Springs AFB.
After I found this area this is what happenned to my Google Earth Now Notice the shape


Now take a look at the Govt Block of Land that Area-51 and all these other locations are on its identical I mean look:


Now my friend Primus58 and I tried all kinds of different ways the get rid of the blacked out area. He was just as puzzled as I was. What are the odds of a Glitch to be the same shape as the Govt Block of land.??

If you look at post # 57 this is what I had found right before the black out!!


Also right now certain images are down on Photobucket.

[astr0144]

Glad that you can still make some images in your posts...but I can see that some are still missing...Hope that you can find out what happened or if you were hacked and rectify things...that is concerning indeed...

Now you refer to Google Earth...I can see the black out on your image in comparison to the NTS / Nellis range map..

BUT this has not been blacked on Google Maps..

I have not checked my google earth since you posted this thread..but it was working ok around Area 51 last time I looked a few months ago.

I can see google earth offered on googles map page...BUT I thought you needed to download G.E....or can you see it direct online now without download...and IF so...I wonder if they varies between the old download and a online direct usable edition...( if this is now the case)..

I took a copy of some of your images just incase they disappear again..!

On the Hillside entrances...These would be hidden from anyone looking from the South if say one had a powerful telescope observing from Mount Charleston ...maybe 30 to 45 miles away...But on a 45 magification...it would only seem a mile away...and you maybe able to see enough detail..

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After I found this area this is what happenned to my Google Earth Now Notice the shape

[astr0144]

Just to Confirm to you..........

I tried the Google maps google earth online option, but It says I need a plug in for it to work...

So I just tried my downloaded version which has been updated to 2012..

and I do not see any large blacked out section where the NTS and Nellis ranges are like you seem to be suggesting in your screenshot...

I can see all the area....and its similar to what I can see with google Maps...
except I can view things from any angle...

I looked at Dogbone lake where the Whites entrances may be...and I do get all the same cloud cover as is also shown on google maps when one zooms in....


SO..CAN YOU can only see a blacked out area no matter how much you zoom in or out over this area ?   IF so...Is this on a downloaded version or online version ?   Can / Have you tried the online version or if so have you tried the download version..

IF so and it occurrs on both...IF you have another computer, can you try a new download ?

It seems incredibly strange if its just you that has this problem !!!
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Ok check this out as I stated the other day. I had found a new landing site between the mountains to the west of DogBone Lake and Old Ranges 3 and 4 North of Indian Springs AFB.
After I found this area this is what happenned to my Google Earth Now Notice the shape


Now take a look at the Govt Block of Land that Area-51 and all these other locations are on its identical I mean look:

[ShotInTheDark]

Yes I have the latest Google Earth. This computer I have is an absolute beast its ony 5 months old I clean it completely once every couple weeks never ever had a problem before. I can show you pics where I have zoomed completely out and its still black. I have removed the Pin needles and its still black. Primus and I went through this a couple nights ago and he was puzzled as much as myself it actually is bothering me right now. I have not even tried GE today.

I'm leaving it alone for a day or so, I had run my paid for Registry Mechanic and cleaned out my PC went to GE yesterday and as soon as I started to zoom in near Dogbone it went black again. In the same shape as The Govt Map I find it very strange. Was I on to something? Don't know. I would like to say that I love this forum and I'm so glad to have the friends I do on here I love posting. We are here to find the truth and at the same time we all have each others back like one Big Family. I'm very happy Astro144 that you have copied pics that's cool.

I have finally been able to get in my Photobucket account i made some changes in case it was hacked. If this keeps up we will figure another way to post the photos I think its important that we stick together and keep this important story going.

[zorgon]

In the same shape as The Govt Map I find it very strange.

Sounds like you have an overlay problem  if the glitch is same shape as that map.

you might want to check your GE saved preferences in the options boxes on the left

[Somamech]

I get the same blacked out area in my GE.  I'm not at home to check it now but iirc the blacked out section appears from the late 2010 maps onwards in the time slider.

A little OT but its quite interesting to move the time slider all the way back to the first map and single click all the way to the latest map.  I've been thinking of a way to hook into the API to automatically click and take a screen grab with processing but not too sure if its possible as the code I have found is a bit dated.

http://processing.org/

Sorry for getting off the topic of tall whites.. fascinating indeed 

[robomont]

what i dont understand is why dont the russians and chinese dont share their intel with us.i would think there would be no way to hide anything.we really could use a third party satellite.

[08rubicon]

  Might check this out..google earth area 51..will try to attach this image.

[ShotInTheDark]

what i dont understand is why dont the russians and chinese dont share their intel with us.i would think there would be no way to hide anything.we really could use a third party satellite.

I would think our Govt has been using State of The Art Holographic Projections over the most sensitive areas. S-4 would be one of the top most sensitive areas there is. I have always thought its protected by Holographic Generators. Also our Govt has a pretty good idea of when our enemies satellites are flying overhead. I would think that Holographic generators have been the way to go and they are still using them today.

[astr0144]

Hi Dan,

Still have thoughts on your thread..

Just wondered if you thought that there may be some similarity in the link shown below in terms of UFOs coming and going from a mountain side ?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg42034;topicseen#new

[ShotInTheDark]

Hi Dan,

Still have thoughts on your thread..

Just wondered if you thought that there may be some similarity in the link shown below in terms of UFOs coming and going from a mountain side ?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg42034;topicseen#new

First off I'm so grateful that the forum is back up and running I was worried. Hello astro0144 that first UFO under Nightvision is a classic shaped Tall White Craft. Washington State is an area full of UFOs always been goes back to the day the phrase Flying Saucer was coined by Kenneth Arnold and his sightings around Mt Adams and Mt Rainier.

At 6:40 of the video I'm amazed that is a classic Tall White craft classic the line is a Laser pointer aiming at the craft a number of people you can hear are watching this craft.


Then at 7:38 The side of the mountain lights up amazing, James says its a doorway to the inner earth.


Here are 2 screen shots of the craft without Nightvision The first is in my opinion looks exactly like a Tall White Craft


Now the 2nd screen shot is zoomed in a bit and looks a little distorted which is normal.


I think its very possible that The Talls love to occupy Mountains its already a natural structure they would just hollow out the areas they need and go as deep in the ground as they want. This to me is absolutely amazing astro0144 thank you so much.

Imagine whats in the Grand Canyon areas ? John Lear had posted some material i think at the beginning of this thread about the caved and bases that are at The Grand Canyons. I love talking about The Tall Whites I have had many dreams about them all though Im not so sure they were all dreams because of the reality of the situation.

In my opinion there no way James Gilliand is hoaxing this event. There were many others there at the time filming the same craft. I didn't see any type of navigational flashing lights which tells me these were solid UFOs.  Also most of my hippie friends dont lie they are all about Love and good times.      

[astr0144]

Hi Dan,

I appreciate your feedback and comments....

Very interesting what you have said and what you think..along with the photos that you have posted...

I agree that the video footage  does appear for real and the photos you have shown seem similar to the craft images that you initially shown in the Area51 story...

IF what you say proved to be correct...There are a few things to consider when comparing to the Area 51 Tall Whites...

I was led to believe that they like warm climates....would the higher mountains in Washington state compare ? or maybe they move there in Summer in warmer times of the year...

I may have something else to add later from a UFO TV program that I watched recently that showed an image that reminded me of the tall white Alien that someone had claimed to have witnessed, if I can find the details...

[Primus58]

Dan, so good to see you posting again! After some previous encounters with people, Charles Hall probably wouldn't want any further contact; however, I think it would be awesome if we could get him to corroborate some of these pictures, and to hear more of the story from him. When I listened to him speak, Hall never came across as a B.S. artist, in fact he seemed humble and very 'matter-of-fact.'

It would be cool if he were on this forum, or at least visited! That or a disaster if the PTB decided to intervene.

Thanks for the great post, all the best to you!

Woody

[Pimander]

In my opinion there no way James Gilliand is hoaxing this event. There were many others there at the time filming the same craft. I didn't see any type of navigational flashing lights which tells me these were solid UFOs.  Also most of my hippie friends dont lie they are all about Love and good times.      

Whether Gilliand is hoaxing or not, the number of people who film a light have no bearing whatsoever on what the source of the light is.  There are so many things in the sky that do not have standard navigation lights as I'm sure you know.

Yes, they are UFOs.  They are Unidentified Flying Objects.  Nothing more or less at this point.

When I see people keen to claim aliens when there is no evidence that it is, I normally make a quiet not to myself.

1.  Who is making the claim.

2.  What did they do at Kirtland AFB to cover up research when someone saw stuff?  (Fantasy alien base at Dulce, Cattle mutilations falsely blamed on aliens, Paul Bennowitz and AFOSI disinfo.)

Another guy out in the wilderness getting the Bennowitz treatment?  Quite possibly.  Not saying it definitely is but could very easily be.



If I was a counter intelligence disinformation specialist trying to cover covert operations and somebody spotted something out there, what would I do?  Are you easy meat for these guys, or am I the crazy big bad wolf.

AND DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF BEING SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT WANT PROOF OF ALIEN PRESENCE.  I ALSO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE ARE NON-CONVENTIONAL CRAFT ARE KNOCKING AROUND AS I AM A CLOSE UP WITNESS.