MK-ULTRA & COINTELPRO - Sinister Mind Control and New Age Spirituality

[Littleenki]

Precisely Pimander,,foil hats are a waste of time....

Through some reading on ELF, it seems the main concern aside from HAARP and other conspiracy based sources is the transmission lines found in every single town and city throughout the world.

It is said that the 60HZ fields created by these lines has a harmonic within the same wavelength of human mind frequencies.

Therefore it would stand to reason that those living beneath and around multiple or numerous high tension lines transmitting 50 or 60 hz frequencies would be the most at risk.

Ive known for a while that the product known as Orgonite is said to decrease these ELF frequencies and other anolmalous ELF source to a minimum. and even if made and placed properly to remove them altogether aside from the naturally occuring ELF from the Earth.

Also, ELF is aside to be a source of carcinogenous reaction by human tissue, especially the brain tissue and is pointed to as a cause for childhood and adult leukemias.

So, who crares if HAARP controls the weather or not..many will just get cancer and die anyways if it continues to be used.

As far as conspiracies go, this one could be quite a doozie and worthy of some further study.

[The Matrix Traveller]

No matter what we want to believe, ultimately the ONLY One in Control is LIFE.

If you were in Control, the Story of yourself and the Earth would NOT be as it is.

Neither would you die, or be at the mercy of others.

Unless you desire to Die, become ill, or pretend to be controlled by others, which includes alien entities.   

There are reasons to why you experience this Program (World) in the way you do, and it is beyond most peoples Understanding.

What the world is about does NOT involve anything of those things of human understanding or belief !

The human species is generally "Paranoid" and far tooooooo "Superstitious".

Quite understandable...

Common sense tells us... The full understanding of a "Book", can only be known when one has read the entire contents of the "Book" !

The "Book" I refer to is your individual lifetime experience, regarding the human species and the Earth.

Until the Whole "Book" has been experienced, what we want to believe about anything at all, is incomplete, and misunderstood.

We all find this out at the appropriate time.. When the entire Contents of the Book has been read. 

What we expect to happen won't happen, and what we don't expect to happen, shall happen.

At present people can only perceive or dream about, what all is really about through the human condition.   

[Captain Dave]

I have to wonder whether there is a way to remote influence Individuals in the past...  Maybe write a bible or other piece.

Think of it.  A particularly "talented" medium is influenced to write something that turns out to define life for many...  And all because someOne in the future influenced Them to write it.

I wonder how many times the past or future has been influenced by an individual or groups psychic message. With so much mind pollution, it's a wonder why things aren't more of a mess. What we have now seems to me more like organized chaos.

Potential offenders:
Religions, Illuminatti, Masons, Skull and Bones, NWO, Governmental systems, Unknown Individuals & groups, Immortal Ancients, God's, Angels & Demons, Aliens... Etc Etc Etc

[sky otter]

In terms of psychic self defence, don't ignore the esoteric lore on the topic, Sky.  there is modern science but it can also learn from the adepts from the past IMO.

i was heading in this direction ..and it's really more than lore if you see what works and what is just a wishfull tale


With so much mind pollution, it's a wonder why things aren't more of a mess. What we have now seems to me more like organized chaos.

have you ever thought that this build-up of vibrations was for a reason?
perhaps to strengthen your natural defenses.. or changed them
that may not have been the original thought behind it/them
but as stuff is thrown at you  - you adjust - you build a muscle

my point being to adjust in a conscious manner so that you use the vibration
uses which could take on many many forms ..ones that would be beneficial to you


certain rocks and certain formations of rock and plants
can cancel some of it but certain postioning of certain rocks and plants
can rearrange these vibrations in ways that make them beneficial
or just have them go around their area

with a little study of  the lore and a hubby with a backhoe  things
such as trees and very large rocks can be arranged to suit the exporitor
and some truly amazing results are possible with a bit of trail and error
in exact positioning   ..plus massive note taking..sigh

and the only real vocalization about it is what a landscaping crazy person lives over there
hahahahahahahah

and P..check out the pgh research areas for a move..you may be verrry surprized with what some of them are doing in oakland..well that's if it's on line


oh yeah personal protection can also be easily achieved with a bit of silver and certain rocks
which i am sure Z could clue you in on

[Captain Dave]

So when certain groups or individuals were scared to have their picture taken, they may indeed have had good reason?

I've been to different protests when younger and noticed government photographers set up in various area's steadily snapping pictures. These days of course, they can take pictures of you through your roof while making the morning toast.

Though I think a photograph could be used as a focal point, remote viewing would allow them to find any potential target regardless.

There is a way to disappear off their radar completely though. Logically there is always a way.

[Littleenki]

Absolutely fabulous reply sky!

[sky otter]

 

LE
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[Littleenki]

LE
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hehehheh!
Only enough to learn from you as much as I have so far..your a steady flame in a windy world.

No stalking, just truth!

Cheers!

[zorgon]

I wonder how many times the past or future has been influenced by an individual or groups psychic message. With so much mind pollution, it's a wonder why things aren't more of a mess.

Very simple really...

In all of history, it has always been a FEW that got anything done. When America broke free form Britain, it was less than 20% of the population of the US that fought for freedom and the whole thing was planned and executed by a mere handful of men

Look at Hitler... (and any of the other dictators in History) Why is it that ONE mind can influence so many?  Simple... You give those minds, most of whom are simple, a focus point.  While they are focused on that, you direct that focused energy to achieve your goal.

Fortunately for the human race when such power is used to generate evil, it is self defeating. Good creates, Evil by its nature destroys... so in the end evil destroys itself.  That is the ONLY edge that the good has.

Organized chaos is a tool used by those seeking to use the collective energy for a purpose, no matter what that purpose is. As long as people are in constant chaos, they cannot focus on what matters.

I found out by being King in the Medieval world how you can use this. People, like in a cult, will follow a leader, be it for good or evil, if they are given a focus. People NEED a leader... in the absence of a benevolent leader they will follow the next best thing.  Hitler gave the people jobs, autobahn and the people's car... a cheap affordable transport  AND he gave them someone to blame.

Once you have the people minds focused on what YOU want them to think about, you can channel that energy for your program

So Chaos is good   Gives them 'busy work'  And where do we get to put the blame? Well the PTB gave us those illusive "Illuminati" to blame for everything, never mind the fact that it was Rosicrucians/Masons who gave America its freedom in the first place....

But when Woodrow signed that paper creating the Fed and the IRS, both private institutions, THEy were able to redirect our anger at those "Illuminati" who are all Satan worshipers

Wake up people...  you have all been had and are all under mind control

[Captain Dave]

Very simple really...

In all of history, it has always been a FEW that got anything done. When America broke free form Britain, it was less than 20% of the population of the US that fought for freedom and the whole thing was planned and executed by a mere handful of men

Look at Hitler... (and any of the other dictators in History) Why is it that ONE mind can influence so many?  Simple... You give those minds, most of whom are simple, a focus point.  While they are focused on that, you direct that focused energy to achieve your goal.

Fortunately for the human race when such power is used to generate evil, it is self defeating. Good creates, Evil by its nature destroys... so in the end evil destroys itself.  That is the ONLY edge that the good has.

Organized chaos is a tool used by those seeking to use the collective energy for a purpose, no matter what that purpose is. As long as people are in constant chaos, they cannot focus on what matters.

I found out by being King in the Medieval world how you can use this. People, like in a cult, will follow a leader, be it for good or evil, if they are given a focus. People NEED a leader... in the absence of a benevolent leader they will follow the next best thing.  Hitler gave the people jobs, autobahn and the people's car... a cheap affordable transport  AND he gave them someone to blame.

Once you have the people minds focused on what YOU want them to think about, you can channel that energy for your program

So Chaos is good   Gives them 'busy work'  And where do we get to put the blame? Well the PTB gave us those illusive "Illuminati" to blame for everything, never mind the fact that it was Rosicrucians/Masons who gave America its freedom in the first place....

But when Woodrow signed that paper creating the Fed and the IRS, both private institutions, THEy were able to redirect our anger at those "Illuminati" who are all Satan worshipers

Wake up people...  you have all been had and are all under mind control

I Agree in so many ways.



My question - Is there a way to stop the aggressions of all the various groups, fix these misunderstandings and create something everyone can agree to?

Using force to effect change causes so many problems; lack of understanding so many more.

Understandably those individuals in power don't wish to lose their power. I believe the only way to win is to assure that those in power don't lose what they have, while at the same time creating a system that allows everyone else to have all they need.



Mind control without the subjects permission and a lack of understanding by the one controlling just creates more of a mess. The World today seems too much like children fighting on a playground with no adult supervision.

[petrus4]

Once you have the people minds focused on what YOU want them to think about, you can channel that energy for your program

There's a fair degree of irony here, in your regal attitude on the one hand, and your complaining about people you identify with, being viewed as the enemy of the rest of humanity, on the other.

So Chaos is good   Gives them 'busy work'

Yes, quite right.  Never mind the peasantry.  Let them eat cake. 

I sometimes have to wonder about the degree to which you are being humorous, when you make such statements.  I know that there is an element of that, from the point of view that when you have spoken more seriously, you have implied that you are aware of the degree of responsibility that monarchy (if it is to be engaged in with integrity, at least) involves.

I saw the degree of fear, pain, and misery that the chaos of 9/11 and the London train bombing caused, Zorgon.  I know you're joking, for the most part; but it is exactly the type of attitude that you are quoting here, held on the part of self-appointed "elites," which caused that pain.  The idea that the "little people," are disposable, and nobody needs to care about how many of them die, because if you're one of said elite, their lives supposedly only exist for your own use anyway.

And where do we get to put the blame? Well the PTB gave us those illusive "Illuminati" to blame for everything, never mind the fact that it was Rosicrucians/Masons who gave America its freedom in the first place....

As far as I am concerned, the cabal do not get to have it both ways.  If they want to view themselves as the custodians of the rest of the species, then that would be perfectly fine, if they remained more consistently mindful of the fact that, rightfully, the crook is to be wielded at least as often (if not marginally moreso) than the flail.  If they do not, then they will eventually be disposed of, and the people can expect divine assistance in performing said disposal.

For the most part, the hierarchy we have right now is not remotely benevolent, Zorgon.  I realised walking home tonight that Undo genuinely was right about me, and that as a result, I have been genuinely unfair to you at times; because I've viewed you as being similar to a part of myself that I don't want to look at or accept, and have treated you accordingly.  I do apologise for that.

My time as co-administrator of a Christian IRC channel during the mid 90s, leader initially of a 120 person guild within World of Warcraft in 2006, and then of a 300+ person offline social anxiety support group in Melbourne, as well as my later reading of some of the Hindu scriptures, taught me that while monarchy genuinely can be part of the divine order, it only is, if it is being administered in a manner that is consistent with said divine order.

if we can do things which others cannot, or will not, that is not to be used as a source of egotism.  A certain amount of glory is permissible, yes; as has been said, a worker is worth his hire.  There is no greater perversion of the role, however, than if that power is turned against the very people who it is supposed to nurture.  The screams of those who died during 9/11 were heard, I assure you; as was the agony experienced by the million+ civilians who have died in Iraq, as a result of America's destruction of that country.  What the leaders of the American government and military have waiting for them after their own deaths, will be a first person experience of all of the pain they have caused.



We are all given to experience, all of the emotional effects which our actions have on others.  This is justice.  My own terror of this, more than anything else, is the reason why, with only the rare exceptions listed above, I have consistently focused all of my will on the restraint of my own nature.  It is better for me if I experience my entire lifetime alone and locked in my bedroom, and die accomplishing nothing whatsoever, than if my use of what I have been given, causes the suffering of others.

[Pimander]

In all of history, it has always been a FEW that got anything done. When America broke free form Britain, it was less than 20% of the population of the US that fought for freedom and the whole thing was planned and executed by a mere handful of men

Many of those planners were British.

Fortunately for the human race when such power is used to generate evil, it is self defeating. Good creates, Evil by its nature destroys... so in the end evil destroys itself.  That is the ONLY edge that the good has.

"Evil when left unopposed will always turn upon itself" ~ Dion Fortune (I think)

[micjer]

And speaking of mind control......

[micjer]

When one stops and thinks about it (ironic), mind control is everywhere.

It is the net that traps us.

From our youth we are taught not to question what we are told or taught.

We are told to believe what our teachers are telling us in school. We are taught not to question our history lessons.  What we are being taught in Sunday School.  What our doctors are telling us and prescribing to us to make us "well".  What our news anchors are informing us about the "truth" in the world.   

We are taught that our government leaders have our best interests at heart.  We are taught that the only energy sources are expensive and many are non renewable and running out.   The list goes on and on.


Anyways for the few that step back and think outside the matrix, suddenly there is this New Age Spirituality there to catch people and have them feeling good about themselves and persuade them into believing that Aliens are going to save them.  Not going to happen.


I have to say that I do like the Ra material and Bashar for the same reasons as was posted earlier in this thread. 

[Littleenki]

As for Britain, the US is Britain 2.0...always has been.

Thanks to them for the corporate quagmire they brought to these shores. Im sure if the Indians knew what they were in for, there wouldve been a lot more resistance from the start.

All roads lead to Rome of course, the Queen of England is a patsy for the Vatican, the ultimate evil!