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The Center of the Universe

Started by Shasta56, July 19, 2012, 04:18:29 AM

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Shasta56

What is the center of the universe?  It isn't me.  I don't know that it's anyone here.  I don't think that it's any one person's work, no matter how important that work is or was.  So what is the center of the universe?

Respectfully,

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

kdog

I would assume,and you know what assume means,that there is nothing since the universe is expanding since the big bang,or so they say.

Just my thoughts on it.

Amaterasu

I am the center of My universe.  You are the center of Yours.  [smile]

Awareness "creates" the universe and each awareness is the center of Its universe.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

kdog

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 19, 2012, 04:28:19 AM
I am the center of My universe.  You are the center of Yours.  [smile]

Awareness "creates" the universe and each awareness is the center of Its universe.

Each has his/hers own universe in which they live in,am I correct?
Do I see and experience the same one as you?
Or do we see each one differently,experience it in our own way.

Shasta56

It's a bit of a rhetorical question, but I thought it might generate some interesting discussion.

Respectfully,

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

zorgon

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 19, 2012, 04:18:29 AM
So what is the center of the universe?

Your pineal gland... you create your own universe.

Sometimes many universes coexist in harmony, sometimes they collide

When the Andromeda Galaxy collides with ours, our solar system will simply pass through

So too when universes collide or touch

If people would realize this fact, they would understand that politics, religions and other conflicts are meaningless




Amaterasu

Quote from: kdog on July 19, 2012, 04:33:55 AM
Each has his/hers own universe in which they live in,am I correct?
Do I see and experience the same one as you?
Or do we see each one differently,experience it in our own way.

There is a large overlap, but essentially, yes, We each have Our own universe - or program.  With differing subroutines.

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 19, 2012, 04:41:32 AM
It's a bit of a rhetorical question, but I thought it might generate some interesting discussion.

Respectfully,

Shasta

No doubt, Shasta!  Good thread idea!

Quote from: zorgon on July 19, 2012, 04:50:33 AM
Your pineal gland... you create your own universe.

Sometimes many universes coexist in harmony, sometimes they collide

When the Andromeda Galaxy collides with ours, our solar system will simply pass through

So too when universes collide or touch

If people would realize this fact, they would understand that politics, religions and other conflicts are meaningless

I'd say You have it pretty much spot on!
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

rdunk

#7
The universe is something I and most reasonably "informed people" actually don't really know "peanuts" about, from a physical standpoint. However, it is generally accepted that a basically physical attribute of the universe is..........it is infinite!

And, we for sure don't actually have a grasp of any real understanding for what infinite really means either. However, I believe it is safe to say that if something is infinite, then there is no such characteristic as "a center of it".

Even if there were a big bang that started somewhere (and my Christian belief does not accept that as fact), the "big bang" would have only formed the hard physical attributes of the universe such as the planets, stars and galaxies, within the infinite void that already existed.

Because the Earth is our starting point for all spacial observations, then the Earth is at the center of our "known universe". However our "knowing" is severely limited by our scientific knowledge and capability to "observe" any farther out. Thus, here on this Earth, we could say we are at the center of a 27 billion light-year sphere  of the known universe, which is about as far out as we can "see" (13.5 billion light years in every direction) with current state of the art instruments !!!  8)

Littleenki

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 19, 2012, 04:18:29 AM
What is the center of the universe?  It isn't me.  I don't know that it's anyone here.  I don't think that it's any one person's work, no matter how important that work is or was.  So what is the center of the universe?

Respectfully,

Shasta

Ive got to agree with Zorgon, as the pineal gland does create our reality, and my pineal gland will create my reality, while yours will do the same for you, Shasta!

These realities arent the center of the universe though, the WHOLE of them is

For me, our collective conscious which is created by all of our pineal glands, is the true center, and is OUR center of the universe together as one...ALL.

Cheers Shasta!
Littleenki
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

Amaterasu

Yes, Dave, I agree in that We ARE all One.  The universe is One.  There is no center but the center We each carry with Us.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

kdog

Quote from: zorgon on July 19, 2012, 04:50:33 AM
Your pineal gland... you create your own universe.

Sometimes many universes coexist in harmony, sometimes they collide

When the Andromeda Galaxy collides with ours, our solar system will simply pass through

So too when universes collide or touch

If people would realize this fact, they would understand that politics, religions and other conflicts are meaningless



If only that wisdom could be shared and understood by those in power.
But,no,it's more like mom and dad took all the kids to the fun park,let them run amok while they go sit at the bar.

burntheships

Quote from: rdunk on July 19, 2012, 05:01:35 AM

Because the Earth is our starting point for all spacial observations, then the Earth is at the center of our "known universe". However our "knowing" is severely limited by our scientific knowledge and capability to "observe" any farther out. Thus, here on this Earth, we could say we are at the center of a 27 billion light-year sphere  of the known universe, which is about as far out as we can "see" (13.5 billion light years in every direction) with current state of the art instruments !!!  8)

;D Thank you Rdunk, this makes everything seem like its going
to be alright!  ;)
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

zorgon

Quote from: rdunk on July 19, 2012, 05:01:35 AM
The universe is something we actually don't really know "peanuts" about, from a physical standpoint. However, it is generally accepted that a basically physical attribute of the universe is..........it is infinite!

you should change that 'we'  to 'I'... you cannot know what someone else may or may not know. You can only speak for yourself.

It was 'generally accepted' that the earth was flat... they were wrong

It was 'generally accepted' that the earth was the center of the solar system... they were wrong. Galileo was almost burned at the stake over that one. At least the RCC finally apologized to him, 600 years later

QuoteAnd, we for sure don't actually have a grasp of any real understanding for what infinite really means either. However, I believe it is safe to say that if something is infinite, then there is no such characteristic as "a center of it".

Let me ask you this... if god is all powerfull and omnipotent, can he create a rock heavier than he can lift?  Don't rush into it... sit back and think about it... my Croatian Friend took two years before he gave up trying.

THAT is your answer to Infinity

QuoteBecause the Earth is our starting point for all spacial observations, then the Earth is at the center of our "known universe". However our "knowing" is severely limited by our scientific knowledge and capability to "observe" any farther out. Thus, here on this Earth, we could say we are at the center of a 27 billion light-year sphere  of the known universe, which is about as far out as we can "see" (13.5 billion light years in every direction) with current state of the art instruments !!!  8)

Journey to the Edge of the Universe



Humans are how the Cosmos knows it exists

Amaterasu

z, I would say sentience.  I would not be so homocentric.  [smile]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

COSMO

OK...considering wave particle duality and the quantum uncertainty principal, I believe the biocentrism is a viable way view the nature of the universe and our relationship to it.



The concept of an observer created reality is what the ancient Hindu's wrote of also.  By the conscious observation of the raw stuff of creation, we resolve it into the universe we observe.  Probability wave collapsed.  Observer created reality.  We are active participants in the act of creation.  The problem is it takes place so quickly that by the time we can go through the physical process of viewing, translating and evaluating, that brief instant of creation has passed.  Everything we can "think" of with the reactive mind is ALWAYS a moment in the past, an instant removed from the act of creation.  All thought is in the past.  It takes an enlightened state to realize that instant, to experience the raw material of creation that is infinity and eternity in an instant, before it becomes a thought, a memory and is recorded as an event in our brain. The ancients wrote about it and told of how to achieve it.
Or maybe not...... :) :) :)
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?