The Center of the Universe

[Littleenki]

Quite an interesting link, there, Dave.  Definitely food for thought.  Thanks.  [smile]

Thanks, Amy, Bill has been sharing with many for a while now, and his deciphering of the bible and the ancient teachings are very astute and wise.

He does videos too, so when you get YT back, Ill send some links from his channel...hidden meanings.

We can learn some of the wonderous things about our past, and when we find the real meanings we can understand why mankind has been so "wool pulled over the eyes" for so long, we can see just how evil our religions really are..

Not to sound like a satanist or bad guy, but didnt someone say that the churches are the devil and Satan was a symbol of the true god once?

It would seem to me that even though I dont believe in Satan, or A bearded dude on a cloud...God..the system we know of as religion has become quite ass backwards...Falwell, Bakker, Virgins when dead, Vatican protecting pedophiles because the Greeks decided that it was ok to sodomize young boys in the interest of celebacy with priest's wives.Argh!!!

Disgusting and perverted if you ask me!

Cheers!

[Shasta56]

Yeah, Zorgon, I was eighteen and proving a point to some skeptics.  It scared the crap out of the guy that I lifted.  He was a jerk.  He deserved to have crap scared out of him.

Shasta

[Amaterasu]

Yes, something has become very twisted.  Any order that approves raping young boys over normal sex with consenting women...  Hmmmm.  Yeah.

Any sect that suggests Humans are sheep...

[sigh]  Many now are starting to think for Themselves, though...  Hopefully a good sign.

[Littleenki]

Yes, something has become very twisted.  Any order that approves raping young boys over normal sex with consenting women...  Hmmmm.  Yeah.

Any sect that suggests Humans are sheep...

[sigh]  Many now are starting to think for Themselves, though...  Hopefully a good sign.

Hopefully indeed!
Sheeple?
Time for a heaping plate of haggus!:D
Le

[Amaterasu]

Think I'l be passin' on the haggis, I will.  But I get Yer point, I do.  [smile]

[Littleenki]

Ill let the sheep know, Amy, theyll be elated!:-):-)
Le

[rdunk]

Well for what it is worth, I have been a Christian for many years. And over that time, I have learned much, and I have seen much. I have been in Methodist churches, I have been in Baptist churches, and I have been in non-denominational churches. And never have I witnessed most of the negative things being mentioned here "about religion". 

Yes satan is very real, and no, IMO, things are not "twisted". The "twist" being mentioned is the absolute evidence of satanic involvement in the lives of people. Like it or not, this is a spiritual and demented world we live in.

When people become Christians, they are made perfect in Christ, but, they still live here, in this world, in the "fleshly" sinful nature of man. The "fight" with satan is magnified for a Christian, because all others are his anyway.

So, should be no surprise that we see bad things happening with good people. Yes, bad things are bad, and people should know better, but the spiritual battle continues. The perversion we have seen in the news relative to some supposedly Christians is disgusting to all of us, absolutely disgusting. God will deal with that too!

Becoming a Christian is the first step. Growing in God's Word, and developing a continuing relationship with God is a life-long endeavor. As a Christian learns and grows in God's Word, he is more able to fight the battle, and contend with "the fiery darts" of satan.

Being a Christian is all about trusting God, loving God, and loving your "neighbor" (meaning all others) as you love yourself. 

This is provided as sincere and heartfelt information, of my own personal thoughts and experience with what is being termed "religion".

I do respect each of your posts, discussing your likewise sincere beliefs and belief systems!!

[Pimander]

When people become Christians, they are made perfect in Christ, but, they still live here, in this world, in the "fleshly" sinful nature of man. The "fight" with satan is magnified for a Christian, because all others are his anyway.

Implying that to be "perfect" one must be a Christian and all none Christians belong to Satan!

Absolute nonsense.  This kind of talk is fear induced, prejudiced and sickening dogma. This is precisely what I would call religion at its worst.

Sorry, you have a right to believe whatever you will but I think what you believe is dangerous and has harmed humanity for centuries and will continue to do so.

Becoming a Christian is the first step.

If becoming a Chistian involves believing the above then I would not recommend anyone does so.

Being a Christian is all about trusting God, loving God, and loving your "neighbor" (meaning all others) as you love yourself.

Wrong!  Being a good PERSON is about loving your neighbour.  Trusting and loving God are a matter of personal choice! 


Dangerous nonsense!

[Amaterasu]

I'm with You, Pim.  I think the dogma of the modern Christianity as most practice it is devised to divide and conquer.  Devised to lower Self-esteem.  Devised to make sheep out of Humans.   Devised to encourage non-thinking, obedient behavior.  Devised to promote the idea We are "wicked."

In fact, 99% of Us are NOT wicked.  We do the best We can, and at least do no major harm to Others unless We are manipulated into war - which is Ours to choose, I admit, but They are very good at guilting Us and otherwise using Their propaganda to push the sheep in the fold in the direction They want.

[A51Watcher]

The Karminsky Experience - Exploration










Reuben Halsey - The Meaning Of Life

[burntheships]

The center of the Universe is just a matter of viewpoint.

From the Sun's viewpoint, everything is revolving around it.

From the our viewpoint on the Earth, some might say that everything is
revolving around us.

From each person viewpoint they may think the world revolves around
themself.

Truth is that the Cosmos doesn't care what viewpoint we take; it just goes on revolving like it always has.

So Eienstein was right - in that sense that there does exist a
law of relativity.

What was the center of the universe today may not be in 100 years.

Have we exhusted the exploration of the entire Universe?

As mans knoweldge increases so does his understanding of
The Universe. What was once is now no more.

Ptolemy's simple geocentric model of the Solar System. Everything orbits the Earth; the Sun can be found in the fourth ring. 


Copernicus's heliocentric model of the Solar System. The Earth is found in the third ring, with the Moon orbiting it. Note that Jupiter is surrounded by the four moons known at the time—the so-called "Galilean moons."



A perfect example of this:

The Galileo affair

a sequence of events, beginning around 1610, during which Galileo Galilei came into conflict with the Aristotelian scientific view of the universe (supported by the Catholic Church), over his support of Copernican astronomy.[1]

In 1610, Galileo published his Sidereus Nuncius (Starry Messenger), describing the surprising observations that he had made with the new telescope, namely the phases of Venus and the Galilean moons of Jupiter. He went on to propose a theory of tides in 1616, and of comets in 1619. He argued that the tides were evidence for the motion of the Earth, and promoted the heliocentric theory of Copernicus (published in De revolutionibus orbium coelestium in 1543).These ideas created conflicts with other scientists and Catholic scholars. Galileo's part in the controversies over theology, astronomy, and philosophy culminated in his trial and sentencing by the Roman Inquisition in 1633 on a grave suspicion of heresy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Then, the apology.

In 2000, Pope John Paul II issued a formal apology for all the mistakes committed by some Catholics in the last 2,000 years of the Catholic Church's history, including the trial of Galileo among others
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Then again, what do we really know now, and what will we know tomorrow?

astronomers look at distant
galaxies to determine how fast they're moving, it looks like they're all
moving away from us. Does that mean we're at the center of the universe?
Well, no. It turns out that every point in the universe sees itself as the center! http://www.exploratorium.edu/hubble/tools/center.html

But, that does not make it so!

How do your know your ideas and perceptions are right
....as with the past so the future.



A little off the topic, yet its really the center of the center.

Do we attempt to be experts at the law, and if so is the law
of love the greatest law?




On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"

26 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"

27 He answered, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'[a]; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

28 "You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"

30 In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'

36 "Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"

37 The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."

Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=NIV

So, what may be the center of your universe one moment, may not be
in another. Life is not static, it is dynamic.

Keep exploring! 

[A51Watcher]

That sort of sums up in a way in words what I was trying to say with those 2 songs.

Thank you and great post!   

[burntheships]

@A51,

And thank you for the videos!
Yes, it seems we are on the same thought plane.

 

[rdunk]

bts, thank you so much! The story about the "Good Samaritan" is the absolute definition of what is meant by "neighbor" in reference to "love". This story is told so simply and clearly, there is just no way to misunderstand its message, IMO.

[burntheships]

The story about the "Good Samaritan" is the absolute definition of what is meant by "neighbor" in reference to "love".

Reaching out to help others leaves us ( I/me) far from the center
of the universe! Yes, indeed. Thanks R!

And on a humorous note, this gives new meaning and food for thought
to the idea of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy!