The Center of the Universe

[zorgon]

Well for what it is worth, I have been a Christian for many years. And over that time, I have learned much, and I have seen much. I have been in Methodist churches, I have been in Baptist churches, and I have been in non-denominational churches. And never have I witnessed most of the negative things being mentioned here "about religion".

Why would you expect to find negative talk in a Church? I find it mind boggling that you even make that comment.

And why are there several hundred denominations of Christianity? Either the Word is the Word and you should all believe the same, or there is a problem. I too have listened to Methodists, Baptists, Puritans, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Evangelists, Lutherans, Protestants, Anglicans, Catholics and several non-denominational churches... and I found that each one INTERPRETS the Word of God differently...  yet they all call themselves Christians...

How do you explain that? There was only ONE Christ... so why are there all these denominations that feel the need to make their own interpretations to suit their needs? Puritans believe sing and dancing is a work of Satan  while Evangelists use song and dance to celebrate the Lord... totally OPPOSITE beliefs yet both claim to be devote Christians....

Yes satan is very real, and no, IMO, things are not "twisted". The "twist" being mentioned is the absolute evidence of satanic involvement in the lives of people. Like it or not, this is a spiritual and demented world we live in.

Only to you in YOUR opinion...   and the fact that you and other Christians try to claim that everyone that disagrees with you is owned by Satan?  Wow... not really much I can say to that LOL. Did you know that the RC Church contracted Dante to create a view of Hell that would scare the crap out of people? Dante had one sick demented mind... the Church saw his work as a perfect tool to control their flock. Before Dante's work appeared there was no real concept of what Hell looked like.  I guess they got there monies worth

When people become Christians, they are made perfect in Christ, but, they still live here, in this world, in the "fleshly" sinful nature of man. The "fight" with satan is magnified for a Christian, because all others are his anyway.

Well I have met a lot of Christians that are far from perfect. I once asked a Mafia Don how he can murder someone one day and then go to Church the next day as if nothing happened (I kinda had a lot of people turn white when I asked that but hey I did open it with "Pardon me ... no disrespect intended )

His answer was " That is business, God understands"

And how many Christians are committing sin weekly and think that going to church on Sunday and saying a few hail Mary's will fix it? Then go out and do it again next week?

Bush is a Christian... and so are many of the PTB... are they upholding Christian standards?

The perversion we have seen in the news relative to some supposedly Christians is disgusting to all of us, absolutely disgusting. God will deal with that too!

When? those 'perversion" have been going on for hundreds of years. Why can't he just wave his hand and say "Enough is Enough" and put all those child molesting priests into a hole?

Becoming a Christian is the first step. Growing in God's Word, and developing a continuing relationship with God is a life-long endeavor. As a Christian learns and grows in God's Word, he is more able to fight the battle, and contend with "the fiery darts" of satan.

You do realize that Satan only picks on Christians, right?  The rest of us don't even know he exists

This is provided as sincere and heartfelt information, of my own personal thoughts and experience with what is being termed "religion".
I do respect each of your posts, discussing your likewise sincere beliefs and belief systems!!

Cool that is as it should be... after all America is about FREEDOM to believe as you wish. I respect anyone's belief... so long as they are not working hard to try to convert me.

[The Matrix Traveller]

And why are there several hundred denominations of Christianity?
Either the Word is the Word and you should all believe the same, or there is a problem.
I too have listened to Methodists, Baptists, Puritans, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses
Evangelists, Lutherans, Protestants, Anglicans, Catholics and several non-denominational churches...
and I found that each one INTERPRETS the Word of God differently... yet they all call themselves
Christians...

You are 100% Correct Z.

This is the case because non of the people in these groups are Christians at all.

They follow the "Doctrine" of their Roman leaders, of the Roman church, the Root
of the other Denominations and NOT the teachings of the "Carpenter"
they call Jesus today.

In the 1st Attachment below, is a Drawing of "The MAN Child", which is shown
in many different forms, in "Religious Buildings" of most religions, "Palaces",
"Government Buildings", "Public Buildings", all places over the Earth, in the form
of Historical record.

See 1st Attachment Drawing below.

Here are some Photos displaying different forms representing the 1st Attachment Drawing below.












And displayed on the Altar Cloth.





And in an Icon of St. Demetrious in the form of the "Double Square" Star.

This Icon also shows some of the Language used in the Soul or "Processing Construct"
the ancients referred to as the "Soul"..




Note; In my Drawings you can see the "Double Square".

The BLUE Square was/is referred to as E'NOCH
and the RED Square was/is referred to as ELIJAH.

It must be realized the Ancient writings on this subject is in the form of "Parables"
written in Poetic Form.

Evidence of this is found in the 1st chapter of "The Book of E'NOCH" in verse 3.  Quote;

3.   Concerning the Elect I said, and took up my Parable concerning them.

But in what I am showing in my Forums is in No way Religious but in the past
others (Religions) have used some of this knowledge, to deceive others, and Hide the Truth.

One can find Thousands of the Images from all over the earth on the net.   

"The MAN Child" is easily seen in the Structure of your Soul.

Here is a Drawing of the Soul in Side View.
This Drawing is showing One of the Intermediate forms of the SOUL during "The Metamorphosis of The SOUL".
Here it is shown in it's "Hexagonal" Format.
The Hexagonal Format is shown on the Underside of The Soul.





but now for those who have gone through the change is shown as a Drawing in the 1st Attachment below.

And the 2nd Attachment shows "The MAN Child" after the Return of "The Son of MAN" in the Center.

[Shasta56]

Wasn't there a belief at one time the earth was the center of the universe?  Wasn't it heresy to state otherwise?  And some of the most intolerant people I have met have been conservative Christians.  Conservative Christians being how they have described themselves. 

Shasta

[NewTheories]

I haven't seen Him offer anything so...religiously oriented.  Can You point Me to where that is?  Or perhaps He is defining "Christ" differently?

Well all these Religions are Gnostic Teachings, the site Gnostic Teachings go into it all in detail and what Christ is in the Gnostic Sense http://gnosticteachings.org/

[Amaterasu]

Well I have met a lot of Christians that are far from perfect. I once asked a Mafia Don how he can murder someone one day and then go to Church the next day as if nothing happened (I kinda had a lot of people turn white when I asked that but hey I did open it with "Pardon me ... no disrespect intended )

His answer was " That is business, God understands"

When I read that I thought about how it would look if there was no money, no "business" to attend to.  Where that Don didn't have to worry about what Others are doing and could do what He wanted to do - spend time with family, go to "vacation spots," design a building, etc., etc., etc.

Sorry.  Abundance Paradigming again.  [grin]

[Amaterasu]

Well all these Religions are Gnostic Teachings, the site Gnostic Teachings go into it all in detail and what Christ is in the Gnostic Sense http://gnosticteachings.org/

Agreed that the religions He brings up are of gnostic inclination, but what He seems to be showing is the true meaning of the images They used, explaining that how the symbols were explained to the general Populace was distorted, or misunderstood.

[robomont]

hello

[Littleenki]

Well all these Religions are Gnostic Teachings, the site Gnostic Teachings go into it all in detail and what Christ is in the Gnostic Sense http://gnosticteachings.org/

The Christ Consciousness vs Christ ......

http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/religions/christconscious.htm

                               SRI SWAMI KRISHNANANDA

'Empty thyself and I shall fill thee.' This is a wondrous single sentence message of Jesus the Christ. The Spirit is not a quantity and it is opposed to all quantitative measurements and conceptions. 'Blessed are the poor in spirit,' is another suggestive statement of the Christ. We cannot understand what is meant to be poor. For us, to be poor is not to have money, grains and gold, not to have a field, a house and friends, and not to be recognised in society. That would be poverty, economically. We cannot think of poverty except in an economic, material and social sense. Likewise, the idea of emptying oneself, as far as our minds can understand, is a physical displacement of content. Far from this is the idea of the Spirit, which is implied in the above single-sentence message. The Christ-Consciousness, and not the personality of Christ, is what is to be taken into account here in our understanding of this statement. There is a difference between Christ and Christ-Consciousness. This fact was repeatedly emphasised by the Christ himself in many of His declarations as recorded in the New Testament. He never regarded Himself as a person, nor did He ever indicate that a person was speaking when He spoke. He always referred to 'Him that sent me'. He was very much fond of referring to 'Him that sent me'. He said: 'I am here to proclaim the Law of Him who sent me here. It is not my law that I am demonstrating or proclaiming to the world.' The Spirit that spoke through Him was not a creature of time.

Interesting stuff there, Check it out folks!

Le

[robomont]

i prefer to worship myself.we are children of god .that means we are gods.if you need something to believe in ,believe in me.for a hundred dollars ,i will absolve you of all sin.why can i do this you may ask? because all sin is ignorance.now go to sleep tonight knowing you are at peace.from your god,almighty robomont

[Littleenki]

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Le