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My Inescapable Conclusion: The Freemasons are Monsters

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Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on May 03, 2015, 09:09:54 PM
Shouldn't be you the one that needs to prove what you're saying, in this case that there are trillionaires?
You're the second person I have seen on Internet forums that accepts the possibility of using bad data but doesn't talk about the possibility of being wrong in their conclusions based on the available data.
I doubt it, but, as I said above, you are the one that should prove that you are right.

Oh, I am sure there are no trillionaires.  You're right, ArMaP.  [shrug]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 08:49:03 PM
The average Person today has nothing like this

Sure they do  Why do you think credit card debt is so high in this country?  Most people except the ones that have nothing have some form of card

QuoteYes, it IS brainwashing.  From birth We are taught to want.  We are taught to define Ourselves in terms of what We have materially.  We define "success" as having lots of accounting units.  The corporate realm seeks to have Us wanting all the time, for the purpose of profit.  They advertise and market specifically to encourage this approach. 

My parents survived the war in Germany  They were literally bombed out of house and home. They taught us how to deal with nothing and stuff our pride in the garbage and do what you must. I have passed this on to my kids. The Medieval groups I associate with have long ago learned that you can make yourself a King or queen from nothing but a little effort. Like attracts like... associate with those who SHOOK OFF the 'brainwashing' 

My daughter also wants the stuff she sees on TV :P  But she has learned that patience and effort will get her those things at a fraction of the cost

QuoteThey are predisposed.  Humans have to be trained - and They do a very good job of training Us to behave such that They profit.

Humans also have a free will... they can break alcohol, tobacco and drug addictions if they WANT to. Same rule applies to STUFF

QuoteBS.  We are trained from birth, and even then, the training does not stick on a fair few of Us.

You just contradicted yourself in one line  LOL You just admitted not all of us are falling for the brainwashing

zorgon

QuoteI have not a single credit card.  Not a single bank account.  I withdrew consent from this psychopath's paradise of a money system and a top-down controlmind.

Therein lies the problem

What you are doing is blaming the TOOL and discarding it rather than using the tool wisely.

That is like a carpenter tossing away his hammer and wondering why he cannot build anything

You say you LOVE money  You say you would LOVE to have it but then you toss away the shovel that will help you get it.


Sigh....

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 09:05:06 PM
But where I make conclusions, I have gotten enough data to give likelihood of incomplete or bad data as being very low.

Perhaps you are focusing on the conclusions you WISH to draw and thus not analysing the data correctly

Lets look at it this way... You are not likely, baring a Miracle like a gold meteorite landing at your feet :P. to ever be rich. The goal should not be to be rich but to first be COMFORTABLE and be able to enjoy life

Let the rich do their thing in the Hamptons or Beverly Hills  Trust me they don't have a lot of fun :P

Focus on getting enough to be FREE

They say money cannot buy happiness   They LIED :P  Because with enough money you can travel the world and be happy, you can buy the things that make you happy  so long as you don't let it control you

They say money cannot buy you love, but money will allow you to put yourself into situations where you are likely to meet someone to love. Stuck at home without a dime gives you few options

They say money cannot buy you health.  But it can buy the best doctors and give you a better chance  My legs need surgery  It is available in Germany for 60,000 plus airfare  I cannot afford it. If I could my problem would likely be fixed.

It is POSSIBLE to use their tool and live within their system  but still be free... it truly is




ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 09:51:57 PM
Oh, I am sure there are no trillionaires.  You're right, ArMaP.  [shrug]
I was sure that you were going to answer something like that, I even wrote in my previous post but decided to delete that part before posting it.

PS: change the blinders from time to time, they may get too worn out from too much use. ;)

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 09:46:17 PM
Looking forward.

::)

QuoteSince I'm the One being crapped on because it's all My fault, I would rather You offer things for Those of Us starting with nothing.  Not useful if You have to have something to make something.

True that is why I said I will do it in sequence  and that is why I asked if you can ride a bicycle and still lived in Thor's cabin.


QuoteWell, I imagine those bills are a drop in the bucket.  Since You have been so grossly successful in thinking Yourself rich.

Well actually they are not a drop in the bucket. :P Do I consider myself Rich? Well I suppose by some standards I am, even though I don't have the money to cover the bills for June yet. I have a house (still owe the bank 108 K on that one but values are up again :D   Now that doesn't matter because I have no intent to sell so its a moot point.

At this point I will add NEVER  NEVER take a loan against the equity in your house  NEVER  Repeat after me NEVER Tempting as it may be  this is why people lose homes

So just to spell it out. My income is the small Canadian pension that I was allowed to collect early plus my teamsters pension I took early because of the legs  Those two combined come to about 700.00 a month  Mortgage is 1050.00 and all utilities come to about 800.00 a month.

So without the wife putting in her share there is little in the way of riches :P  YES it is MY choice that I live here still. I could now sell and come out a head a little but I have to live somewhere :P  So to manage the bills and keep things going it is obvious I have to practice what I preach :P and get some free money

Now I do have one Richness  I have been a scrounger and collector all my life. Yes I have even taken stuff tossed in the trash and taken time to restore it  or take it to the scrap yard.

Two weeks ago I took in 600 pounds of iron collected in the yard from trash days and some aluminum and copper wire.... Got $186.00 cash  very little effort

Many people I know that have had issues with losing jobs and can't make ends meet have found online sales was good enough to pull them out

QuoteLimited to desk jobs, I have applied to every one I have found that I even remotely qualify for - all around the effing planet.  Night desk at motels, bookkeeper, admin. assistant, and anything that deals with graphics.  As long as I don't have to stand long periods of time, and I come close on requirements, I apply.  And I would not put Myself in the "able bodied" category.  I am limited.

Ah well I did not know that you are limited mobility.  So have you tried seeking those work at home computer jobs?  Sure a lot of scams are out there but there are legitimate jobs out there. Two I know of for certain... Medical Billing... they always need people to work at home

Beta testing of Game (this is more for an experienced gamer)  One fellow we worked with at the convention center (and he was partners in a display company) made &3600.00 average a month testing video game in his spare time,  He too had limited mobility from a motor cycle acciddent.  There are many companies online seeking beta testors

These are just two example  I will seek out more for the web pages

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 10:01:07 PM
You just contradicted yourself in one line  LOL You just admitted not all of us are falling for the brainwashing

Nooooo....  I replied to You saying We are ferrets and such.  No contradiction.  Most of Us are programmed.  Some are not.  Geez.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 10:03:27 PM
Therein lies the problem

What you are doing is blaming the TOOL and discarding it rather than using the tool wisely.

That is like a carpenter tossing away his hammer and wondering why he cannot build anything

You say you LOVE money  You say you would LOVE to have it but then you toss away the shovel that will help you get it.


Sigh....

WHAT???  I only blame the tool for it's promoting unEthical behavior and psychopaths.  And just what "shovel" do You think I am "throwing away?"  The problem is NOT the tool per se, but that it is a dangerous tool with what it promotes.  Geez again.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
Perhaps you are focusing on the conclusions you WISH to draw and thus not analysing the data correctly

Yup.  You're right.  Whatever.

QuoteLets look at it this way... You are not likely, baring a Miracle like a gold meteorite landing at your feet :P. to ever be rich. The goal should not be to be rich but to first be COMFORTABLE and be able to enjoy life

Let the rich do their thing in the Hamptons or Beverly Hills  Trust me they don't have a lot of fun :P

Focus on getting enough to be FREE

They say money cannot buy happiness   They LIED :P  Because with enough money you can travel the world and be happy, you can buy the things that make you happy  so long as you don't let it control you

They say money cannot buy you love, but money will allow you to put yourself into situations where you are likely to meet someone to love. Stuck at home without a dime gives you few options

They say money cannot buy you health.  But it can buy the best doctors and give you a better chance  My legs need surgery  It is available in Germany for 60,000 plus airfare  I cannot afford it. If I could my problem would likely be fixed.

It is POSSIBLE to use their tool and live within their system  but still be free... it truly is

Again, sure, it's possible.  But that ability does NOT remove the overall danger to society from using a tool that allows Our psychopaths to run things.  And They ARE.  Chemtrails, loosed GMO's, weather manipulation, fake "news," Agenda 21, and on and on.  PLENTY of evidence They are in control here.

You seem to be mistaking My efforts to solve for psychopaths in control with some personal relationship I have with money in the present systems.  Wrong.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
::)

Ok...  I'm NOT looking forward.  Does that make You feel better?  Geez.  I really am looking forward.  Snideness is rude.

QuoteTrue that is why I said I will do it in sequence  and that is why I asked if you can ride a bicycle and still lived in Thor's cabin.

It's not Thor's cabin.  I rent a cabin and He has been covering rent/util.  And no bike, no ability to ride one.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 03, 2015, 11:14:03 PM
  And They ARE.  Chemtrails, loosed GMO's, weather manipulation, fake "news," Agenda 21, and on and on.  PLENTY of evidence They are in control here.

And at least 50% of stuff you see on the net about those topics is BS but it gets shared as "fact' anyway. Does that not make the conspiracy folkes as bad as the psychopaths?

::)

QuoteYou seem to be mistaking My efforts to solve for psychopaths in control with some personal relationship I have with money in the present systems.  Wrong.

YOU are so focused on the psychopaths you cannot separate your money woes and my attempst to help from the psychopaths

We KNOW your possession with the psychopaths  You have HAARPed on it for some time. We are trying to address getting you focues on using money to live better

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 11:42:22 PM
And at least 50% of stuff you see on the net about those topics is BS but it gets shared as "fact' anyway. Does that not make the conspiracy folkes as bad as the psychopaths?

::)

YOU are so focused on the psychopaths you cannot separate your money woes and my attempst to help from the psychopaths

We KNOW your possession with the psychopaths  You have HAARPed on it for some time. We are trying to address getting you focues on using money to live better

That would be rather selfish of Me to reduce or quit efforts to solve for Them in control here, n'est pas?  Not that I have not:

Put together a book and created a site to sell it on
Created product on Zazzle
Tweeted like mad about both
Created a vid asking for support of My work
Apply to all jobs I find that I am capable of
Set up a site to display My design work and allow Others to contact Me for work
Put My resume up w/link to that site
Tweet like mad about that
All other things that I can think of that I can do

And...  I keep believing, knowing, that each effort is going to bring large return.  I figured it would be a lot sooner than now, but I guess it's all still "in the works."

But it's all My fault. 

And...  You make it sound as if I am obsessed.  Like a rabid fan of a star.  Nothing can be further from the truth.  I have identified the problem Humanity has on this planet:  psychopaths in control.  And I have developed a solution.  I feel obligated (NOT obsessed!) to share awareness to the tipping point that We CAN solve for this unfortunate - and even evil - problem.  For My daughter, especially, and the rest of Humanity, as well.

You can continue to make Me out as some kind of obsessed loon, but that is on You, not Me.  [smile]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

And while We're at it...  What half if these is untrue:

Chemtrails - They're not spraying Us with nanoparticulates of aluminum, strontium, barium?
Loosed GMO's - GMO is not loose on this planet?
Weather manipulation - They're not manipulating weather here?
Fake "news" - Sandy Hook was real?  And all the rest of Their show?
Agenda 21 - It does not exist?

Just those alone are clear evidence of things going on without the Ethical step of getting fully informed consent.  Those alone demonstrate the psychopathy at the top of the power over Others heap.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 04, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
And while We're at it...  What half if these is untrue:

Chemtrails - They're not spraying Us with nanoparticulates of aluminum, strontium, barium?
Loosed GMO's - GMO is not loose on this planet?
Weather manipulation - They're not manipulating weather here?
Fake "news" - Sandy Hook was real?  And all the rest of Their show?
Agenda 21 - It does not exist?

Just those alone are clear evidence of things going on without the Ethical step of getting fully informed consent.  Those alone demonstrate the psychopathy at the top of the power over Others heap.
To me, what all those questions demonstrate is that you cannot get clear answers when you ask dubious questions, specially questions that look made in a way to force specific answers.

Chemtrails - Hard to say if they are spraying us or something else, spraying at high altitude will affect all things below it, so they may be spraying the trees (for example) and we are also getting sprayed, although we aren't the target of the spraying. Also, they may be spraying us with those products but not in chemtraisl.
The way the question was made already implied a specific type of answer, so yes, half of that (or even more) can be either true or false.

Loosed GMOs - It depends mostly on what you mean by "loose on this planet", depending on the definition it may be completely false.

Weather manipulation - Has been happening for a long time, but at what level? How much of it is the result of manipulation? Most of the people that talk about it imply that most of today's weather is the result of manipulation, so, in that case, more than half is not true.

Fake "news" - Sure there are fake "news", but your example of Sandy Hook is a good example, as all the reasons I saw for it to have been fake are assumptions based on ignorance of some facts and relying on what other people say without real basis (but I have to say that I haven't followed this for a long time, I stopped when I noticed that ignorance was rampant among the proponents of the fake theory). Most of that talk about fake "news" is based on some people's imagination (or bad intentions).

Agenda 21 - It exists, but, from what I have seen (once more, I haven't followed this much), not as most conspiracy theorists say, so more than half is not true.

PS: the above is, obviously, my opinion, based on what I have seen and read about those topics. I may not have seen many important data about those or my interpretation of the data may be wrong, but at least I don't present my opinion as facts.  :P

Sinny

Quote from: ArMaP on May 03, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
You do wear blinders, as the above quote shows, the blinders you created for yourself to convince you that you are right.

The worst kind of fool is the one that fools him/herself.  :(

Indeed that is so...

How is it that I find so many of you demonstrating hypocricy at it's finest? So many of you standing blind by your own speculations as fact, whilst at the same time managing to spin speculations on known facts?

Amy is no more obsessed with our psychopathic leaders any more than I, and in fact, possibly conderabley less.

Once our current global situation has been disected and scrutinised, our attention is drawn primarily to these psychopaths as the cause of our woes.

Yada, yada, yada, 'the massess ae dumb sheep they cause they're own misery',

And yes that is true to an extent, but the massess will never have a chance to achieve any better whilst being held under thumb of the most wretched of our species, who are probably so in-bred we could get away with calling them a species of their own.

Obviously we are all in the same game, just at different levels, and certainly some of us on different teams, according to his or her own priorities.

.... "They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".....
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK