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New Moon Anomaly

Started by A51Watcher, August 22, 2012, 05:43:30 AM

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Littleenki

Quote from: Pimander on August 22, 2012, 03:52:18 PM
Neither liquid neon or plasma are present in a "vacuum".   Plasma is basically an ionised gas.

Yes, expelling from under the surface.

Plasma might not be present on the Moon, but it certainly can be ejected into the Moon's proximity from underground, right?

And havent we heard the Moon has a slight atmosphere somewhere?

Funny, a neon tube is vacuumed, and there is plasma occuring inside it...

Or, theres a dome, and this took place within it. :o

Le
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Pimander

I don't thin that a vacuumed neon tube is really a perfect vacuum though (if there is such a thing ;) ).

I'm not hot on image analysis so I'm still not convinced it isn't a processing glitch anyway.  I guess it is possible that plasma could be ejected into the supposedly very thin Lunar atmosphere but the sausage shaped part looks suspiciously like a processing glitch.

However, I am no image expert, just a sponge trying to absorb info quickly.

Littleenki

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Quote from: Pimander on August 22, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
I don't thin that a vacuumed neon tube is really a perfect vacuum though (if there is such a thing ;) ).

I'm not hot on image analysis so I'm still not convinced it isn't a processing glitch anyway.  I guess it is possible that plasma could be ejected into the supposedly very thin Lunar atmosphere but the sausage shaped part looks suspiciously like a processing glitch.

However, I am no image expert, just a sponge trying to absorb info quickly.

I think were on the same page here, Pimander, both of us are spongy! It certainly makes a real cool phot for my collection though..printed it out, and its on my shop wall already!:D

Lets all sponge together!


Cheers!
Dave
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rdunk

Well, let's face at least the truth of what we can see with the photo. There is something very odd here, with what looks like a "planar" surface, extending off of the side of this crater, with very strange looking stick-ups all across the visible top surface. Now I suppose these stick-ups could possibly be attached to the crater wall, rather than a planar surface, but the lighting does leave that in some question.

Only two of these stick-ups seem to be exhibiting activity.  The very bright one, which is front-center, and then, a second one to our far left has what seems to be slight activity.

Then to the rear of all of this, one can see two even larger similar objects, which do not seem to be active. It is hard to tell how they are attached, however, they seem to be horizontal to the the others. and much larger.

To me, this sure does have an appearance of something "very different", and certainly "un-natural, from our general understanding of the NASA Moon. (and I am no moonie either)

This just may be something beyond our current technological understanding. Why don't we just send a Rover over there to check on it??

Anyone ask NASA for a comment?? They may have addressed this long ago!!  ;)

Somamech

Nice Find A51  ;D

Downloading the tiff now ;)

Lunar Dome Atmos Generator for those times when you want it nice and cozy after a hard day mining :D

zorgon


zorgon

Quote from: Littleenki on August 22, 2012, 04:14:28 PM
Lets all sponge together!

There is no point being a sponge if its waterlogged and cannot absorb any more

::)

Sgt.Rocknroll

IMHO, regardless of the source or the content of the anomaly, a light that bright as I said before, should light up the entire area. Except for the immediate area everything is  just a black void...I'm going with photo glitch...but hey what do I know..lolol.... :o

Rock  8)
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

Littleenki

Quote from: zorgon on August 22, 2012, 08:05:46 PM
There is no point being a sponge if its waterlogged and cannot absorb any more

::)
No, Z, I meant the space chicks could give us a sponge bath....:D
Le
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ArMaP

First of all, nice find. :)

Now, about the anomaly. As Sgt.Rocknroll said, if it was on the Moon's surface it should brighten things up, at least a little, and we cannot see anything like that.

Knowing that this came from a film camera, I think it's possible that this was really an electrical discharge on the film's surface, as that happens with some frequency if the conditions are right (mostly, no moisture in the air).

I will ask my sister, she's a professional photographer (and the source of my knowledge about photography, either directly or indirectly). Meanwhile, I'm downloading the original TIFFs, but it's going to take a while. :)

Sgt.Rocknroll

ArMaP, I think we're on the same page. I'm trying to download the 6.6 gig jpg2000 file now. Only 2.2 gigs left... :o

Rock
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ArMaP

I downloaded one of the TIFF files but I had two problems:
1 - it was the wrong area. ;D
2 - Photoshop complained about not having enough space on the scratch drives. :(

PS: If I'm not mistaken, the TIFF files are that big because they are 16 bit files, so, while we cannot see any difference from an 8 bit file on a 8 bits per pixel screen connected to a 8 bits per pixel video card, Photoshop can work with those 16 bits, so a levels adjustment gives better results than on an 8 bits file.

rdunk

#27
Well, it is bright enough to light up the "stuff" that is right there around it, in the black of this crater/shadow, because we can see the different pieces.

And I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the "discharge" seems to be happening on the left-leg of a "Y" type stick-up, similar to some of the others we can see there. If one looks closely, the right- leg of the "Y" can be seen sticking out to the right of the discharge. 

The question of this discharge is one thing. The other thing for us to consider is, what is all of this other stuff - the various stick-ups and stick-outs??

Also, does anyone think the "physical" characteristics of the discharge to be just a little interesting? Nowhere is there anything "constant" about it. Notice there a concise blob at its base. From the base, going up (I will call it up) is a thin but not straight discharge beam, amounting to about 15% of the total height of the discharge. Then, from there, the discharge beam is wider, and gets wider the higher it goes, as well as exhibiting some fuzziness/cloudiness.

One other thing - besides the vertical discharge beam, the nearside horizontal seems to display some of that charge, or do you think that is just some kind of reflection. We can see some part of it extending to the far left, onto the visible moon surface. and there is a white object where the beam terminates (or originates?). Then directly to the right of that white object, is another longer white object of some sort (shaped a little like a helicopter - lol )

Just a lot ot consider - somewhere in this may be an answer to our "energy problems" - any other photos of this specific area?

And another screen shot, for simplicity!



 

COSMO

Looks like somebody opened the door and left the light on...
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Littleenki

Quote from: COSMO on August 23, 2012, 01:38:51 AM
Looks like somebody opened the door and left the light on...
Darn Moon kids!:D
LE
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