weather upsets

[sky otter]

is there more going on thatn normal do you guys think?


Nicaragua volcano belches ash cloud, residents evacuated
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/08/13750924-nicaragua-volcano-belches-ash-cloud-residents-evacuated?lite


China Earthquakes 2012: Death Toll Rises
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/08/china-earthquakes-2012_n_1866878.html

Experts: Calif. quakes not related to Costa Rica
http://news.yahoo.com/experts-calif-quakes-not-related-costa-rica-144336408.html

Mw6.8 earthquake hits Jan Mayen in the Arctic with some damage
http://earthquake-report.com/2012/08/30/mw6-6-earthquake-hits-jan-mayen-in-the-arctic-with-some-damage/

http://earthquake-report.com/

the heat and drought and the floods

seems like more than ususal to me

[deuem]

Is it more weather or better and instant reporting?

I never heard of the China problems, it is funny I have to learn about it here and not here.

Our general weather has been the same this year. Overall I see no major changes. Still hot and humid. Still in typhoon season.
Still raining every morning for a hour. The only thing noticable in the sky that has changed is the airport traffic. For some reason they changed flight paths and we are now buzzed day and night with low flying commercial jets. For 10 years I never even saw a jet in the sky, now they are out there in the hundreds a month. No spraying that I can see, just landing. The landing field is about 100 miles away. So we are now on an approach vector. They used to fly up the river, now they go over land, which means over head. Yesterday I saw 2 come in side by side. maybe 1,000 feet apart or less. Looked like they were drag racing.

Sky I am looking forward to the cold weather. If you have some, send it down.  Deuem

[sky otter]

 

ah Deuem
if i could sent you some cool i would.. friady night thur sat we finally got some rain and the temps dropped into the mid 60's F...it's a good thing..lol
i've never understood desert dwellers..give me the mountains and trees..

hey
i thought of you when i read this a minute ago..


By NBC News
The landing gear door of a Boeing 767 fell from the sky and narrowly missed a car parked a couple of feet away in Kent, Wash., NBC station KING 5 of Seattle reported.


Roughly the size of a refrigerator door, the Boeing part is made of carbon fiber, Federal Aviation Administration officials told KING. Bits of carbon fiber remained embedded deep in the pavement of Southeast 231st Way, about 15 miles east of Seattle, after FAA officials toted the part away as part of an investigation, KING reported.

Neighbors rushed outside Friday as soon as they heard it hit the ground.

Witnesses told The Associated Press the panel hit the ground and skipped about 30 feet before stopping in a street Friday morning. Several pieces broke off.

Leah Dermody, who photographed the door, told KING that some of her neighbors claimed to have heard a plane pass very low over the neighborhood just before the part dropped.

Residents said the fact no one was hit is pure luck.

Neighbor John Hansen told KING he would hold on to a piece of the plane.

"A souvenir.  Keep it and see how lucky I was," he said. "It's gotta be a one in a million shot."


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/08/13752726-boeing-767s-landing-gear-door-falls-into-neighborhood-near-seattle?lite

[Shasta56]

I think the weather is crazier and I think we hear nore about it.   I think the Elements are not pleased with many of our actions.
We are in the flight path for Buckley.  Something large goes over my house most nights around ten.  The fighters practice maneuvers freqhently, and there's no shortage of chi.ooks a.d blackhawks.  When the transport planes are low, in their final approach, they look likd they're just suspended in the sky.

Shata

[sky otter]

the artic .. a key to tomorrow's weather



Record loss of Arctic ice may trigger extreme weather

Icebergs float in a bay off Ammassalik Island, Greenland. Ice melt could result in extreme weather this winter in North America and Europe, according to climate scientists. (John McConnico / Associated Press)



By Monte Morin

September 13, 2012, 7:00 a.m.
Arctic sea ice is shrinking at a rate much faster than scientists ever predicted and its collapse, due to global warming, may well cause extreme weather this winter in North America and Europe, according to climate scientists.

Last month, researchers announced that Arctic sea ice had dwindled to the smallest size ever observed by man, covering almost half the area it did 30 years ago, when satellites and submarines first began measuring it.

While the loss of summer sea ice is likely to open up new shipping lanes and may connect the West Coast of the United States to the Far East via a trans-polar route, researchers say it will also affect weather patterns and Arctic wildlife.

"It's probably going to be a very interesting winter," climate scientist Jennifer Francis said Wednesday in a teleconference with reporters. Francis, a researcher at the Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences at Rutgers University, has argued that shrinking Arctic ice can be tied to such recent weather events as prolonged cold spells in Europe, heavy snows in the Northeastern U.S. and Alaska, and heat waves in Russia.

Decades ago, Arctic ice covered about 6 million square miles of sea in the winter, and would shrink to about 3 million square miles in the summer. The rate of summer melt increased enormously around 2005, however, and today scientists say Arctic ice covers about 1 million square miles.

"This is a very small amount of ice indeed," said Peter Wadhams, an ocean physics professor at the University of Cambridge. Wadhams said that while Arctic ice used to build up over many years, new ice formations are now breaking up and melting each summer.

"I think that what we can expect in the next few years is further collapse leading to an ice-free Arctic in summer," Wadhams said. "It really is a dramatic change."

Previously, scientists had predicted that it would take 30 or 40 more years before the Arctic was ice-free in the summer.

The loss of Arctic ice has several effects. Ice reflects heat and solar energy back into space. With less ice cover, that heat energy is instead absorbed by the ocean, which warms and melts more ice. Currently, the Arctic region is the fastest-warming region on the planet, and the change in temperature will probably influence weather patterns here and in Europe, according to Francis.

The heating and cooling of Arctic seawater has been affecting the jet stream -- the river of air that flows from west to east high above the Earth's surface -- and has slowed it down, Francis said. The jet stream controls the formation and movement of storm systems, so when its movement slows, weather conditions persist for longer periods of time over the same area. They get "stuck."

"If you're in a nice dry pattern with sunny skies, it's great if it lasts for a few days. But If it lasts for a few weeks, well then you're starting to talk about a drought," Francis said. "If you have a rainy pattern and it hangs around for a long time, then that becomes a situation that could lead to flooding."

Arctic warming will influence weather to the south during the late fall and winter. While Francis said it would probably result in severe weather this winter, it was impossible to predict when and where those events would occur.

Record ice melts this year and in 2007 have alarmed many scientists, mostly because they thought it would take many more years to reach this state.

James Overland, an oceanographer with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said forecasts failed to account for the physics of lost solar energy reflection and warming ocean water.

"These are really surprises to most scientists," Overland said. "In looking at climate models that are used to look forward, they've tended to say the Arctic may be ice-free by 2040 or 2050. It looks like things are happening a lot faster, and it's because not all of the physics that we're seeing today were well-handled in these climate models."

Overland, who is also an associate professor at the University of Washington's Department of Atmospheric Sciences, said these effects are known as "Arctic amplification" and would carry heavy consequences for wildlife like polar bears and walruses by reducing their habitat.

Wednesday's telephone news conference was hosted by Climate Nexus, a New York-based nonprofit that seeks to publicize the effects of climate change. [/color]

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-arctic-ice-melt-20120912,0,5522231.story?track=rss

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and as the water rises..

Race to save Alaskan Arctic archaeology
By Nick Crumpton
BBC News, Aberdeen
7 September 2012 Last updated at 12:56 ET


The coastline is now subject to greater rates of erosion


A recently discovered 500-year-old Alaskan settlement is rapidly disappearing into the Bering Sea.

The exquisitely preserved frozen site provides a spectacular insight into the Yup'ik Eskimo culture.

Researchers from the University of Aberdeen are using isotope analyses on recovered Eskimo hair to investigate how humans adapted to rapid climate change in the Arctic village.

The research was discussed at the British Science Festival.

The Yup'ik culture was one of the last contacted Eskimo societies, but prevailed over an area three times the size of Scotland.

Although very little had been known about the archaeology of their society, a team from the University of Aberdeen was brought in to help rescue thousands of artifacts that were being eroded out of the ground near the modern village of Quinhagak.

The research was discussed at the British Science Festival.

The Yup'ik culture was one of the last contacted Eskimo societies, but prevailed over an area three times the size of Scotland.

Although very little had been known about the archaeology of their society, a team from the University of Aberdeen was brought in to help rescue thousands of artifacts that were being eroded out of the ground near the modern village of Quinhagak.

"Storm periods are now lasting weeks longer because of the lack of ice cover"
Dr Rick Knecht

University of Aberdeen
"It's probably the most spectacularly well preserved and valuable site in terms of information content I've ever seen", Dr Rick Knecht, of the University of Aberdeen, said.

"In the first couple of years we found about 7,000 pieces, including items like ivory, woven grass, incredibly well preserved animal remains, animal fur and even human hair."

But the means by which the bounty of discoveries has been released from the soil is also the reason why the site is being eradicated.

"It's preserved by permafrost, and the permafrost is melting due to climate change. As it melts, it exposes the very soft soil to marine erosion: the shoreline retreats and the sites get damaged," explained Dr Knecht, who has been working in Alaska for more than 30 years.

"This year, we were shocked by the amount of destruction. There were artifacts as big as tables thrown up on the bank by a single storm on a high tide.


Already thousands of artefacts have been unearthed

"These storm periods are now lasting weeks longer because of the lack of ice cover. The sea ice cover is at a record low right now and continuing to drop, and every time that happens the site is at more at risk," the researcher told the BBC.

Clues from climates past

Ironically, the artifacts released by the effects of sea ice reduction may help the scientists better understand how the Yup'ik people adapted to a rapidly changing climate.

The site, known as Nunalleq, was inhabited from around AD 1350 to AD 1650, during which time the area suffered through "The Little Ice Age".

By analyzing extremely well preserved hair found at the site, the team hopes to understand how the people of Nunalleq altered their behaviour with a changing environment.



"Chemical signatures, the isotopes in your food, become present in your hair. You are what you eat," explained Dr Kate Britton, also of the University of Aberdeen.

"By analysing strands of the hair of multiple individuals, we're getting this picture of a very mixed and generalized economy incorporating salmon, caribou and other animal species.


You are what you eat: Hair samples give clues to past diets and behaviours "This is in the earlier phase of the site and we're now working on the younger sites which will give us a clear idea of how the people's diet was adapting to changes in climatic conditions which would have affected species availability," she said.

"We can take this evidence and get an idea of what sort of changes were happening in the Bering Sea ecosystem and what sorts of changes were going on in terms of people's subsistence."

Dr Knecht added: "I think we'll be looking at a story of resilience in the face of very rapid climate change."

As the Arctic sea ice continues to decrease today, many indigenous communities are under threat from changes in the weather, but also from changes in the abundance of subsistence food stocks such as salmon and seals.

Dr Knecht underlined how important the protection of the site was for understanding both the past and how to deal with the future.

"This isn't just an area of cultural importance, but we could also create a predictive model about what to expect in the coming decades," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19521091


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[zorgon]

is there more going on thatn normal do you guys think?

Globe gets warmer (no such thing as global warming )
Ice Sheets Melt
Pressure is removed from Land Mass
That causes Land Mass to shift
That cause EQ'a and Volcanoes
All that cause climate change

means Next Ice Age is on the way...

Nothing to see here... move along now... this is Normal for the Earth...

Oh wait  forgot you Hairless Monkeys missed the last cycle

My Advice? Stock up on food, firewood and blankets and move south if you can

Time is running out...

[deuem]

Globe gets warmer (no such thing as global warming )
Ice Sheets Melt
Pressure is removed from Land Mass
That causes Land Mass to shift
That cause EQ'a and Volcanoes
All that cause climate change

means Next Ice Age is on the way...

Nothing to see here... move along now... this is Normal for the Earth...

Oh wait  forgot you Hairless Monkeys missed the last cycle

My Advice? Stock up on food, firewood and blankets and move south if you can

Time is running out...

Wondering on this chart? It shows we are getting colder and that 10,000 years ago we were at our warmest, yet these ice packs are just now melting?  Or have they been melting for 10,000 years and we are just now at the low level. the chart as I see it would suggest that every thing that is beeing found has to be at least 125,000 years old so it was put there when there was no ice?

Does the shaded green area mean frozen or below normial and world ice is increasing. If so then this is an ice planet. With a few peaks in the sun. I see 5 times frozen, do they match extinsion?

[Pimander]

Wondering on this chart? It shows we are getting colder

It doesn't show that at all does it?

[sky otter]

Record minimum for Arctic sea ice
By Paul Rincon

Science editor, BBC News website
19 September 2012 Last updated at 13:36 ET

Arctic sea ice has reached its minimum extent for the year, setting a record for the lowest summer cover since satellite data collection began.

The 2012 extent has fallen to 3.41 million sq km (1.32 million sq mi) - 50% lower than the 1979-2000 average.

Arctic sea ice has long been regarded as a sensitive indicator of changes in the climate.

Scientists who have been analysing the startling melt think it is part of a fundamental change.

"We are now in uncharted territory," said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Center (NSIDC) in Colorado, US.

"While we've long known that as the planet warms up, changes would be seen first and be most pronounced in the Arctic, few of us were prepared for how rapidly the changes would actually occur."

Paul.Rincon-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk

Read the rest here....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19652329



Analysis
David Shukman

Science editor, BBC News

It's difficult to grasp the scale of this but picture about a dozen United Kingdoms lined up side by side: that's how much more sea ice has vanished beyond the average amount left at the end the summer over the past 30 years.

This is a bigger, faster, more dramatic melt than anyone would have imagined possible even a few years ago. The most striking impression during a visit to Svalbard earlier this month was the look of shock on the faces of the scientists.

The models have underestimated the rapidity of the processes at work. The polar winters will always see the ocean refreeze. But the prospect of change on a planetary scale looms closer: the Arctic ice cap, a permanent feature at the roof of the world throughout human history, becoming a seasonal, temporary one instead, and sooner rather than later.

Read more from David

Arctic sea ice set to hit record lowBy Mark Kinver
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19330307



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17803691
Europe's Cryosat mission is now watching the ebb and flow of Arctic sea ice with high precision.

The radar spacecraft was launched in 2010 to monitor changes in the thickness and shape of polar ice.

Scientists have spent the past two years getting to grips with its data.

And on Tuesday, they reported that Cryosat was now delivering an unprecedented view of the seasonal growth and retreat of sea ice spanning the entire Arctic basin.

The researchers also released a map showing the difference in height across the Greenland ice sheet.

Click the two tabs above to see visualisations of the satellite's data.

Cryosat mission delivers first sea-ice map
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13829785



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[sky otter]

 
wow.. now it is getting interesting..

Fossil forest may sprout again as the Canadian Arctic warms
Scientist says Bylot Island woods looked like ones found today in south of Alaska
By Jeanna Bryner
Managing editor



An ancient forest once flourished on the Canadian Arctic's Bylot Island (shown here), and researchers say global warming may revive it. Credit: Alexandre Guertin-Pasquie

A fossilized forest that flourished more than 2.5 million years ago could return to life thanks to a warming planet, scientists say.

The paleo-scene won't sprout up overnight, of course, said Alexandre Guertin-Pasquier of the University of Montreal, who will present his research at the Canadian Paleontology Conference in Toronto this week.

Rather, he said, climate forecasts suggest that, by 2100, the now-uninhabited Bylot Island where the fossilized forest was discovered will support temperatures similar to those prevalent when the forest thrived.

"The fossil forest found in Bylot Island probably looked like the ones actually found in the (present-day) south of Alaska, where tree-line boreal forest grows near some glacier margins," Guertin-Pasquier wrote in an email. "The main plant diversity also seems to be similar between these two environments," which both include willow, pine and spruce trees.



Will our grandchildren actually see this forest come to life?


Credit: Alexandre Guertin-Pasquier  - A typical peat and wood sample collected from the ancient forest on Bylot Island.

"I think it's very possible we might see forest compositions of the past returning with warming," Larisa R.G. DeSantis, who was not involved in the study, told LiveScience. "The question is whether those trees will be able to make it up there," DeSantis said, adding that in some ways it's a lot easier for animals to migrate to different conditions.

"But trees have another whole level of difficulty, their potential for movement is based on their dispersal of seeds and that sort of thing, so their movement is constrained," said DeSantis, who studies, among other topics, the reconstruction of ancient environments, at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn.

Read the rest of the article here

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[The Matrix Traveller]

Globe gets warmer (no such thing as global warming  )
Ice Sheets Melt
Pressure is removed from Land Mass
That causes Land Mass to shift
That cause EQ'a and Volcanoes
All that cause climate change

means Next Ice Age is on the way...

Nothing to see here... move along now... this is Normal for the Earth...

Just part of the Earths Thermal Cycle.....

Watch what happens when it peaks....

Nothing to see here... move along now...

Plenty to see in a few years time.... 

Could be rather exciting for some...

But still only a part of the Earths NATURAL "Thermal Cycle" though.

I found this "Sculpture" in our City a couple of days ago, a huge "Stainless Steel" Ball
about 4 Meters (12 Feet) in Diameter with Deep Fissures in it.

I wonder what all this is really about ?

See Attachments..

[sky otter]

News Corp. Climate Change Coverage Is Misleading, Analysis Claims
Posted: 09/25/2012 1:48 pm EDT Updated: 09/25/2012 2:14 pm EDT

93 percent of Fox News' and 80 percent of the Wall Street Journal opinion pages' climate coverage is inaccurate and misleading according to an analysis titled "Is News Corp. Failing Science," from The Union of Concerned Scientists. The report examined how various media outlets fare in their coverage of climate related news.

Scientific American explains that, according to the analysis, in 37 out of 40 occurrences, Fox's staff made dismissive and inaccurate comments regarding climate change, misleading audiences of its importance and relevance, and that from August 2011 to July 2012 only nine out of the Wall Street Journal's 48 mentions of climate were accurate.

Many scientists are coming out in defense of the "Is News Corp. Failing Science" report. According to Media Matters, at least 10 scientists have gone as far as calling the Fox News and the Wall Street Journal's coverage "Utter Nonsense."

read the rest of the article here;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/25/news-corp-climate-change-coverage_n_1912896.html?utm_hp_ref=media&ir=Media

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[deuem]

Yesterday at 4:22 am we had a very large lightning stike right near the house ( condos ). The thunder was so loud it bounced me out of bed and sent kids all over the place yelling for mommy. There was no storm, no rain, no clouds in the sky. Just the one huge strike and it was over.

That was strange in my book. It has never happened before. Has anyone had this happen?

Deuem

[thorfourwinds]

Yesterday at 4:22 am we had a very large lightning stike right near the house ( condos ). The thunder was so loud it bounced me out of bed and sent kids all over the place yelling for mommy. There was no storm, no rain, no clouds in the sky. Just the one huge strike and it was over.

That was strange in my book. It has never happened before. Has anyone had this happen?

Deuem

Your phone is tapped and Zorgon wanted your attention.

Peace Love Light

tfw   

Liberty & Equality or Revolution

[zorgon]

That was strange in my book. It has never happened before. Has anyone had this happen?
Deuem

BST in Northern Ca, me in Vegas and Sky Otter in the east  all have seen several recent "Light show" storms where all you get is hundreds of lighting flashes and no thunder or rain.

Years ago in Winnipeg I was in the garden... clear day, hot and dry and a single bolt hit my neighbors CB antenna  Close enough to physically knock me down from the shock wave

Heat lightning and 'Dry Lightning' are common here in the west

And we still are getting 100F during the days  My pomegranate tree is growing a second growth and flowers before the fruit already there are ripe. Irises are coming up a second time  Plants are all confused

I need a break from this heat... been 100F plus since beginning of May and we has a record 100F middle of April this year

Water bill has been murder keeping my plants and tress alive