are the mibs on here?

[Amaterasu]

Well it won't work to well in a Communist  framework either. And I am to old to wait for a new framework.

Well, it will work to bring an abundanist framework about...

As I tweet often:  "I am not a #communist, a #socialist, a #capitalist, a #fascist, a #nihilist... I AM an #ABUNDANCIST."

[zorgon]

Well, it will work to bring an abundanist framework about...

Time frame to realization?


In the mean time....

Give the people LIGHT

Solar is the way to go and you already have it in your nick name

[petrus4]

Unlike solar power and burning wood for free heat....  it can be EASILY converted to weapons use.

If everyone has access to that unlimited (say EG or Zero point) energy, then ANYONE can make a powerful weapon like TESLA did with his resonance and death ray

Yes, maturity is a prerequisite for it.

We've only really got one war going on at the moment now though, Zorgon.  The war between the Jews and the Arabs.  Truthfully, if you really look at it, that's actually the only war we've had for a long, long time.  The only thing that has really changed has been the battlefields; but I can't think of a single major conflict from the last 150 years that the Jews either were not indirectly responsible for, or that did not involve them in some significant way.

In other words, if we can end that one war, then we can have peace.

Fundamentally, my own apostasy from Christianity, as I've said before, was a rejection of Jewish tyranny.  I refuse to accept a reality in which humanity is rendered extinct, and the potential of humanity as an entire species is wasted, purely because of Jewish psychopathy.  It also does not have anything to do with God; I do not believe that the behaviour of the Jewish psychopathic minority is remotely divine, in any way whatsoever.

Lest you interpret from this, that I am an anti-Semite, think again.  I know about the Kibbutzim.  I know about the Israel Loves Iran movement.  The root of this problem are a minority; the Zionist Ashkenazim.  We are not talking about Israel as an entire ethnic group.

I will not, however, subscribe to Judeo/Christian eschatology, and I will also, if I can, do anything possible to prevent that model from coming to fruition.  We as a species both deserve better, and are capable of better.

[andolin]

"Solar is the way to go"

Wish I was 25 years younger so I could install it....Around here (NE Seaboard), Solar contractors are coming on strong, but they all want to own the hardware and sell you back the power, at least the ones I looked at...no better than the utility companies, plus a big hassle when you try to sell the house. Private contractors will install it at twice that price, and then you own it, but I can't afford that either..Maybe when the new tech catches up to the consumer market (Solarfilm ect.) the price will come down...It seems that the powers that be are more lienent with solar tech...Maybe because it is somewhat being ignored in the personal transportation industries..

[Amaterasu]

Time frame to realization?


In the mean time....

Give the people LIGHT

Solar is the way to go and you already have it in your nick name

I pronounce it "So-LAHR..."  And I chose it for the fact that Amaterasu is the Shinto Sun Goddess.  Seemed appropriate.  [smile]

As for timeframe...  Depends on when We can get the tech out of the butts of the black project folks.  [grin]  Or get other tech.  If the tech was out there like solar tech, about the same time frame...  Sadly, that is not so.

I will say, if enough People (Individuals or businesses) install solar, the same end result will occur.  Free energy is free energy.

[Amaterasu]

Yes, maturity is a prerequisite for it.

We've only really got one war going on at the moment now though, Zorgon.  The war between the Jews and the Arabs.  Truthfully, if you really look at it, that's actually the only war we've had for a long, long time.  The only thing that has really changed has been the battlefields; but I can't think of a single major conflict from the last 150 years that the Jews either were not indirectly responsible for, or that did not involve them in some significant way.

In other words, if we can end that one war, then we can have peace.

Fundamentally, my own apostasy from Christianity, as I've said before, was a rejection of Jewish tyranny.  I refuse to accept a reality in which humanity is rendered extinct, and the potential of humanity as an entire species is wasted, purely because of Jewish psychopathy.  It also does not have anything to do with God; I do not believe that the behaviour of the Jewish psychopathic minority is remotely divine, in any way whatsoever.

Lest you interpret from this, that I am an anti-Semite, think again.  I know about the Kibbutzim.  I know about the Israel Loves Iran movement.  The root of this problem are a minority; the Zionist Ashkenazim.  We are not talking about Israel as an entire ethnic group.

I will not, however, subscribe to Judeo/Christian eschatology, and I will also, if I can, do anything possible to prevent that model from coming to fruition.  We as a species both deserve better, and are capable of better.

Or...  As was illustrated in the "Old West," where People presume everyOne is armed, crime is lower and politeness is higher.  And in The Abundance Paradigm, the motive for crime will be virtually nil.

[Amaterasu]

"Solar is the way to go"

Wish I was 25 years younger so I could install it....Around here (NE Seaboard), Solar contractors are coming on strong, but they all want to own the hardware and sell you back the power, at least the ones I looked at...no better than the utility companies, plus a big hassle when you try to sell the house. Private contractors will install it at twice that price, and then you own it, but I can't afford that either..Maybe when the new tech catches up to the consumer market (Solarfilm ect.) the price will come down...It seems that the powers that be are more lienent with solar tech...Maybe because it is somewhat being ignored in the personal transportation industries..

Sounds like TPTB finding ways to control solar power too.

[andolin]

Sounds like TPTB finding ways to control solar power too.

Yah I guess I am making my own argument....Solar still seems less infringed upon than things like Hydrogen Cells and the like...TPTB seems to be more lienent with "Green Tech"..

[robomont]

im listening zorgon.
i want to know about assembling solar panels.
how cheap are the parts and are they toxic to handle?
your bill is too damn high.
i have a wood burning stove.they save alot of money.probly seventy to a hundred each month in the winter.1500sq.ft.house.
the only problem with solar is batteries.i may be wrong about that though.

[Amaterasu]

Yah I guess I am making my own argument....Solar still seems less infringed upon than things like Hydrogen Cells and the like...TPTB seems to be more lienent with "Green Tech"..

And hide viciously electrogravitics and other solutions.

[zorgon]

Sounds like TPTB finding ways to control solar power too.

No they are not... in fact they are giving monetary incentives to change over

Here in Nevada the power company is in the forefront of such incentives and laws are already in place stating that the power company must pay YOU for any extra produced

Solar cells are available online everywhere from little portable systems to run your laptop or cell phone while camping to full blown power station level solar collectors Just in vegas alone there are hundreds of housed with them on the roof and many corporations running the full Amonix mega collectors

[zorgon]

And hide viciously electrogravitics and other solutions.

So you keep claiming but all my years of research has showm me that the PTB have long ago dropped electrogravitics as the answer.

I know you don't want to believe that, but all the military research I see is moving in another direction entirely and that is fusion and plasma related... more BANG for the BUCK as it were

In fact HE3 Fusion would also instantly solve our energy needs for the entire planet for the next 100,000 years and THAT technology is not hidden. In fact a high school level kid can build a fusion reactor in his kitchen




All the EG stuff I can find at official sites say the same thing... technology that reached a dead end and its only historical interest.

You can tell me it's being covered up, but I don't believe it is.  All the FOIA documents on budget reports point to billions being spent on fusion and plasma technology. In fact Monsanto was doing HE3 Fusion research in the 60's at their Mounds Atomic Lab and I have the declassified delivery slips to prove it

Sorry to burst your bubble, but my support is going to be towards Helium Fusion, both safe (as it requires virtually NO shielding and doesn't produce radioactive waste) and a small amount of HE3 can power the world for a year

[A51Watcher]

Printing Solar Panels in the Backyard


http://sciencefriday.com/topics/energy/video/09/21/2012/printing-solar-panels-in-the-backyard.html

[petrus4]

All the EG stuff I can find at official sites say the same thing...

Official.  Sorry, Zorgon, but there's only one way to describe my reaction to that.

[TheJanitor]

No one is bumping people off for solar energy...

Now this is why it makes sense. Can't have an engineering team if they keep getting bumped off.


And EG, FE is real folks. The FE isn't going to provide the power levels of fission, think of the ambient heat in your enviroment. Its an electromagnetic heat pump.

And EG is the real power, especially for weapons. So no hear, no see, no speak on that one...

So why not? Embedded solar power for the masses?