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Started by robomont, September 10, 2012, 06:58:51 PM

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The Seeker

Quote from: Back on September 30, 2012, 06:57:38 PM
Hi All Every other site that I even started to talk about a radient reciver I was shuned.
I hope that it dont happen here.

Bless
Back
Welcome to our world, Back; we are all friends here, and I am sure that many such as Playswithmachines, LittleEnki, and several more will be interested in your project...

you don't have to beg, just ask... 8)


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zorgon

Quote from: Littleenki on September 29, 2012, 05:05:14 AM
Geez, why does this all sound so easy?

Because it is :D

QuoteWhat is stopping everyone from doing this..beyond the expense of retrofitting that is?

Lack of knowledge. The same reason they never teach kids in school the basics of managing your own finance and credit.

If they taught such simple stuff, people would be more free. Having worked in the alarm trade for years I can tell you that running low voltage systems in your house does NOT require a permit. Speaker systems, cable tv telephone and 12 volt lighting are all low voltage systems.

Since most solar panels are already producing low voltage DC power, like PWM said its easy to tun a secondary system

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 29, 2012, 11:54:05 AM
[sigh] Less power in to the EG units than the generator puts out.  No.  It "proves" nothing, but no illustration "proves" anything, eh?
Whatever, Pim.

Oh come on..

What Pim meant is that picture of yours is just a representation of an idea. There is no useful data in that image to build one.

This is a research forum... well its supposed to be. As such we are going to look hard at picture and need more info to get to working models. That image of yours, as presented would do.... nothing

Now if it came with schematic and experimental data tables... then we can look at it subjectively

If you want people taking a project seriously, you have to provide serious data to back it up

Here is a working machine that was REJECTED by the US Patent office :P

No idea why :D


zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 30, 2012, 01:38:51 AM
Pim, I am not in the position of proving anything.  Like I said, I only have what My father taught Me of.  And that is pretty much literally.

Do you have any of his papers? I did try using google to find anything but not much luck. maybe if you had some key notes to help the search

QuoteBut I do recommend Dr. Paul A. LaViolette's Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion.  Very good and persuasive info there.

Dr. Paul A. LaViolette's work is interesting... but even he cannot put a working model of a free energy machine on the table that we can look at. I even emailed him if he could take a minute to stop by here and answer some questions

On 3/26/2012 6:51 AM, Paul LaViolette wrote:
> Dear Mr. Schmidt,
> I'm sorry that at the moment I don't have any time available as to intense work on a project.
> Best regards,
> Paul LaViolette



It doesn't take more that a few minutes to answer a question... even had he only replied in that email. I guess we are not important enough. Sound a little like a standard brush off. You would think a guy on the fringe of science would be a little more tolerant of nuts like us that actually SUPPORT his work, eh?

Ah well ...


zorgon

Quote from: Back on September 30, 2012, 06:57:38 PM
Hi All
Would it be possiable to take the info. on solar power from this thread and start a thread in the research area?

Yes working on that... This thread is just a general free for all LOL considering the title :P

QuoteMuch of the problems with storage and 12v to 120 ac related to solar are also a problem with the Tesla radient reciever that I am working on.

Yes quite true. Any alternative energy source would need technology to convert it to be useful to our appliances and devices. If we cannot do that the energy is useless  Either that or we would need all new devices.

PWM told me that a good inverter runs around $1,000 per kilowatt  so the initial expense IS a problem.  His solution of running a new wire system eliminates that problem :D

QuoteOk the reciever is an obsession of mine.
With the random and primitave  tests I did last winter makes me believe that at the least 500 watts can be generated day and night. I am thinking with research and testing it could be a lot more than that.

Can set you a section for radiant energy... Warren York just joined and with him and Matyas (The Janitor) there will be interest Just PM me for detail

The Seeker

Z, only you could find and post a print of "Steely Dan" rotflmao  8)
I also would like to see at least a proto-type or plans for a proposed model to peruse...


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Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
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robomont

why cant you start a thread called radient receiver?

this thread is so off topic but it keeps running strong, four weeks now,lol.

i agree with zorgon that we need some facts and figures.i for one want to believe but i need a foundation to stand upon.

did i miss zorgons posting of the cost of materials for the solarcell build.im up for it, maybe.

as far as tesla,i know alot about his stuff but could never really understand the radient receiver.
does it pull in all hv gradients or does it pull in one hv and convert it.there are lots of frequencies buzzing around out there.
does it create a frequency blackhole of sorts?curious minds want to know.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

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Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on September 30, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
Do you have any of his papers? I did try using google to find anything but not much luck. maybe if you had some key notes to help the search

My dad was an electrical engineer (one of the top) at Convair.  He did NOT publish anything on classified projects He was working on, no.  If there was anything at all in His possession when He passed, I was not there to see it & My mother did not report it, and it was not in HER things when She passed.

I doubt He kept notes at home anyway.  When He came home that night, late from work, and woke Me to tell Me We couldn't talk about flying cars, free energy, etc. - or even say the word, "electrogravitics" - because "They want it secret for now," that was the LAST TIME He spoke of His work.  It was all secret. Top secret.  Above top secret, even.

Good luck finding a damned thing.

QuoteDr. Paul A. LaViolette's work is interesting... but even he cannot put a working model of a free energy machine on the table that we can look at. I even emailed him if he could take a minute to stop by here and answer some questions

On 3/26/2012 6:51 AM, Paul LaViolette wrote:
> Dear Mr. Schmidt,
> I'm sorry that at the moment I don't have any time available as to intense work on a project.
> Best regards,
> Paul LaViolette



It doesn't take more that a few minutes to answer a question... even had he only replied in that email. I guess we are not important enough. Sound a little like a standard brush off. You would think a guy on the fringe of science would be a little more tolerant of nuts like us that actually SUPPORT his work, eh?

Ah well ...

Don't know what's the deal with Paul.  I think there's enough in that book, Secrets of Antigravity propulsion, to get going in the right direction.  But believe Me...

IF I had $$$$$$$$$$$ I would have a place and tools and such and I would be building the damned thing for You.  But it's REALLY hard to build things when the whole sum One has to work with hovers around $1 on the average, and one is effectively homeless or living in a one room cabin.

Also...  The REALLY high K, non-linear dielectrics are tough to come by.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on September 30, 2012, 11:23:14 PM
Good luck finding a damned thing.

Yeah it is hard... unless you made a name for yourself in a field, very rarely can you find anything in reference material because its all under your company

QuoteDon't know what's the deal with Paul.  I think there's enough in that book, Secrets of Antigravity propulsion, to get going in the right direction. 

There may be... and I am puzzled about his reaction. What we need at PRC is one other new group. I will set it up :D

QuoteIF I had $$$$$$$$$$$ I would have a place and tools and such and I would be building the damned thing for You. 

Really? You have enough info to build us a working model? How much ya need?  If we had something solid we could seek funding. That was one of the goals of PRC at the beginning.

In the meantime what we need is blueprints sketches and collected data on results so far. We have builders here that have some money, but they need blueprints

QuoteBut it's REALLY hard to build things when the whole sum One has to work with hovers around $1 on the average, and one is effectively homeless or living in a one room cabin.

True that... but my daughter just took in some bags of aluminum cans she collected from neighbors.  Netted $42.00 cash (she learned that from her old man :P )

Guy across the street cleaned out his garage... had a lot of old metal tools chairs etc  all rusted scrap. Tossed it into my truck and ran it up to the scrap yard... $180.45 was the check :D  Copper (from bits of pipe tossed out and stripped electrical wire is 3.00 a pound scrap.  I sit and strip wire with a box cutter while watching TV

Not gonna get rich like that but its FREE and TAX FREE MONEY :D

QuoteAlso...  The REALLY high K, non-linear dielectrics are tough to come by.

True that... so that is why I plan to push Solar energy solutions. That is affordable for most, easy to build and install and not dangerous

Not the final solution but it will help many in the here and now. I cannot save the world, but I can help some


Re Patents.

That sex machine I posted was more than a bit of humor... it was an important point..

We talk a lot about coverup and hidden tech, but we overlook the low end of the totem...

The Patent Clerk...

The patent clerk is the guy who usually has no or little knowledge in anything that is presented and only follows a loose guideline from a rule book.

But he has the power to make it or break it and that is the main problem in getting an invention out

That dildo machine powered by steam :P was a great idea whose time had not yet come, but today they are available everywhere. In this case it was likely a moral issue that caused that clerk to reject it...

But lets look at something more on topic.

T.H.Moray's Box... the one that you could literally plug your house into and get unlimited free energy. It was even vetted and documented by 100 of his peers at the time...

Yet when he applied for a patent, the patent clerk rejected it because Moray could not explain WHERE the power came from... and that was the end of that.



At that time the government was not yet covering up technology. That was in an age where guys like Moray and Tesla where encouraged

So just what was in that wooden box? we will never know thanks to that lowly patent clerk that had no vision and now all those papers are gone





PLAYSWITHMACHINES

#219
First of all, let me welcome Back to the forum :)
Hey that sounds kinda cool...
You are very welcome to post your work in the Inventor's Group, i will PM Zorgon to give you access straight away :) All i ask is that you read the 'attention all newcomers' thread & the 'implications of free energy' thread.
Since you are working on a Tesla machine, you will find a Tesla section under 'inventors', and can post there ;)

Very funny, Zorgon, never seen an espresso machine like THAT before......

QuoteThis is a research forum... well its supposed to be. As such we are going to look hard at picture and need more info to get to working models. That image of yours, as presented would do.... nothing

Now if it came with schematic and experimental data tables... then we can look at it subjectively

If you want people taking a project seriously, you have to provide serious data to back it up

True, but research has many aspects, historical, theoretical, and physical.
I think Pegasus does well in all 3 areas, but like all research, apart from funds, you need to do some serious data gathering.
Some ideas are so vague, and i too whish that Amy had at least some notebooks for us to look at, like we do with Linda.
But that still doesn't matter, by studying all the info & comparing it, building test-rigs to test theories, & then get a working model. Easy.

Zorgon, you can put a 'radient reciever' section in 'Tesla' for me?
I will zap over there if i get the time.

For the rest of you, i have a lot to post about these kind of systems, dead easy, real cheap.
I post these tips like this in the I.F. for example.
Most of it is re-using existing stuff in a new way ;)
Amy, dont worry, i think he may not like being quoted on a 'fringe' site if he's worried about his rep, but Z is right, he could answer some questions, he wrote that book, published it...

QuoteAlso...  The REALLY high K, non-linear dielectrics are tough to come by.
We are working on THAT, too ;)
QuoteIn the meantime what we need is blueprints sketches and collected data on results so far. We have builders here that have some money, but they need blueprints
And that...
Moray?
Yes, that was just some a$$hole who threw out a world-shattering invention, but by pooling the info we now have a better picture of how it all works.
Plans?
I've got 1000's of em.

OK have 2 go, more later.

zorgon

Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on October 01, 2012, 12:39:47 AM
You are very welcome to post your work in the Inventor's Group, i will PM Zorgon to give you access straight away :)

Already done and explanation sent. I also added Warren York

I will shortly add a Radient Energy subsection to PRC unless you want it in Inventors  either way

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on October 01, 2012, 12:16:27 AM
Really? You have enough info to build us a working model? How much ya need?  If we had something solid we could seek funding. That was one of the goals of PRC at the beginning.

I do believe I have enough info, yes.  What I don't have - even with $$$$$$$$$$$$ - is access to the VERY high K non-linear dielectrics.  I also need an electrical engineer to help with the wiring 'n' stuff - I imagine that's doable.  I will see what I can come up with, sketch-wise, but I need to get the Kindle formatting of My book done.  Expect in a day or so.

As for the patent office, yeah.  The lowly clerk is likely to have no clue.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

The Seeker

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 01, 2012, 12:46:37 AM
I do believe I have enough info, yes.  What I don't have - even with $$$$$$$$$$$$ - is access to the VERY high K non-linear dielectrics.  I also need an electrical engineer to help with the wiring 'n' stuff - I imagine that's doable.  I will see what I can come up with, sketch-wise, but I need to get the Kindle formatting of My book done.  Expect in a day or so.

As for the patent office, yeah.  The lowly clerk is likely to have no clue.
Ama, you work on the sketches; there are no problems,lass, only solutions; as the old cliche' goes,where there is a will, there is a way...


seeker
Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
Trolls are crunchy and good with ketchup...
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Littleenki


Here is a working machine that was REJECTED by the US Patent office :P

No idea why :D


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Holy crap, is that a Sterling engine powered sexual toy? Damn, mine were so bring with their paint cans and rubber gaskets..... :o

Le
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robomont

how strong a dialectric do you need.teflon isnt high enough?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore