The Great KAGUYA - Discussion Thread

[zorgon]

but we can see that it gets darker closer to the poles.

The getting darker is simply a darkening of the image overall, a Fase to Black and you don't need to be a film maker to see that.  The shadows have not changed (blending into the coming dark) nor the amount of sunlight. Its simply dimming the overall lights down on the video

The shadows never change.

I want to watch the whole film but I cannot find it any longer and it didn't save when it was first briefly released

Do you have a copy of the original HD one they offered at the beginning?

The sun was perpendicular to the movement of Kaguya/Selene, there wasn't any reason for the shadows to change noticeably. If the sun was shining from the west while Kaguya/Selene was moving from north to south (or south to north), the shadows would always be projected from west to east, with the only possible change in position coming from the angle of the axis of rotation of the Moon.

For there to be zero change in shadow would require that both the Moon and the Sun remain at a fixed point in space. However we know that both the moon rotates and the sun and moon moves in orbit.

The shadows would not remain static

The Japanese moon is either a still photo or a plaster of Paris model

And they colored it purple in the beginning and these videos are the color of moldy green cheese. And we KNOW that the moon has more color than the monotone green that Japan is using as even the original Apollo photos show us brown green and orange hues

So there is NO WAY that the Japanese footage is live of the moon... NO WAY at all

And yes as was pointed out the SIZE of the Earth in those two videos does not match and does not match NASA's own version



And speaking of shadows...

The Lunar Orbiter pictures show the hills on the moon to be sharp pointy craigs with boulders everywhere and long pointy shadows

The Apollo hills are smooth and featureless

[ArMaP]

For there to be zero change in shadow would require that both the Moon and the Sun remain at a fixed point in space. However we know that both the moon rotates and the sun and moon moves in orbit.

How much would the Moon and the Sun change their relative positions during the duration of the video?

[zorgon]

How much would the Moon and the Sun change their relative positions during the duration of the video?

Don't know yet. I originally started this at ATS with BigFatFurryTexan and then continued it at Open Minds and all that data is lost.

The full film as I recall was several orbits... would that not be enough to show change?

How long does it take to show change of shadow length on Earth?

How long does it take Kaguya to complete one orbit"

Is that not enough time to see some change? At the very least a diffusion of the shadow with the surrounding terrain as the sunlight fades? Would not the shadow edges lose there definition as it fades?

The more I watch those Japanese moon images, the more phony they look.

At the very least they have been manipulated. There is no possible way that is a HD live version

[Amaterasu]

At the speed of movement, One should see shadow changes overall - and esp. for a full orbit.  In fact, One would expect to see a day side and a night side in a complete orbit OR a movement along the terminus of the sun-side/antisun-side...

So yeah...  If there was no black night side footage - it is NOT what They say it is.

[ArMaP]

The full film as I recall was several orbits... would that not be enough to show change?

I have never seen the full film, only the small pieces that were published.

How long does it take to show change of shadow length on Earth?

To be noticeable, at least two hours, I guess.

How long does it take Kaguya to complete one orbit"

2 hours.

Is that not enough time to see some change? At the very least a diffusion of the shadow with the surrounding terrain as the sunlight fades? Would not the shadow edges lose there definition as it fades?

We never see a full orbit, as we only see the day side of the Moon. As far as I understand it, I have never seen even half orbit, from pole to pole.

The more I watch those Japanese moon images, the more phony they look.

Maybe because that's what you want to see?

At the very least they have been manipulated. There is no possible way that is a HD live version

They were not supposed to be live, they were captured and sent to Earth, like the photos. As NHK is the copyright owner I suppose they were publish after (at least) being seen by them.

[Sinny]

Is this topic still a work in progress? I'm fascinated.  I want to learn more about the portals.