Ian Lungold and the Mayan Calendar

[Amaterasu]

I am curious what People think of the info Ian Lungold offers.  It's quite interesting...

[Ellirium113]

I found his ideas intriguing but if his theory on the calender measuring the flow of creation to be nonsense or we would be having exponential leaps and bounds of technology happening on a monthly basis. I'll forget about him after nothing happens on Dec 21.

[sky otter]

it's been awhile since i sat thur it all but i found him very interesting

would have to go back and listen to some of it to refresh

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/02/11/ian-lungold-secrets-of-the-mayan-calendar-unveiled-1of3/

[petrus4]

I first learned about Ian and his site, http://www.mayanmajix.com/ back in 2005.  It is one of my main sources for news; I have visited it probably at least once per two days ever since.

Ian's work ties in with Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero model, although as far as I know, it was developed independently.  Ian came up with a very interesting model of mapping known history with the steps of one of the Mayan pyramids.  He believed that December 21, 2012 was going to be a very important date.



This is Bashar's summary of the December 2012 event.  This mirrors the belief that I have had myself, about this event, for probably ten years now.  It is not an apocalypse in any negative sense; but it is, for the most part, a departure from what has been referred to as "consensus reality," as such.

[biggles]

I liked the Bashar vid Petrus; can't come quick enough for me.

[Amaterasu]

I found his ideas intriguing but if his theory on the calender measuring the flow of creation to be nonsense or we would be having exponential leaps and bounds of technology happening on a monthly basis. I'll forget about him after nothing happens on Dec 21.

And maybe We are...in black projects.  Maybe it's being kept from the peons, the slaves...

[Amaterasu]

This is Bashar's summary of the December 2012 event.  This mirrors the belief that I have had myself, about this event, for probably ten years now.  It is not an apocalypse in any negative sense; but it is, for the most part, a departure from what has been referred to as "consensus reality," as such.

"Apocalypse" means "unveiling," or "revealing," after all...  Not inherently negative.

[petrus4]

"Apocalypse" means "unveiling," or "revealing," after all...  Not inherently negative.

I know, Amy; but the common implication is usually negative, even if the real definition of the word is not.

[Pimander]

This is Bashar's summary of the December 2012 event.  This mirrors the belief that I have had myself, about this event, for probably ten years now.  It is not an apocalypse in any negative sense; but it is, for the most part, a departure from what has been referred to as "consensus reality," as such.

There is no event.  It is just a date on a calender.  If there is an event it will be stage managed.  That is how prophecy has been used it the past by those wishing to influence humanity.

"So it is written, so shall it be" - Ramses II (Yul Brynner - The Ten Commandments)



The people who will wake up the next day and say there is a new consensus already believe what they will then.

The actual astronomical stuff that has been promulgated is complete and utter nonsense, as I have shown elsewhere.

I remember reading the Plaiadian Connection back in the day.  I believed it at the time.  I learned astronomy and now know it is nonsense.

People from time immemorial have always believed that their time was a special one.  People have dreamed of apocalypse even in our lifetimes.  Remember the millennium when Hancock and co tried to organise an event at the great pyramid?

It is a method of control.  you stir up an apocalyptic anticipation, stage manage an event and people will believe what you want them to.  It's how religions and belief systems can be created.  That is what the Edgar Cayce/Robert Bauvals/Graham Hancocks were trying to tap into.  That is what is going on with "Galactic Command", "Ashtar Command" and The Nine and so on.

Remember, I said this and take another look at my thread about mind control.  I know what I am talking about.

[Primus58]

There is no event.  It is just a date on a calender.

A few years ago, I made a tee shirt, all black with bold white letters on the front, it read:

12-22-2012 DAY OF LAUGHTER

[petrus4]

There is no event.  It is just a date on a calender.  If there is an event it will be stage managed.  That is how prophecy has been used it the past by those wishing to influence humanity.

Maybe I should put it another way.  I've noticed for at least the last decade or so, as I'm sure you have yourself, Pimander, that we've been building towards something.  If you're going to ask me whether or not said "something," will definitely occur in December, I'd honestly say that it is unlikely.

Things have been changing.  I remember one day in 2008, while meditating, that I could not believe how much deeper I was able to go at that point in time, after only a few minutes, compared to previous years; and I've been meditating on and off since my late teens.  At the same time, if you haven't been able to see the literally unprecedented levels of social and environmental turbulence that have occurred in the last twelve years, then I can only assume that you've been living underground.

The point is, that there's something unusual about the current time; and although I know a lot of it is staged, I think it's a stretch to assume that it all is.  I don't think I'm being too much of a New Age moonbat to make that statement.  As a date, 21/12/12 or 13.0.0.0 aren't necessarily definite times when something identifiable is going to happen; I'd look at it more as being the midpoint, or perhaps not even that, during a particular trend of weird stuff that is going on.  2007 was a busy year for me, too; and odd stuff happened last November, so no, it's definitely not just this year.

It's interesting that you mention the Egyptians here, Pimander, because over the last several months, the main thing I've devoted myself to learning about, has been some elements of Egyptian sacred science; around the edges at least.  Being able to use Minecraft as a testbed environment for some of these principles, allowed me to work out that 9/11 is a numerologically, and geometrically significant number combination. 

Learning about, and to a small extent experimenting with the system of Egyptian binary mathematics, I started realising some things which had never occurred to me earlier.  More than anything else, mathematics to me is a way of inserting reference points into what might otherwise be an entirely empty space.  Maths is a mapping system; or perhaps more to the point, maths is actually a particular terrain itself. 

What led me to this, was the realisation that certain numbers serve as intersection points.  If you can learn what a given set of intersection points are, (in terms of particular numbers which can be mathematically expressed or evaluated in an unusually high number of different ways) then you can use those like waypoints or rungs on a ladder, to climb up or down to whatever other number you want or need.

1     8
2     16
4     32
8     64
16   128
32   256
64   512

If you need to get to 768, add the last two together, and by doing that in both columns, that tells you that 96 x 8 = 768.

The minor example which I can mainly remember discovering, was 72.  I thought 72 was significant for two reasons.  The first was that there were at least two ways of reaching it, via the times table that I knew; 6 x 12, and 9 x 8.  The other significant thing was that 72 itself is a number which contains both an odd and even digit, and one of the multiplication sums that add up to it (9 x contain both an odd and an even number as well. 

The reason why this is significant, is because experimenting with the Egyptian system, showed me that whole numbers are more or less difficult to reach, based on two factors.

a}  The divisor number being used; whether it is odd or even.
b}  The trailing digit in a two or more digit long number.

So if you're evaluating odd numbers as one example, it's possibly going to be easier to get whole numbers, if your divisor is also odd.

Did you never wonder why the psychopaths chose 9/11 as the particular date, and why that matches the emergency phone number in the US?  Numbers have power; I would expect you to know this.  So even if we can say that a particular day is just a date on a calendar, the point is that markers are, in themselves, what numbers actually are.  If you take a completely blank space, and arbitrarily declare that a certain point in said space corresponds with a given number, then literally the only substance or fabric that marker will have, is the information of the number itself.

So what does 12/21/12 mean numerologically?  What does 13.0.0.0 mean numerologically?  We've just arbitrarily stuck them there, at that particular point, you might say.  So, ironically, in that sense, you're actually absolutely correct.  Whatever happens, if anything does, in December, will be the result of the energetic significance that point has, due to the numbers that we have arbitrarily assigned to that point.

That is what is going on with "Galactic Command", "Ashtar Command" and The Nine and so on.

Ashtar is absolute BS.  No arguments with you there, whatsoever.

[zorgon]

It is a method of control.  you stir up an apocalyptic anticipation, stage manage an event and people will believe what you want them to.  It's how religions and belief systems can be created.  That is what the Edgar Cayce/Robert Bauvals/Graham Hancocks were trying to tap into.  That is what is going on with "Galactic Command", "Ashtar Command" and The Nine and so on.

It's really very simple actually...

It is a question of mind over matter... The premise being if enough people believe something it will manifest

Hitler did it... he convinced millions his path was right, The RC Church did it, Islam did it.

You convince or force enough people to think your way, you can then channel that collective energy to achieve a goal.

Amy and Petrus believe that... trying to convince enough people to reach their perceived tipping point

That is how cults work too...

Fortunately human will is not currently powerful enough nor focused enough to really manifest Nibiru

Evil and Good are equal in power, but the very nature of evil is self destructive tending to achieve chaos while good is creative tending towards order.

So for every 100 people that are shouting doom and gloom there are more quietly keeping the order

Human will and free though are getting stronger... hence the current turmoil in the world as the two forces oppose each other more openly

I have saved some really good spirits for this Yule celebration... and I plan to start 2013 of with a bang   Only not too loud as I will likely have a hangover

[zorgon]

So what does 12/21/12 mean numerologically?

12-21-2012 --->11 which is the first of three master numbers in numerology

But the Maynas made no predictions of doom for that day

What does 13.0.0.0 mean numerologically?  We've just arbitrarily stuck them there, at that particular point, you might say. 

Well that sequence would be 4 

Dates beyond b'ak'tun 13

A Stele 1 at Coba gives a date of 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, or twenty units above the b'ak'tun, placing it either 4.134105 × 1028 (41 octillion) years in the future, or an equal distance in the past. This date is 3 quintillion times the age of the universe as determined by cosmologists.

Ashtar is absolute BS.  No arguments with you there, whatsoever.

Really? I channel his Sister in my creams

[thorfourwinds]

Now, THAT was Freudian...   

[sky otter]

 


I have saved some really good spirits for this Yule celebration

anyone we would know?