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Giant Cross Seen In Curiosity Image

Started by mikeybandb, November 03, 2012, 12:09:56 AM

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rdunk

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 04, 2012, 02:56:35 AM

Why Oh Why ?    ::)

Probably has some remote relationship to "common sense", as well as the facts of all known science and physics pretty much dictates that objects are only moved by "applied force" - ie, for every action there is an opposite reaction. Of course in the world of make believe, we can move objects pretty much anyway we want to, including just thinking a thing, and the thing happens.  ;)

Stargates and wormholes would certainly be nice features for exploring whatever there is "out there" to explore. But thus far, those features are still in the realm of make believe, and wishful thinking, as there is no "reality" of their existence (on Earth). However, the non-reality of them does make for good and interesting conversation here at the forum!

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: rdunk on November 04, 2012, 05:20:28 AM
Probably has some remote relationship to "common sense", as well as the facts of all known science and physics pretty much dictates that objects are only moved by "applied force" - ie, for every action there is an opposite reaction. Of course in the world of make believe, we can move objects pretty much anyway we want to, including just thinking a thing, and the thing happens.  ;)

Stargates and wormholes would certainly be nice features for exploring whatever there is "out there" to explore. But thus far, those features are still in the realm of make believe, and wishful thinking, as there is no "reality" of their existence (on Earth). However, the non-reality of them does make for good and interesting conversation here at the forum!

Perhaps there is Another Way other than what you chosen to mention above ?

The Matrix Traveller

Anyway back on Topic again..... A very interesting find.
I wonder if we will get a closer view or other photos showing this Cross ?

Maybe a "Monolith" ? Or perhaps something else.

rdunk

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 04, 2012, 05:49:12 AM
Anyway back on Topic again..... A very interesting find.
I wonder if we will get a closer view or other photos showing this Cross ?

Maybe a "Monolith" ? Or perhaps something else.

Matrix, I am still pretty amazed that someone even found this, because at the distance it is from the camera, it just does not stand out like a sore thumb. Really, one cannot see it at all, until considerable magnification of the photo, and even then, it still is not very noticeable. Of course, if you and I were in charge of the "mission", I think we might direct that the Rover run on over there and get a really good look for us, doncha think?!!

It could very well be nothing, but...........whatever it is has a considerable look of intelligent design. At humpteen million miles away, on another planet, one would think this anomaly would raise the bar enough for NASA to want to take another look, a "close look"!!  :P

The Matrix Traveller

QuoteProbably has some remote relationship to "common sense", as well as the facts of all known science and physics pretty much dictates that objects are only moved by "applied force" - ie, for every action there is an opposite reaction.


The Human species are Like babies in this Universe, they still can't traverse their own Galaxy
from one side to the other yet.

Fact... this is due to Ignorance, can't be denied !

So we have a huge amount to discover, before we get over being grounded.    :D

Then again, Some might know what this "Cross" actually is, which may or may not explain why
it is not seen in later photos.

We can only Guess...   :D


In NZ there is a "Transmission Antenna" at Tangimoana which is in the form of a cross.





But as I said, those with "Technologies" millions of years ahead of Primates on the Earth,
would not use primitive tech. like those on Earth using RF.

Our "Transport Systems" and where we are at in this Universe, speaks for itself.

If we gauge what we think we know, against what we don't know, is embarrassing
to say the least, but the Human species has to START somewhere I guess.

Like at the "Beginning"..   :D

But what we experience is Intended to get us asking Questions....  :D

Shasta56

I looked at the pictures.  It was there.  Now it isn't.  Don't know.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

spacemaverick

Okay, maybe I'm dense and don't intend to be smart aleck but I am just curious about something.  We have a picture of the rover.  What or who is taking the picture?  There is no extension arm coming from the rover with a camera on the end of it.  So who or what is taking the picture of the rover.  Everyone is focused on the cross....just sayin
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

ArMaP

Quote from: Shasta56 on November 04, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
I looked at the pictures.  It was there.  Now it isn't.  Don't know.
Was it in the individual image or in the panorama?

The Seeker

In the third picture in the op when I enlarged the inset box the outlines look very like a dish, not the enlarged inset next to it...http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/capture_001_02112012_164604.png

@matrix, consider we poor monkey people as a rule are stuck within the constraints of the box we've been placed within and the "rules" we have been taught to follow as to how the universe operates...

please don't get too aggravated at us, for those here are more likely to seek what is outside the box rather than bleating like sheep repeating the standard drivel...


@spacemaverick, i also am curious as to how the panorama was taken without the arm being shown in the pic...


seeker
Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
Trolls are crunchy and good with ketchup...
Seekers Domain

The Matrix Traveller


Quote from: ArMaP on November 04, 2012, 05:11:06 PM
QuoteI looked at the pictures.  It was there.  Now it isn't.  Don't know.

Was it in the individual image or in the panorama?

Good Point...

Perhaps it is Not about What it is, but rather Why it is seen, then Not seen.

If we ask the right "Questions" we get the Right "Answers".

And if we ask the Wrong "Questions" we get the Wrong "Answers".

So the "Question" is the Key and the "Answers" shall come if pursued..

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: the seeker on November 04, 2012, 07:03:35 PM
In the third picture in the op when I enlarged the inset box the outlines look very like a dish, not the enlarged inset next to it...http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/capture_001_02112012_164604.png

@matrix, consider we poor monkey people as a rule are stuck within the constraints of the box we've been placed within and the "rules" we have been taught to follow as to how the universe operates...

please don't get too aggravated at us, for those here are more likely to seek what is outside the box rather than bleating like sheep repeating the standard drivel...


@spacemaverick, i also am curious as to how the panorama was taken without the arm being shown in the pic...


seeker

Quoteplease don't get too aggravated at us,

NOT the Case !

ArMaP

Quote from: spacemaverick on November 04, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
Okay, maybe I'm dense and don't intend to be smart aleck but I am just curious about something.  We have a picture of the rover.  What or who is taking the picture?  There is no extension arm coming from the rover with a camera on the end of it.  So who or what is taking the picture of the rover.  Everyone is focused on the cross....just sayin
It's a very good question. :)

The trick of making panoramas is to get photos that overlap each other, so we (or the software used for making panoramas) can get references when joining them and to remove things that appear out of place in the finished panorama, like the tripod where the camera was (I had to remove a tripod more than once).

In this case, what was removed was the arm that has at it's end the camera (besides other instruments) that took the photos. In the image below you can see what was removed.


The Matrix Traveller

Hi ArMaP,

You could be onto it !

So are you saying, the "Cross" could be the result of Software, i.e involving 4 of the sub frames
not joining correctly, leaving narrow gaps forming the "Cross" ?

simon_alex0327

Why would things be missing from the original picture? My first thought when I saw this first was... "who took the picture" I still dont understand??
Also, could the "cross" be a registration mark or crosshair between images before pasting them together??
I did google "nasa crosshairs", but all the images I quickly looked at showed the crosshairs to be black on all the pictures I viewed.
I guess its somewhat like the pictures of Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon, who was taking these?? I can live with the thought of when the module took off and a remote camera being used... but this has always baffled me also.
Good old NASA!!  :P

ArMaP

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 04, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
So are you saying, the "Cross" could be the result of Software, i.e involving 4 of the sub frames
not joining correctly, leaving narrow gaps forming the "Cross" ?
I'm not saying it, but if the "cross" only appeared on the panorama then it's most like a side effect of the making of the panorama.