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Giant Cross Seen In Curiosity Image

Started by mikeybandb, November 03, 2012, 12:09:56 AM

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mikeybandb

On Sol 84 (Oct. 31, 2012), NASA's Curiosity rover used the Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) to capture this set of 55 high-resolution images, which were stitched together to create this full-color self-portrat.





The Image above is a copy of the original posted on NASA's site.

Link to my copy of original image:  http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/?action=view&current=703574main-MSL-self-portrait-pia16239-20121101-full_uncensored.jpg





Now when you click the link to the pic, the cross like object has been removed.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/703574main_MSL%20self-portrait%20pia16239%2020121101_full.jpg







rdunk

Mikeybandb, someone has a great eye to find this cross. Did you find this? Wow! It is a bit strange that it was there, in the pic, and now it is not. Obviously, must be a very simple scientific reason, that a cross is/was not really there!  ??? Probably just another weather balloon - oops, this is supposed to be Mars, not Earth!! 

With what is visible of the cross, the symmetrics seem to be right, with the horizontal member being evenly divided side to side. Maybe won't be much discussion on this, as it just is not acceptable logic for this to be here, in the photo. Take it out of the photo, don't discuss it, and this "anomaly" might just go away! Whether a crucifixion type cross, or a power pole type cross, it just gets in the way of conventional/acceptable thinking, for Mars!!

deuem

Hey Mikeyb, long time off line.

When I looked at the cross I thought wind mill.  It is very far away and still huge to the horizion. Any thoughts?

Deuem

Littleenki

It certainly doesnt appear tp be an anomaly of the pasting..its a clear feature. Has NASA placed antennas to amplify curiousity's signals or message sending capability perhaps?

Either way, the shape to me doent appear to be religion related as the base vertical has a different form to it. Something like the big Dubal skyscraper shaped like a sail, with a crossbar horizontally about 3/4 of the way up.

My guess is..if its not manmade or placed its an outpost of some sort, or an antenna from some other species left there as a repeater....

If manmade? Then an antenna for sending signals somewhere NASA hasnt spoke of, perhaps because the signals arent coming back to Earth. 8)

Or the Christians have already sent missionaries to Mars... :o

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rdunk

If you go to Mikey's original pic link, bring up the cross pic, and then go to negative screen, you will see a slightly more discernible view of the cross, as it will be black. About the same, just a little different view.

zorgon

Comment on Youtube says the cross is in the full size 32meg version from NASA



So far I can only find a 15 meg version. Also we need to find the original 55 images that created this picture (it is a mosaic)

Sounds like a job for ArMaP :D

QuoteHigh-Resolution Self-Portrait by Curiosity Rover Arm Camera

On Sol 84 (Oct. 31, 2012), NASA's Curiosity rover used the Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) to capture this set of 55 high-resolution images, which were stitched together to create this full-color self-portrait.

The mosaic shows the rover at "Rocknest," the spot in Gale Crater where the mission's first scoop sampling took place. Four scoop scars can be seen in the regolith in front of the rover.

The base of Gale Crater's 3-mile-high (5-kilometer) sedimentary mountain, Mount Sharp, rises on the right side of the frame. Mountains in the background to the left are the northern wall of Gale Crater. The Martian landscape appears inverted within the round, reflective ChemCam instrument at the top of the rover's mast.

Self-portraits like this one document the state of the rover and allow mission engineers to track changes over time, such as dust accumulation and wheel wear. Due to its location on the end of the robotic arm, only MAHLI (among the rover's 17 cameras) is able to image some parts of the craft, including the port-side wheels.

This high-resolution mosaic is a more detailed version of the low-resolution version created with thumbnail images, at: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/pia16238.html .

Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/Malin Space Science Systems

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/pia16239.html

rdunk

As I said early into this Curiosity mission, it will be interesting when we see at some point, what the real reason is, for NASA coming to the Gale crater area. May turn out to be nothing, or, it may turn our to be the way for a real revelation of "other life" on the planet, at some point - past and/or present ;)

ArMaP

I think this is the image where the cross should appear, but there's no cross in there.

Too bad you didn't look at the original images when you saw that cross.

watchZEITGEISTnow

Quote from: ArMaP on November 03, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
I think this is the image where the cross should appear, but there's no cross in there.

Too bad you didn't look at the original images when you saw that cross.

Why is the image upside down?

rdunk

Quote from: watchZEITGEISTnow on November 03, 2012, 11:54:54 PM
Why is the image upside down?

Because, that is a correct orientation for ArMaP - upside down on everything!!  :D

Just kidding of course.  ;)

ArMaP

Quote from: watchZEITGEISTnow on November 03, 2012, 11:54:54 PM
Why is the image upside down?
I suppose that's because that camera was not made to take photos of the area around the rover, it was made to take photos of the ground and of rock samples.

The Seeker

Looks to me more like a dish antennae than a normal cross; does the rover have a satellite uplink?


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rdunk

#13
Quote from: the seeker on November 04, 2012, 01:56:26 AM
Looks to me more like a dish antennae than a normal cross; does the rover have a satellite uplink?


seeker

Interesting! Doesn't look like any dish antenna that I have ever seen! Of course, if it is not in the later pics, then, either the cross anomaly is not there, or NASA doesn't want anyone to see it.

As I mentioned, look at it in "negative display screen", it won't look like a "dish"!

BTW - there does appear to be something on the vertical leg of that cross, as there is something that covers the view of the lower part of it, starting at the croas-angle.  ???

The Matrix Traveller

Why on earth do people on Earth, think that other Civilisations in this Universe,
would use such Primitive Communication Systems involving RF ? (Radio Frequency)

Or even Energy based Propulsion Systems for that matter?

Why Oh Why ?    ::)