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Giant Cross Seen In Curiosity Image

Started by mikeybandb, November 03, 2012, 12:09:56 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: simon_alex0327 on November 04, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
Why would things be missing from the original picture?
If by "original picture" you are talking about the picture showing the whole rover, then that's because that's not the original picture, that's a panorama made with several (I think it was 55) photos. Each one of those photos is an original, the resulting image is not.

QuoteMy first thought when I saw this first was... "who took the picture" I still dont understand??
The rover took the picture, with a camera on an arm that was extended to the front left of the rover (the point of view of the panorama).

In the animated GIF I posted you can see that there was a white arm at the bottom of the image that doesn't appear in the panorama (either removed by hand or by the panorama making software) but appears in one of the original photos that show that area and that I superimposed on (a reduced size version of ) the panorama.

QuoteAlso, could the "cross" be a registration mark or crosshair between images before pasting them together??
No, there's no need for that, the features in the images are enough to join them.

QuoteI guess its somewhat like the pictures of Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon, who was taking these??
Wasn't that a video? It was a camera on the MESA (Modularized Equipment Stowage Assembly) that was put in position by the pulling of a lever by Armstrong when he started to climb down the ladder.

I hope all of the above helps. :)

The Seeker

Quote from: rdunk on November 04, 2012, 05:20:28 AM


Stargates and wormholes would certainly be nice features for exploring whatever there is "out there" to explore. But thus far, those features are still in the realm of make believe, and wishful thinking, as there is no "reality" of their existence (on Earth). However, the non-reality of them does make for good and interesting conversation here at the forum!
Perhaps you need to read this thread posted by Zorgon; it is very enlightening concerning both Stargates, wormholes, and scientific proof of their existence...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1765.0

seeker
Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
Trolls are crunchy and good with ketchup...
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Shasta56

I saw the cross in the picture posted on phootobucket.  I'm probably the last person anyone should ask about photo techniques.  Seriously.  I'm a cat.  I don't even have opposable thumbs.

Shasta
Daughter of Sekhmet

simon_alex0327

Quote from: ArMaP on November 05, 2012, 01:33:47 AM
In the animated GIF I posted you can see that there was a white arm at the bottom of the image that doesn't appear in the panorama (either removed by hand or by the panorama making software) but appears in one of the original photos that show that area and that I superimposed on (a reduced size version of ) the panorama.

I still dont understand why this was removed. The final picture is misleading for anyone viewing it and seeing an image that looks like it was photographed from behind by an unknown source.
Quote from: ArMaP on November 05, 2012, 01:33:47 AM
either removed by hand or by the panorama making software
So, we now have proof NASA doctors their images. I guess the pyramids, hi-rise buildings and aliens inspecting our marvelous technology have also been removed by hand or software???
Who can we trust???  :-*

The Matrix Traveller

Just about anything can be done with Photos, so really in todays world, Photos are no longer
regarded or intended as proof.

In this case they are only useful to examine, whether or not they are authentic,
can only be taken on "Trust".

So it depends on whether you trust the NASA or Not !   :D

Only those in the NASA and "LIFE" will know if they are "Authentic" or Not...   :D

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on November 05, 2012, 01:33:47 AM
It was a camera on the MESA (Modularized Equipment Stowage Assembly) that was put in position by the pulling of a lever by Armstrong when he started to climb down the ladder.
What, on the Moon?  :o

zorgon

There is no moon... its just a hologram :P

Littleenki

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spacemaverick

From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

zorgon

#39
Simple really  Its a mosaic of 55 pictures... they simply overlaid pieces of it to get the desired effect of a self portrait. The arm is not shown because they left those portions out in the overlay.

This is not one picture, but a created work using 55 images

In other words, NASA techs manipulated an image ...again :P  thus any anomaly in this composite photo would likely be a result of that stitching :D

Funny no one commented on the fact that it's only one back ground :D

zorgon

More NASA photography manipulation...

Spirit in "Columbia Hills"



Spirit on Flank of "Husband Hill"



Spirit Silhouetted on "Jibsheet"



TRUST NASA... they NEVER make things up :P

spacemaverick

I don't think I have ever trusted NASA since I started studying their pictures and had you all that was on OMF enlighten me as to their manipulation.  Thanks for reminding me Zorgon!  Getting older, I have CRS sometimes.  (Can't Remember ....) lol
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Somamech

Quote from: the seeker on November 05, 2012, 02:13:45 AM
Perhaps you need to read this thread posted by Zorgon; it is very enlightening concerning both Stargates, wormholes, and scientific proof of their existence...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1765.0

seeker

That's a really good place for a religious man to start reading.... and thanks for posting that Seeky !   8)


The Matrix Traveller



Looks like some remote areas in the South Island of NZ...   :D

I guess similar areas may exist in Ausie ? Am I right Soma ?

ArMaP

Quote from: simon_alex0327 on November 05, 2012, 03:02:30 AM
I still dont understand why this was removed.
Someone probably thought it would look better without part of the arm in the photo.

QuoteThe final picture is misleading for anyone viewing it and seeing an image that looks like it was photographed from behind by an unknown source.
Most panoramas (regardless of what they show) based on a central point of view are that way, like those I did from which I had to remove the trypod.

QuoteSo, we now have proof NASA doctors their images.
A panorama is, by definition, an artificial image.

QuoteI guess the pyramids, hi-rise buildings and aliens inspecting our marvelous technology have also been removed by hand or software???
If they were (which I doubt) then I guess it was done by hand, as that type of work would be hard to be done perfectly by software.

QuoteWho can we trust???  :-*
Me? ;D