Giant Cross Seen In Curiosity Image

[mikeybandb]

Hey Mikeyb, long time off line.

When I looked at the cross I thought wind mill.  It is very far away and still huge to the horizion. Any thoughts?

Deuem

Indeed it has been a long time, my Friend.  My first thoughts were of a Power Pole,Bldg/Tower,Antenna.  Also if real, it must be ? miles high & wide.

[ArMaP]

As I have NOT been a researcher in this area.

So please inform us where these "Images" are, or can be found in the NASA. 

I don't see myself as a researcher (although, by being a member of the Pegasus Research Consortium forum, maybe I should ), but the images I consider closer to the original, raw images are the ones on the Planetary Data System (PDS). The problem with it is that photos from the several missions are only sent there after some time (usually some six months, they usually publish a schedule of the planed PDS releases). If the Curiosity mission is like the Opportunity/Spirit missions, they get the images, convert them to a web friendly format (JPEG) and then publish them, so while the photos available here are close to the originals they do not have the same quality as they were just published for publishing sake.

(I haven't followed the technical part of Curiosity's mission, so I don't really know if they are publishing photos in another site or when they intend to send them to the PDS)

Dismissing suspicion etc, I am fascinated in the exploration of Mars and just want to see
what Mars looks like, in plain old human terms, rather than an Artists view or enhanced production.

I think that the Curiosity photos from the link I posted above show the closest to what we would see in Mars

Perhaps these enhanced graphics are of value to some, other than "Entertainment"
but I would just like to see the real deal before any Graphics manipulation.

Those would be hard to find, as they are not originally in a human-understandable format, they are just digital data sent back to Earth.

Its Not that I am suspicious its just that I enjoy seeing what a landscape actually is
rather that what we would expect it to be.

I think that the L4+L5+L6 photos from the Mars Rovers are very closed to what we would see.
Something like this one.

I never enhance photos, I take of places I have visited, esp. in other Countries, I send
back to family, because I like to show/capture the real deal in my photos.   

You have an advantage there, you were looking at the scene that was photographed, so you have a mental "conversion table" that makes the adjustments to allow you to see things exactly like you saw them. As far as I know you haven't been to Mars.

[ArMaP]

A lot of the raw data from NASA is in forms that most internet users cannot easily access on their computer. One example is .cub files which are generally 1 Gb or more in size and require a Linus based system and a program like Sandia Labs Cubit or the new ISIS from USGS

.cub files are usually already processed, that's why they are so big. Those Clementine files, for example, had five (if I'm not mistaken) different filters and the images were panoramas made with hundreds of the original, 288 × 384 pixel images from the UV/Vis camera.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Sigh.... but of what use is all that if no one even looks?

Thank you Z...  I will definitely take a look when I get a spare moment...   

[zorgon]

The problem with it is that photos from the several missions are only sent there after some time (usually some six months, they usually publish a schedule of the planed PDS releases).

AH! I see... so that gives them 6 months to make sure anything 'incriminating' is removed from the images before releasing them

[simon_alex0327]

AH! I see... so that gives them 6 months to make sure anything 'incriminating' is removed from the images before releasing them

Couple that with the fact that they either remove things by hand or by the panorama making software.

[ArMaP]

AH! I see... so that gives them 6 months to make sure anything 'incriminating' is removed from the images before releasing them

Then how do we get photos from the previous day?

The photos published in the PDS are not the only photos published.

[ArMaP]

Couple that with the fact that they either remove things by hand or by the panorama making software.

Obviously, only in panoramas, because that's how panoramas are made.

[zorgon]

Then how do we get photos from the previous day?

Stock footage from previous missions. I mean after all how do we know when they were taken> One Martian rock looks about the same as any other Martian rock

I mean heck, they could even be from the Atacama Desert for all we know

or somewhere in Nevada

[The Matrix Traveller]

Looks like a beautiful Day on earth in that Photo Z, going by that BLUE Sky... 

Didn't know the Sky was BLUE on Mars...   

[ArMaP]

Stock footage from previous missions. I mean after all how do we know when they were taken> One Martian rock looks about the same as any other Martian rock

If it's stock footage from previous missions how do they look different from the previous missions' photos?

I mean heck, they could even be from the Atacama Desert for all we know

or somewhere in Nevada

Only for those that cannot tell the difference between the different types of erosion, things on Mars are really different.

[ArMaP]

Didn't know the Sky was BLUE on Mars...   

It depends on what photos you look at.

[Pimander]

Why do people complain that some files require Linux?  Linus is free, easy to install and does pretty much everything you need.  You can even have it running on a partition alongside Windows.  I only use Windows at the University and on one website that doesn't work in Firefox on Linux only Internet Explorer on Windows- which pisses me off!  Next time I do some maintenance I think I am going to kiss Windows goodbye on this PC.

ISIS is free too.

[zorgon]

Didn't know the Sky was BLUE on Mars...   

After 6 years of color debate at ATS that is ONE thing ArMaP and I agree upon   And the old Viking pictures also agree

I do notice that NASA has finally given up tinting all the mars images dark red... even if they did pick the most boring see nothing place on mars to land that thing

[The Matrix Traveller]

So I take it then that the sky shown in the above Photo is "Tinted", yes ?

Why "Tinted" this Color ?

The sky appears the same as this in NZ.   

From the Horizon, (Land or Sea) Emerald changing to dark Blue in the "Zenith".