'Sirius' Documentary Reveals DNA Test Results On Ata, The '6-Inch Alien'

[deuem]

If I remember right, in the movie one of the scientist said he sent 4 samples to 3 labs. They did not mention the lab names. One sample of the alien, one of his blood and 2 of water. There was another doctor that refused to be on film but did prepare the final report. I would have to watch it again and take notes. They said it was not a monkey or any member of the monkey familly. Only said half human. I was dissapointed that we did not get a better answer. Don't forget it only had 10 ribs.  Everything I wrote is what they said and not me saying this.  Deuem

[Anthra]

1ww,

That's the prble; we don't know if Greer is actually using DNA, nor, if he is, that it is "jr's" DNA. That is a point where we have to trust him, or refuse everything he says. The fact that it takes so long, is another bad point.

I'm not sure if you, or many of the others are aware of my history. But, I have gone down that sae road as Greer. He is doomed to fail, and I can't help but think that He knew that going in, just like I did. But, I think my expirences in this area has given me some insights that may be useful.

For instance, I think we "can" begin to "tell" something about this creature's DNA.  My expirence has shown me that ET DNA may be very Terrestrial in nature, thus the wee beast should have recognizable DNA. In that, genetic sequences that belong to several species of Terrestrial animal, should also be present in the little ET. Many of the "markers", and other sapects of the creature's biology will be very much like Terrestrial animals.

None of these things takes longer thana few weeks to  determine. Unless ... Greer actually goes into the process of doing a full genome analysis. He hasn't by the way, regardless of what he might say. If he had he would have been touting that from the beginning, and what it cost (rather expensive).

I have to think, that because of the "way" Greer is going about all this, it is ONLY to make money.  I should be doing the same!

[Somamech]

Bill Chalker did the same in a book he published in regard's to Alien DNA !

Knock yourself out Freely on this link 

http://theozfiles.blogspot.com.au/

I Found a whole new complete way to jigger around with plants over the last two day's that changes cell structure through the use of colored light that has Baffled phd's in U-WA.  I find that way more interesting considering HUT (Holographic Universe Theory) than a few old hat's getting together around a campfire

[Somamech]

1ww,

That's the prble; we don't know if Greer is actually using DNA, nor, if he is, that it is "jr's" DNA. That is a point where we have to trust him, or refuse everything he says. The fact that it takes so long, is another bad point.

I'm not sure if you, or many of the others are aware of my history. But, I have gone down that sae road as Greer. He is doomed to fail, and I can't help but think that He knew that going in, just like I did. But, I think my expirences in this area has given me some insights that may be useful.

For instance, I think we "can" begin to "tell" something about this creature's DNA.  My expirence has shown me that ET DNA may be very Terrestrial in nature, thus the wee beast should have recognizable DNA. In that, genetic sequences that belong to several species of Terrestrial animal, should also be present in the little ET. Many of the "markers", and other sapects of the creature's biology will be very much like Terrestrial animals.

None of these things takes longer thana few weeks to  determine. Unless ... Greer actually goes into the process of doing a full genome analysis. He hasn't by the way, regardless of what he might say. If he had he would have been touting that from the beginning, and what it cost (rather expensive).

I have to think, that because of the "way" Greer is going about all this, it is ONLY to make money.  I should be doing the same!

My apologies for quoting your whole post Anthra, but yeah my thought is... that if someone, or something can be anylised than they MUST share the same or similiar DNA according to HUT theory to even be able to exist on this realm, which in this case is an operating table

My point being that if "someone" take's the form of flesh then ofc they will exhibit the same DNA in this program!

[VillageIdiot]

Oh, this is too silly. That thing is obviously a piece of cheap plastic. It's made of the same stuff they make those glow-in-the-dark skeletons of.

Pardon my grammar.  I'm wasted.  Had a tooth pulled.

[petrus4]

I'm currently watching Sirius.  I'm only about 25% of the way through, but so far, I'm not impressed.  At this point I've been shown Eisenhower's speech about the MIC, along with the usual footage of white lights and dots in the sky.  Said intro to a large extent felt like a retread of Thrive, more than anything else.

From there, we've moved on to footage from Greer's alien hunting trips, where I'm listening to a number of individuals talk about subjects which make them sound as though they could have been at Jonestown.

People here know that I'm an abductee, and so I really shouldn't be cynical; but this is just really boring, so far at least.  The problem is that there is just nothing here that I haven't seen before.  I can't actually see mainstream audiences being entertained by it, either.  I'm going to keep watching, but I'm not optimistic.

I get the feeling that this really reflects the state of the UFO scene in general at this point; and if that is the case, I think people really just need to give up, more than anything else.  At this point, we're not flogging a dead horse; we're flogging a carcass that has already been reduced literally to paste.  There is just nothing new.  Nothing at all.  It's the same thing, over and over and over again.  The same speeches, the same "top secret," documents, the same stock footage of lights and so on.

There's just nothing there any more.

[Pimander]

Many seem to want ot attack the ET DNA, saying it is "Human",

What ET DNA?

usually without knowing the real differences between Human DNA and other animals.

There is no difference if you compare animal DNA structure to human, the difference is only in the sequence.

The reality is that some other species (other than Human) can have "DNA" that is virtually identical to Humans. Take the Chimpanzee, DNA is something on the order of 98% identical to YOU. And yo think ET will be significantly different!

Most likely yes, unless it is linked to human in a mysterious way (e.g. created us from their DNA).  If a species evolved on another planet then it will be radically different in sequence.  Even species that evolved on Australasia in isolation from Africa have a greater difference than chimpanzee (which is the closest known relative to the human).

The data provide by Greer and others so far had been wholly insufficient. It should be considered almost criminal for Greer to make such statements and not provide the evidence. Also, this lack of real evidence is showing his real colors.

Agreed.  Unless real evidence is released and tissue samples shared with other labs VERY QUICKLY then this is bovine excreta.

Greer and his cronies have tried to pull the wool of y'alls eyes yet again. The comedyhere is that Greer, with all his medical education, doesn't know how to show this thing of his IS ET (he prolly could if he did it right), none of his friends do either.

Or it is not ET.

Worst though, is Y'all, don't know how to understand his evidence (fortunately, there is little evidence, so its hard to go wrong.)

If it was real DNA based evidence, I definitely would be able to understand it.

In my opinion, you will never get the kind of "proof" you want for ET. He (ET) could roll up on you , slap you in the face, and you still won't accept.

Not true.  We could easily "prove to an ET we are from Earth.  Presumable ET could do the same, particularly if ET is more advanced than us.  Sketchy stories are NOT PROOF.

[Pimander]

the people who oversee these "labs" you say you'd like to see carry out such research all have a definite agenda, and disclosure is NOT part of it.

In military labs and most government labs this is true.  However, there is no way they could keep a lid on something this big in any of the labs I have worked in.  Even on classified projects you could get a sample out or leak the data.  The main thing that stops that happening on sensitive programs is that the staff don't want dangerous information or material to fall into the wrong hands rather than security or pressure from superiors.

Don't forget, we don't want some crazies having deadly biological material or nuclear information.  Even "evil scientists" have a vested interest in there being so called civilisation.

[Pimander]

Oh, this is too silly. That thing is obviously a piece of cheap plastic. It's made of the same stuff they make those glow-in-the-dark skeletons of.

At this point, we're not flogging a dead horse; we're flogging a carcass that has already been reduced literally to paste.  There is just nothing new.  Nothing at all.  It's the same thing, over and over and over again.  The same speeches, the same "top secret," documents, the same stock footage of lights and so on.

Is this feeling that it is all just a joke engineered?  Is it worth giving that battered paste a few more smacks?

Maybe we are not looking at the data we already have in the correct way.  We could well have missed something.  Have the leading lights on the UFO scene taken us in the wrong direction?  I think so.

[Anthra]

There is no difference if you compare animal DNA structure to human, the difference is only in the sequence.
Most likely yes, unless it is linked to human in a mysterious way (e.g. created us from their DNA).  If a species evolved on another planet then it will be radically different in sequence.  Even species that evolved on Australasia in isolation from Africa have a greater difference than chimpanzee (which is the closest known relative to the human).
Agreed.  Unless real evidence is released and tissue samples shared with other labs VERY QUICKLY then this is bovine excreta.

So tell me; why should ET's DNA be so different from yours? Where ET lives isn't so different from Earth. His Star very much the same as yours. the age of ET world is about the same as Earth. So it would appear that perhaps conditions where ET is from could be very much like conditions Here on Earth. The ideas that ET's DNA sequences would be "radically different" has no foundation except in the mind of the fearful.

Or it is not ET.
If it was real DNA based evidence, I definitely would be able to understand it.
Not true.  We could easily "prove to an ET we are from Earth.  Presumable ET could do the same, particularly if ET is more advanced than us.  Sketchy stories are NOT PROOF.

Lol... I have serious doubts that any Terrestrial, regardless of education and expirence could tell IF DNA evidence was Terrestrial in origin or not. And it would be quite difficult for you to prove to anyone you were from Earth. And while it is possible to "prove" ET, it is difficult if everyone decides before viewing data.

No "Sketchy stories" do not prove a damn thing; do you know what a "Sketchy story" looks like? Not everythig is as it appears.

[Pimander]

So tell me; why should ET's DNA be so different from yours?

I just said the DNA could be the same.  The sequence would be different because it evolved to adapt to different conditions.  Even if it evolved a similar form it would have a different DNA sequence.  Sharks have adapted similar forms to dolphins but evolved in a different way (sharks from fish and dolphins from dog-like mammals).  Even though a dolphin is a lot like a shark, it has a DNA sequence closer to humans than sharks as we have a common evolutionary heritage.  If a being evolved on another planet it would be more different not more similar than a shark.  UNLESS SOMETHING MYSTERIOUS IS HAPPENING.

Where ET lives isn't so different from Earth.

How do you know this?

Is an His Star very much the same as yours. the age of ET world is about the same as Earth. So it would appear that perhaps conditions where ET is from could be very much like conditions Here on Earth. The ideas that ET's DNA sequences would be "radically different" has no foundation except in the mind of the fearful.

You are just speculating.  It is likely different because it evolved independently.

Lol... I have serious doubts that any Terrestrial, regardless of education and expirence could tell IF DNA evidence was Terrestrial in origin or not. And it would be quite difficult for you to prove to anyone you were from Earth. And while it is possible to "prove" ET, it is difficult if everyone decides before viewing data.

I could prove it if I visited them as I could produce evidence that something I carried had isotopes characteristic of Earth.  I could direct them  to listen to signals from Earth.  There are any number of things I could do.  Likewise they could do the same - but only if they were ET aliens.

No "Sketchy stories" do not prove a damn thing; do you know what a "Sketchy story" looks like? Not everythig is as it appears.

Correct, not everything is as it seems.


In terms of DNA data, I am able to look at why a person may claim that their DNA sample is ET.  I have the knowledge to evaluate their claims.  The strongest claim I can think of is a tissue sample that actually produced something that consistently appeared to be nonsense to scientists.  "Nonsense" seeming code would imply that the apparatus of replication and gene expression (the enzymes) reads different codes to ours.  So far all DNA based Earthly species studied have closely related reading codes.

[Anthra]

I just said the DNA could be the same.  The sequence would be different because it evolved to adapt to different conditions.  Even if it evolved a similar form it would have a different DNA sequence.  Sharks have adapted similar forms to dolphins but evolved in a different way (sharks from fish and dolphins from dog-like mammals).  Even though a dolphin is a lot like a shark, it has a DNA sequence closer to humans than sharks as we have a common evolutionary heritage.  If a being evolved on another planet it would be more different not more similar than a shark.  UNLESS SOMETHING MYSTERIOUS IS HAPPENING.

Yes the sequencing would be different, but, in what ways? The major differences between Humans and Chimps isn't so much the actual sequencing, but rather in the STR strings found within the various chromosomes. (and of course the whole chromosome 2 thing). If these are the differences you are thinking of then we will prolly agree, however, to think that ET has evolved into something truly unique is both silly and absolutely true. While it is true (mustbe) that there are "fantastical" creatures out there, it is also true that there are very ordinary, mundane, beings as well, so to think that ET "must" be very different is counter-productive.

How do you know this?

How do I know what conditios are like on other worlds?  I have eyes that can see, I can look at this world and know what conditions should be like around a similar star. Many of the stars within 50 ly of Earth are class "G", and most are over 4.5 Gyr old.

Earth's star "Sol" is a class "G2" star, some 4.6 Gyr old. Do you think the conditions around say Alpha Centauri are significantly different? Alpha Centauri(a) is a class "G1.5", about 6Gyr old. Very much like Sol, a bit older, not qite as bright. Or how about Alpha Centauri (b), it is the same age, "G" class, and about the same brightness.

You are just speculating.  It is likely different because it evolved independently.
I could prove it if I visited them as I could produce evidence that something I carried had isotopes characteristic of Earth.  I could direct them  to listen to signals from Earth.  There are any number of things I could do.  Likewise they could do the same - but only if they were ET aliens.
Correct, not everything is as it seems.

Less speculation than you might think. There are ways of divinig the unknown, from the known. Also, don't forget the wisdom of Hermese; "As above, so below".

In terms of DNA data, I am able to look at why a person may claim that their DNA sample is ET.  I have the knowledge to evaluate their claims.  The strongest claim I can think of is a tissue sample that actually produced something that consistently appeared to be nonsense to scientists.  "Nonsense" seeming code would imply that the apparatus of replication and gene expression (the enzymes) reads different codes to ours.  So far all DNA based Earthly species studied have closely related reading codes.

Do you now? Have the knowledge to evaluate claims? I should challange that! Based on just this paragraph, I'm going to state that neither you, nor, most any Terrestrial scientist has the ability to distiguish Terrestrial DNA from non-Terestrial DNA ... period!

Go here: http://anthra.wolfmagick.com there you will find a wee bit of DNA evidence. It will tell you that it is Human, it will not tell you it is from Earth! In fact, it will tell you that it is not related to any terrestrial. A question I would have is; "can you see how it is not Terrestrial?" (I bet no).

[Pimander]

Do you now?

Yes.

Have the knowledge to evaluate claims? I should challange that! Based on just this paragraph, I'm going to state that neither you, nor, most any Terrestrial scientist has the ability to distiguish Terrestrial DNA from non-Terestrial DNA ... period!

Challenge it then.  Why do you state that based on what I say?

[rdunk]

"Why do you state that based on what I say"?

Pi, certainly, you were not asking me that question, but...........on these forums there is most often not much personal information shared. And, I believe I have noticed you at times being careful not to share specifically, for reason. That being, for all of us, this probably causes "the assumption" for a lot of opinion being shared, when in fact member statements can be based upon knowledge, learning, and experience.

So, that said, with what very little I know about seeing you keep some things close, I have absolutely no question about your statements. I am confident that you know what you are talking about in the DNA area!

Thanks for the "informed" (IMO) comments!

[Anthra]

Yes.
Challenge it then.  Why do you state that based on what I say?

Because you imply that you can tell "just by looking", and unless you know what to look for and where, you simply can't. Further, the indicators as to whether the DNA in question is Terrestrial or not does not have to be in the biology or chemistry. It can be in the actual data itself, and quite well hidden in plain sight.

I have to presume that you are like me in this regard; knowledgeable in some aspects of this question, but, not in all.