'Sirius' Documentary Reveals DNA Test Results On Ata, The '6-Inch Alien'

[zorgon]

so i believe there are species that are alien to us humanoids but i think they live in the sea.and in space.in the bible it said gods throne was in the abyss and in heaven.so maybe thats where they hide.if i were an alien i would make me a pure water/ice pyramid and sink it to the bottom of the ocean.

I BELIEVE in FAERIES

Photographs show the remains of a fairy found in Derbyshire, England.



Fairy Body Found In Sunway



Tutorial: Mummified Fairy



http://www.shadowmanor.com/blog/?page_id=4666

[petrus4]

This is absolute nonsense.  Most scientists would like a Nobel Prize and you get them for radical new ideas.  What most conspiracy theorists perceive as wanting nothing to do with "paradigm-breaking" findings is scientific rigour.

It's rigour if they don't want to accept a radical idea, after trying and legitimately failing to experimentally reproduce or validate said idea.  Anything else is narrow mindedness.  The false, "we don't have time to experimentally validate or disprove every outlandish or wacky claim," rationale of CSICOP is pseudoskepticism.

There are always a large number of career scientists holding professorships who have a vested interest in the status quo.  On the other hand the majority of scientists career prospects would be enhanced by radical new findings but only if they can be supported by other work.  That other work is slow to come not because of the majority of scientists would not welcome it at all but because the people holding the purse strings are the most conservative within science - partly due to their own career protecting bias and other well documented problems.

This I will accept.

It is the soft or pseudo sciences like archaeology where things are slowest to change.

The problem with archaeology, paleontology etc is not so much that the sciences themselves are quackery, as that they are largely populated by quacks.  There is a difference.

More seriously, I've also read enough to believe that both of these suffer from very serious problems associated with self-perpetuating and enforced bias.  In both cases, there is already a large, established, and very deeply entrenched paradigm in existence, and said paradigm tends to be defended and enforced whenever something appears that may seem to challenge it. 

In terms of the reason behind why I think that is, George Orwell stated it more eloquently than I could.

"He who controls the past, controls the future.  He who controls the present, controls the past."

In other words, the mainstream paradigm in the case of both of the above-named sciences, is very largely the product of a massive conspiracy. 

I have always considered the debate between evolutionary theory and creationism, as a related example, to be completely irrelevant and futile; and the reason why, is because both models, are held and usually advocated by groups of individuals, who wish to control the minds of others.  The degree of validity or real truth contained in either paradigm, is thus again rendered largely irrelevant, because the truth of either of them, cannot be dissociated from the fact that their proponents, both have agendas of social control.

A semi-truth would be:  Paradigms shift are not due to the leaders in science accepting the new findings but to the fact that they will retire or die.

This is one of my favourite quotes from Max Planck, yes.

[robomont]

i love that last quote.
and zorgon im shocked .are those picks real or are you screwing with us.you sure stirred my pot.

[zorgon]

and zorgon im shocked .are those picks real or are you screwing with us.you sure stirred my pot.

Those are real pics... of real hoaxes and the 'how to' make your own mini mummy by the perps

The first one was sold at auction for £300  and made Wikipedia

The Dead fairy hoax was an April Fools' Day prank in 2007. Dan Baines, a sculptor and illusion designer, managed to sell his creation, the fake corpse of a fairy, on an internet auction for nearly £300

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_fairy_hoax

A few days before April 1, 2007, Dan Baines, a 31-year-old illusion designer for magicians from London, posted images on his website purporting to show the remains of a fairy. He claimed the mummified remains were discovered by a dog walker at Firestone Hill in Duffield, Derbyshire. The "corpse", as shown in the pictures, had intact ears, wings, hair, skin and teeth, and had, according to Baines, 'been examined by anthropologists and forensic experts who can confirm the body is genuine'. According to the website, X-rays of the 'fairy' showed that its body's structure was the same as that of a child. The bones, however, were described to be 'hollow like those of a bird, making them particularly light.'

In spite of the coming of April Fool's Day, the website received feedback from a large number of fairy believers, accumulating over 20,000 hits in one day. On April 1st, Baines appended a note to the website, thanking the readers for expressing their interest in his story and acknowledging that the fairy corpse was fake. He wrote: "Even if you believe in fairies, as I personally do, there will always have been an element of doubt in your mind that would suggest the remains are a hoax. However, the magic created by the possibility of the fairy being real is something you will remember for the rest of your life." Subsequently, Baines listed the mummified fairy on eBay and the model attracted nearly 40 bids. The highest at the close of the sale was made by a private art collector in the United States and the fairy was sold for £280.

Amazing what you can buy on Ebay these days

[robomont]

kove it.thankyou zorgon for the info.

[Anthra]

You know, it is so difficult to get full intentional meanings via a web post, but, for some reason I am taking this "BillyBob" accusation personal, if I am wrong, correct me please. But you have some really bad timing with your "Irrefutable" evidences or, you are a Greer supporter and can't handle the fact he is a milker of dry cows.

Thee was nothing "personal" there, more like speaking to everyone. I feel it is way past time for all yall to step up and take charge, for yall's, and Earth's benefit. Oh, and while I don't try to milk dry cows, I have been known to kick a horse to insure it's not sleeping

And this right here is the beginning's of the dog and Pony show of this thread, "Prove it Anthra!!!" or back off, Idle threats yield nothing, especially when trying to give logical explanation with nothing but rhetorical rebuttal due to insignificance of argument.

Did that! Unless you don't accept mathematics as a science.

[zorgon]

....the people who oversee these "labs" you say you'd like to see carry out such research all have a definite agenda, and disclosure is NOT part of it.

Gotcha!!  Thanks for making my point... So we have to take the word of some undisclosed 'lab' that they did the testing... a 'lab' that has an agenda to prove aliens are real so Greer et al can make money and bamboozle the believers

Let's get this conversation back to earth, or at least--let's keep it real. By the way, the ALIEN looks like Beavis from the cartoon "Beavis and Butthead," so--henceforth thusly it shall be referred to by moi...

Okay yeah  THAT sure is "keeping it real"



I like this one... from Gortex (and Karl's Ripley one )

I don't think speculation is necessary as the evidence is in the public domain and based on the actions of  Dr Greer .
From his now legendary $800 a peek Moth picture to his latest tiny Alien mummy claim which after some investigation I believe is one of these ... A Kappa mummy from the Japanese Edo period

In my view Dr Greer has two interests , Steven Greer and money .. Aliens and UFOs are just a way for him to promote one and amass the other .
Sorry my first post had to be a negative one 

I guess its time to merge the Sirius threads...

[zorgon]

Merging