Extraterrestrials: What Are They Waiting For?

[zorgon]

You can present proof right in front of a skeptic, who will ALWAYS default to dismissal, if not attempt to change the definition of what constitutes proof. Therefore, nothing is "provable" to those who revel in appearing correct--even in the face of evidence.

Well most of us here are not skeptics, but is in not the goal of a true researcher to seek out the truth that can be VERIFIED?  Hearsay may be good enough for some, but it doesn't cut it here. We require more than some one telling us they tested it.

Look at Nassim Haramein and those Mayan stagate alien stones that even got coverage on National Geographic?  Where did they come from? They don't resemble ANY mayan art forms. The dig sites they have said are some where in Mexico, no Equador, no Gautamala  and they are selling those stones for $75,000

You want to believe that stuff be my guest but I want to see the dig site... I want to see the location where they were found

Here we have Ammy referring you to the "Starchild" skull, and the fact that DNA results indicate the skull is not human, or is anomalous to science, and then the cadre of nay sayers who just have to be right to the point where evidence is dismissed due to pure prejudice. Enough horse carp!

Not it is not a FACT Even Amy says it is 'dubious' Just because the owner says it is a 'fact' does not make it a fact. The only 'carp' here is the people insisting something is 'fact' without the lab results to back it up

BTW crap is allowed here carp is Thor's word

I KNOW what I know, and from first hand encounters with several extraterrestrials I have in fact met. I won't be discussing the matter further on this forum because some, like Zorgon, have to be right in their preconceived notions, and you just can't tell some people anything; they don't LISTEN. Fine. Why open myself up to ridicule? I'll shut the hell up about my encounters rather than make the powers that be here uncomfortable. Don't ask me anything about it again--I'm done.

Seriously? 

[Edward]

Have You read the work in My section here?  I believe there IS a "fix" for the NEED for exchange (trade, barter, money, etc.) to survive - and to survive richly:

Analysis: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=657.0
PLAN: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.0
Governance: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2103.0

I look forward to Your thoughts.

You really put a lot of words into the many ideas and thoughts I have had and conceptualized them into a Plan and understanding of the direction which we(the human race) needs to move towards and away from the current paradigm we all live in. 

As for right  now I believe we are getting close to that 10% percent and we must continue to be vigiliant in our efforts to bring forth new ideas, thoughts and ways of perceiving, doing and implementing this new world we are rapidly creating.  To not only the benefit our ourselves but every living being on this planet and the planet itself. 


Edward

[zorgon]

The problem is, no matter what the DNA sequencing results are, it is just a sequence.  We don't have an alien DNA sequence characterised to compare it to or even evidence that non-Earth life is DNA based.  It is an assumption that water based life would likely have something resembling DNA.

Unless "they" have some samples hidden away....

Granted... but where are the tests on the implants that Dr Lier removed? Where are the tests on the metal fragments from many supposed crash sites that were investigated and found by non government independant UFO researchers? Where are the ground pearcing radar results that are claimed to prove there are tunnels at DULCE?

Phil Schnieder  showed us a piece of Corbomite  I think he said it was element 142  (will have to look that up)  So where is this supper dense corbomite that he held up on that video? And why did no one at that conference ask to examine it and just take his word for it?

Bob says he and John buried a piece of ununpentium... lets dig that up
Cherry Hinkle says there is a box buried at Dulce  well seems no one can find it and she won't say where it is till she is on her death bed

And DNA results, if claimed 'alien' would at least show odd readings compared to what we currently call 'normal'

[Edward]

You can present proof right in front of a skeptic, who will ALWAYS default to dismissal, if not attempt to change the definition of what constitutes proof. Therefore, nothing is "provable" to those who revel in appearing correct--even in the face of evidence.

Here we have Ammy referring you to the "Starchild" skull, and the fact that DNA results indicate the skull is not human, or is anomalous to science, and then the cadre of nay sayers who just have to be right to the point where evidence is dismissed due to pure prejudice. Enough horse carp!

I KNOW what I know, and from first hand encounters with several extraterrestrials I have in fact met. I won't be discussing the matter further on this forum because some, like Zorgon, have to be right in their preconceived notions, and you just can't tell some people anything; they don't LISTEN. Fine. Why open myself up to ridicule? I'll shut the hell up about my encounters rather than make the powers that be here uncomfortable. Don't ask me anything about it again--I'm done.

As Ammy says when she doesn't feel like arguing...YOU'RE RIGHT.

Case closed.

Peace and Love
JD

If you  ever feel the need to share and talk about what you know and what just frustrates you or even confounds you.  It could be about anything.  I'm always here  and have an open ear. 


Edward

[The Matrix Traveller]

My guess is, that these Cone heads and other Skulls were the result of "Cross Breeding"...

I think it will be found there have been many different models of human forms,
but that does NOT mean one has Evolved from another.

We still have the Question re. ancient records, whether true or Not re. "Cross Breeding",
between the "Tree of A'DAM" and "Alien Species" or other "Species" from the same universe.

When One comes to understand what this World (earth) is really about, one can understand why,
No Solid Proof exists or remains....

It's The QUESTION that matters !

It's NOT about the "Human Species" nor "Aliens" or what have you,
it's about something else, entirely different than what is thought of, or imagined through/by
the "human Species...   

If this were NOT the case we would NOT Still have that QUESTION...   

[Pimander]

The fact is this.  I don't dismiss evidence out of hand.  If I didn't listen then how the hell could I give a detailed response?

Sorry, I am just not gullible enough for some peoples taste it seems.   

ETA:  I agree that there was cross breeding between types of human.  They are really breeds rather that separate species though strictly speaking.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Maybe they are non-existent ?

Why?  Perhaps one of 2 Reasons.

They never existed in the 1st Place
or
They now no longer exist.

Zorgon re.

Well WHERE ARE THE DANG LAB RESULTS?

I believe you to be Right....

But which of the 2 is it ?

1.    There NEVEVER have been Lab Results ?
or
2.    They NO LONGER Exist ?

[Pimander]

Granted... but where are the tests on the implants that Dr Lier removed?

They looked like a bit of meteorite or stone.

Where are the tests on the metal fragments from many supposed crash sites that were investigated and found by non government independant UFO researchers?

Military accident cover-ups mostly?

Where are the ground pearcing radar results that are claimed to prove there are tunnels at DULCE?

There was no alien base at Dulce.  That is disinformation if you ask me.

Phil Schnieder  showed us a piece of Corbomite  I think he said it was element 142  (will have to look that up)  So where is this supper dense corbomite that he held up on that video? And why did no one at that conference ask to examine it and just take his word for it?

Corbomite is a fictional material off star trek.

[Pimander]

Frustrating that the noise has been so useful to TPTB.  But, they are watching us.

[The Matrix Traveller]

But, they are watching us

If referring to those of NOT of human Origin ? ? ?

That I can guarantee.

Regarding proof...

Those on Earth are still asking the "QUESTION" so tactics are Working !

[1Worldwatcher]

As far as the ET's announcing they are here, I believe they have done that, many, many times. I have no doubt they have been here since the beginning of time for the 3rd Rock. And if one really extrapolates on the while "Alien's among us" theory, we have only a small percentage of what lays on the bottom of the Oceans all over the planet, but yet have more knowledge about the Planets and Satellites we currently have visited.

As for the Dr. Lier evidence, I found his claims amazing and profound. The fact that he had patience from different locations with the same RF emitting anomalies under the skin that could be seen drawn to the top of the muscle tissue using magnets and give off Radio frequencies capable and known to produce radio waves for communications should raise eyebrows of every human.

As for the debris that was witnessed falling from UFO/Craft, I have heard little too no more about the tests other than it was an "Abnormal" alloy not natural with in sciences understanding, this too deserves merit for discussion, or at least to hash it out to try and allocate where all these evidences may be.

Consequently, these unavailable tests and results can both support and debunk for their absence with in such discussions. I for one know Alien abductions have to be real, I also know from personal experience we have things flying in our Earths atmosphere that aren't of this planet, and the ones we do see that we can't define, eventually we are privy to find it too be Earth bound Oriented and then move on to the ones that truly matter for the topic of discussing such things as Alien life forms and their means of either not communicating or being covered up and communicating with only a select few.

I think Zorg has it right, we can't write these events off just yet, but as Pimander has stated, when the Hoaxer's are doing what they do, it makes it difficult too discern any of these events as being factual in the first place, no matter how much the witness or the event has merit, Sad really.

Either way, I , Too, would like to know these postulated questions brought up here, the evidence is somewhere, we aren't privy too know is the conundrum of it all. 

1WW

[zorgon]

They looked like a bit of meteorite or stone.

Well here are the only photos available on Dr Leir's Website AlienScapel
http://www.alienscalpel.com/









Gary Lowery, the abductee 2006

[The Matrix Traveller]

Either way, I , Too, would like to know these postulated questions brought up here, the evidence is somewhere, we aren't privy too know is the conundrum of it all. 

Maybe you are right WW1   

[1Worldwatcher]

Well here are the only photos available on Dr Leir's Website AlienScapel
http://www.alienscalpel.com/









Gary Lowery, the abductee 2006

None of the images are showing Zorgon.

1WW

[thorfourwinds]

Looks good from this end...