Farside buildings

[Captain Dave]

So are there buildings on the moon currently? Quite possible. If so:
Possibilities:
Ancient buildings - Uninhabited by original occupants
Ancient buildings - Currently inhabited by original occupants
Ancient buildings - Inhabited by people from Earth
Ancient buildings - Inhabited by people from Earth & Original occupants

Modern buildings - Currently inhabited by people from Earth

If the first is true - Well lets go there.
If the rest are true - Well then "they" aren't advertising it.

[Pimander]

I am therefore of the opinion that We are capable of contacting ourselves in alternate dimensions, and there We KNOW all.
The here and now is to experience whatever and report that via DMT enabling a TRIP onto a different geometry due to the DMT enlarging your personal field.

DMT does allow us to access other realities/dimensions/frequencies.  I also think that some of your ideas on here are interesting and worthy of their own thread so that they can be assessed on their merits.  If it is worth knowing I think it is worth your time to expound them clearly and carefully for us all.

Just advice.  It's free, take it if you like....

There is a simple method of nullifying that field   

Hobbit can you tell us what you see on the moon ?

I get your drift, but at the same time Other's here are on the right track too

How to nullify that field might also be worthy of its own thread too.

[Pimander]

Thanks Captain Dave for getting this back on topic.

On page 4 of this thread there was no discussion of Lunar far-side buildings at all, apart from Somamech asking Hobbit to take a look.  I know this is a conversation and they drift and some of it is kind of related but we don't want every thread to just turn into a general chit chat.  I for one am genuinely interested in what folks are seeing and want to hear more.

Sorry to be a party-pooper.

[Captain Dave]

If there is a society living on the moon currently; and say they are not out of phase/time with earth; I would think most structures might be subterranean if they did not wish to be detected. (aside from having devleloped cloaking tech) The Chinese for instance have developed over 3000 mile of tunnels here on the good ole Earth...

If they didn't want to be seen in the first place, I imagine it would be easy enough to design buildings shaped like craters for instance.

Supposing there are undetectable subterranean structures, why would they need an above ground complex; and then of course, if given an unnatural geometric shape from the lunar surface, they wouldn't exactly be trying to hide very well. ( but hey, people make mistakes too so that is possible )

I would suspect any geometric anomaly non conforming to the lunar surface might be:

Ancient buildings from a past occupation where the residents are no longer living. ie: past annihilation of most biological entities with only some visable structures survivng. This would suggest that the moon once sustained abundant life and some action caused this to change. ie asteroid/nuclear...

A past expedition from Earth as yet unknown by the public.
If these are old photo's, this could suggest we had greater ambitions with our space programs than was ever released publicly. (psh well that sounds plausible)

However if thats the case then these area's would probably be hidden or removed by now if the operation is ongoing.

More possibilities:
Crashed probes/experiments fired from Earth.

Crashed probes from "Elsewhere".
If this is the case, someone might have left a probe that once activated might let them know Humans have reached a certain given point. A beacon that transmits a signal. Could also be a seed device that creates life over billions of years.

Unexploded ordinance from a previous war.

(on a side note, if you spun a sphere fast enough, would it disappear from view?)

[Captain Dave]

(Cropped image from original post and magnified - no other enhancements) This does look similar to a mechanical device though... I suppose it could also be left over fragments of the original meteor.

Could be something similar to a satellite dish if using the background crater? (click image to enlarge)



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[Sgt.Rocknroll]

(Cropped image from original post and magnified - no other enhancements) This does look similar to a mechanical device though... I suppose it could also be left over fragments of the original meteor.

Could be something similar to a satellite dish if using the background crater? (click image to enlarge)

I'm working on a 3d model of that right now. The more I look at it the more I'm thinking it's not a satellite dish or communication structure but more of a craft/vehicle. IMO...

[Pimander]

We just need some Privates, a Major, Colonel and General and we have a chain of command here.  Will you be issuing orders to Sgt, Captain?

This seems to be in the spirit of the thread.  This is a good one to look at in my opinion, I'm not sure what John thinks.  What I'm saying below assumes that the anomaly is NOT an artefact, which in my opinion it clearly isn't.

First of all that thing is massive and we need to work out it's size so we need a scale.  Secondly, a 3D model would be super cool Sarge.  Thirdly, judging by the shadow, that thing is clearly only supported by a relatively thin column and appears to practically defy gravity.  There might be some supports we cannot see or as Sarge says, it may be an enormous craft.

The Brimham Rocks near Nidderdale, Yorkshire Dales, England are said to have been carved by druids, but they date back to around 320 million years ago when the Yorkshire area formed from sand and other materials washed down from Norway and Scotland, leaving an area known as the Millstone Grit. Later glaciers carved the land down, leaving the strangely-shaped stones exposed, in the period from roughly 73,000 BC to 10,000 BC. The rocks now stand at a little less than 30 meters tall

SOURCE: http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/40827

On Earth, the Brimham rocks (picture above) are about as gravity defying as I know of.  By comparison that thing in Captains cropped image is huge and even wider relative to its support.  It is possible for something of that nature to free stand but rare.

I'm looking forward to Sarge's 3D model, mainly to see if it shows what I think I see - as I expect it to.

If it's an Imperial Destroyer then I hope the moon isn't the Death Star.


SOURCE: http://starwarstech.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Star_Destroyer

[Somamech]

Cool!  We are back on the Moon 

[Pimander]

Oh, I forgot to add.  If glaciation leads to the formation of rocks like that, then that would indicate the presence of vast amounts of water on the moon (glaciers being composed of mainly ice).  It would also require an atmosphere capable of lifting water up onto mountains before it froze and then flowed down the glacier forming the rocks.  Glaciers would also have effected the crater and cut through it which has not happened in this example. 

EDIT:  The above would lead to wind being the only natural process that forms structures like that on earth.  Similarly to above, that being the case, there would have to be a significant atmosphere and weather, on the Moon,  capable of making a wind carry dust that erodes rock.  Wind would also have eroded the crater which, again it does not appear to have done. 

This is anomalous in my opinion.  Does anyone know different?  Any dissenters?

[hobbit]

With respect,
And my last post on this thread.
What causes the wind( don't say beans)
The wind is a consequence, not the origonater.
The atoms of atmosphere are responding to zones of opposite attraction...implosion and emmittance.
try to think of huge flows of these zones of attraction and emmitance been active....with or without atmosphere.
Then think of what holds mass together ...atom to atom.
In the blink of an eye...no-thing, not nothing...no-thing.
like me out of this thread,
hobbit

[Pimander]

I mean that for wind or ice erosion there has to be a significant atmosphere capable of harbouring(?) weather.  I agree that there would certainly be forces present that would cause said weather.

However, erosional processes like that seem unlikely to have created the object under discussion as they would have eroded the crater in the same way and, from the evidence of the picture, haven't done so.

The above means there has to be an alternative explanation for the presence of the object.  Candidates include:

• An artificially constructed building
• A possible craft perhaps with anti-gravity capability
• An extraordinarily large machine/technological device (mining or communication?)
• Building or other construction
• Natural rock formation formed by a largely unknown process as Hobbit suggests
• A combination of the above?

I'd be interested to hear John, Exuberant1 and others opinions.

[Somamech]

With respect,
And my last post on this thread.
What causes the wind( don't say beans)
The wind is a consequence, not the origonater.
The atoms of atmosphere are responding to zones of opposite attraction...implosion and emmittance.
try to think of huge flows of these zones of attraction and emmitance been active....with or without atmosphere.
Then think of what holds mass together ...atom to atom.
In the blink of an eye...no-thing, not nothing...no-thing.
like me out of this thread,
hobbit

Yes a new thread would be good! As I said before what you say mate is sorta running the realms of other stuff I've been looking into!

I'm very interested to hear your experience!

Likewise people forget that John has been around the remote viewing program folk. 

Theres a place for all   

[Captain Dave]

So natural erosion around an original piece of an asteroid would seem to make the most sense. Given the lunar surface contains alot of dust; it would seem logical that dust could easily be moved away from around the object over time by some force; ie wind...?; leaving the object elevated. Given the slightly offset nature of the object within the crater it would also suggest the object might have come in at a slight angle during impact.

However if somebody left the Millennium Falcon parked up there with the keys in it... I want some flight time! 

(Hobbit, I think your theories are great - expressing new idea's is the foundation for new discoveries.)

Pimander, I'm more like "Captain Ron" than "Captain America" so I'm not responsible enough to give orders. lol

Sgt.RocknRoll, can't wait to see the 3D mockup, that's awesome!

[Pimander]

Captain,  I have listed a number of possibilities but ruled out glacial or wind on the basis that they would have had a more dramatic effect on the crater.

[Captain Dave]

Captain,  I have listed a number of possibilities but ruled out glacial or wind on the basis that they would have had a more dramatic effect on the crater.

Well... Whats under the dust? I mean what is the composition of the moons surface under the dust?

"The moon is composed of rock and soil, not unlike earth. And there are some similarities. But the nature of the rocks and soil over the moon isn't that well documented. We only have a few samples, and this limited supply of stuff to study originated in only a few areas - those where we landed to investigate. It isn't like we have samples from all over, as there were only a few missions to the lunar surface."

Samples of lunar soil have revealed that it is composed of the following:

42% oxygen
21% silicon
13% iron
8% calcium
7% aluminium
6% magnesium
3% other elements

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_moon_made_of#ixzz1gXsiBo4N

Given the weight of soil compared with dust, isn't it possible that some lighter weight elements might blow away while heavier elements would remain in place over millions of years?

So could say, relatively gentle solar winds blowing regularly over Billions of years move some elements; a little at a time; while leaving behind the heavier elements?

"Dust Storms
Unlike Earth, Mars is covered with sand and dust. In fact, the dust is so pervasive it has created sand dunes throughout the planet. The same solar wind striking Mars can cause a dust storm. Though solar wind can move along planet Mars as only a hot wind, it can also whip up enough dust to create clouds of moving dust over the planet, or even dust devils. These storms can become so volatile and powerful that they add to the wind already circulating on the planet."

Read more: What Are the Causes of Wind on Planet Mars? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8565294_causes-wind-planet-mars.html#ixzz1gXvMlqcb

So if the Crater and Asteroid within it were composed of rock or "some other heavy element", the solar winds would have far less affect on them over time.

Personally, I'd rather just go up there and check it out. Set up a nice little subterranean out post. Send high speed drones carrying parts and supplies back and forth between Earth and Moon. Couple satellite signal relay stations so we can still get Internet. Build a nice little indoor greenhouse...