Farside buildings

[johnlear]

Rock,

The oval in the right background of IMG 0250 is a saucer that has been airbrushed out.

[johnlear]

Rock,
This is a spaceport on the far side near Lomonosv. See what you can do with it.



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[johnlear]

Rock,

Here is what the spaceport look like to me. Control tower on left.
Look like the terminal has 3 gate ways.

Best,

John




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[johnlear]

Rock,

When you have a spare minute please take the structure in reactor.wmv, turn it upside down, then put a shallow dome on top that is glowing just a little bit.

Here are a few notes I made about the photo.




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[johnlear]

Here is a photo of an explosion on the moon taken in 1946 by the Yerkes Observatory. Other than
the fact that this shows that the moon has a thick enough atmosphere to support a dust cloud what else do we see in this photo? Oh, by the way, that is Endymion to the right.




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[Sgt.Rocknroll]

John, thanks for the kudos, and wow I really like the notes and your thoughts on what you see. It really helps a lot. When I was modeling the 'vehicle' in the crater, I showed my son and asked him what he thought. The first thing out of his mouth when he was looking and the object in the crater was 'that thing has landing gear'..I then showed him my work on the 'spaceport' and he started picking out things that I hadn't noticed, more buildings and a tunnel maybe...This sure is fun ...I'll get to work on the images as soon as I have time. The wife has to work this weekend so I'll have plently of uninterupted time to 'play' . I have a new piece of software for purely viewing 3d models. I'm taking a little time to learn the tricks and operation..It's slow sometime. These 61 yr. old eyes get tired sometimes. anyway it seems one benefit to the viewing software is that the raster moon pics look a little clearer. I'll try to use that and see if I can get  sharper image resolution. Anyway that's it. I'll try and post some more...Once again and comments would be extremely welcomed. Peace....

[johnlear]

John, thanks for the kudos, and wow I really like the notes and your thoughts on what you see. It really helps a lot. When I was modeling the 'vehicle' in the crater, I showed my son and asked him what he thought. The first thing out of his mouth when he was looking and the object in the crater was 'that thing has landing gear'..I then showed him my work on the 'spaceport' and he started picking out things that I hadn't noticed, more buildings and a tunnel maybe...This sure is fun ...I'll get to work on the images as soon as I have time. The wife has to work this weekend so I'll have plently of uninterupted time to 'play' . I have a new piece of software for purely viewing 3d models. I'm taking a little time to learn the tricks and operation..It's slow sometime. These 61 yr. old eyes get tired sometimes. anyway it seems one benefit to the viewing software is that the raster moon pics look a little clearer. I'll try to use that and see if I can get  sharper image resolution. Anyway that's it. I'll try and post some more...Once again and comments would be extremely welcomed. Peace....

Outstanding. Please send me the name of the softwares you use and where to get it. Thanks.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

The modeling software is Autocad 2011. It's a drafting and design software that can produce drawings and 3d models. The software produces a 'dwg' file extension and unless you know how to draft or model, it won't be any good to you. It cost around $4000.00. The viewing software I mentioned is Bentley View. Bentley produces 3d software that sits on top of Autocad and has several different products,..i.e. Piping, Structural, Equipment, Electrical and numerous other design packages for Civil, Mapping etc... The 'Bentley View' is a free download from the Bentley site and anyone can download it. But unless you have a 'dwg' to load to look at, it probably won't do you any good. I did use it last night to load the 'vehicle' model and the raster image that I attached to the dwg loaded with it. which as I said seemed to me to be a little clearer. I don't know, it might be my imagination, but my son was looking at it and he thought the image was clearer in Bentley View. I still have to play around with it though. Anyway I hope this helps...   More models to come..Peace

[Somamech]

They keep getting better Sarge 

At the rate your working at...  A scale model is quite possible, especially if we could get a few more involved 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Yes scale is a problem. Most moon photos are at an angle and at that the objects/structures produce angular shadows. In most cases shadows or the lack of shadows is the only thing you have to go on.  I have to imagine/decide what the object in the picture looks like 'top-down' that produces a shadow that we're seeing in the pictures. I then have to orbit/rotate the model to fit the picture. Sometimes it works out just right but mostly it takes a bit of doing. I was thinking of creating a full size moon and mapping all the tiff images to it to give me a better idea of where everything is and to produce a top-down effect. The creation is simple, but the mapping is a little more difficult. I've done it in the past, but it's been awhile. There are commerically 3d moon models but none of theme suits my purpose. A lot of times the models are in another software and produce different file extension than I'm use to working with.

[Gigas]

This ain't the farside but why is this so clear looking down on Aristuchus and whats with the tunnel looking thing.

[Pimander]

This is great stuff, Sarge.  You and your 3D image processing (and your son) saw what I thought I could see.

So has anyone worked out the scale?  How big is that thing?

As I said, it looks just like an imperial destroyer.



Out of interest, do any members think that does not look like a craft?

[A51Watcher]

Here is a photo of an explosion on the moon taken in 1946 by the Yerkes Observatory. Other than
the fact that this shows that the moon has a thick enough atmosphere to support a dust cloud what else do we see in this photo? Oh, by the way, that is Endymion to the right.




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Speaking of atmosphere John, that photo reminded me of one from Fred Steckling's book - We Found Alien Bases On The Moon.




Sorry if it's hard to see any buildings what with all that... cloud cover!   

[Captain Dave]

I'm Sorry guys, I don't want to rattle any cages but could that photo be a fake... After looking at it for awhile and seeing dual drill heads etc I also noticed another similar shape... (It's all in the name of the truth right, so don't hate me lol) Here goes, 

Pimander,
The main image is originally from the first page of this post (First image) . After I cropped it and blew up the smaller "space ship" image and took a good look at it... well it dawned on me that it might be an old "pedal plane" from the 50's (before my time, but I've been around haha) So I grabbed an old image of a 50's pedal plane off the net for comparison sake and  did a super quick/ super impose to create the following image. Not saying all photo's are Fake, just suggesting the original this was taken from might be one of them.

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[Pimander]

Of course it could be a fake or modified.  Any image can be.

You've lost me a bit.... Where did you crop this new similar shape from?  Is it cropped from the original image file John posted?