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Started by johnlear, December 08, 2011, 05:41:12 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 05, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
This is just a work in progress.
Interesting, but the perspective looks wrong, as the "feature" looks flat and almost perpendicular to an axis from the the viewer to the surface.

At least to me. :)

PS: here's a better version.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on August 06, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
PS: here's a better version.
I don't want to sound thick but can one of you show me where on the TIFF image Sgt's building is?  I can't see it.

I prefer to appear ignorant and ask stupid questions than to remain ignorant forever.  :o

Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: ArMaP on August 06, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
Interesting, but the perspective looks wrong, as the "feature" looks flat and almost perpendicular to an axis from the the viewer to the surface.

At least to me. :)

PS: here's a better version.

Well ArMaP, did you notice it wasn't a video?...lolol..and I did say it's a work in progress.

Perspective? Here's the problem, I'm looking at an object that appears to be a structure of 3 dimensions but it's on a flat 2d plane i.e. a photo. I can do 1 of 2 things here. I can model the item which requires 3 dimensions, scaled of course to match the photo, then rotate it so that the model appears as it does on the photo with the correct perspective. Or I can model it as it directly appears, extruding a 2d outline to get the desired effect.. The first one I used on John's space port, scaling off the photo and then modeling it with 3 different views. Most of my later models I modeled on the fly as the item appears. (making any sense?)..Some of my vid's were just plain outlines because the item didn't have a clearly defined shape..(is it a rock or what?)...Anyway as I said before, I'm still working on it...

Rock  8)

P.S. thanks for the link to a better photo..You always seem to come through.... ;D
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ArMaP

#438
Quote from: Pimander on August 07, 2012, 12:01:50 AM
I don't want to sound thick but can one of you show me where on the TIFF image Sgt's building is?  I can't see it.
"My" photo must be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise to be in the same position. The "building" is in the area marked in red.



QuoteI prefer to appear ignorant and ask stupid questions than to remain ignorant forever.  :o
That's the idea. :D

ArMaP

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 07, 2012, 12:50:46 AM
Well ArMaP, did you notice it wasn't a video?...lolol..and I did say it's a work in progress.
Yes, I noticed it. :)

QuoteOr I can model it as it directly appears, extruding a 2d outline to get the desired effect..
That's where the problem is, as it looks like the direction of the extrusion is not perpendicular to the ground's surface.

Sorry, but as I am incapable of making comprehensible drawings (even for me), I cannot explain it better.

Pimander

#440
Quote from: ArMaP on August 07, 2012, 01:51:11 AM
"My" photo must be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise to be in the same position. The "building" is in the area marked in red.
No wonder I couldn't find it. :)

Just so I know.... Is North the real North in your photo or Sarge's?

ETA:  The flaming tiff just crashed GIMP now.  I'll take a look when I have no other applications running. ::)

ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on August 07, 2012, 02:15:31 AM
No wonder I couldn't find it. :)

Just so I know.... Is North the real North in your photo or Sarge's?
I don't know, I didn't thought about that. :)

Pimander

GIMP has crashed now!!!

It will be either North or South at the top in Sarge's.  You can tell by the shadows.

Sgt.Rocknroll

Ok gang here's a small update. The last pic explains what I see.
With the first photo, it's kind of hard to see but if you have the Hi-res photo ArMaP supplied, I think you can see it.
If you look carefully you can see what I think is the shadow of the disch to the lower right of the disch.

Or ..... it's just a pile of rocks...lololol.. you be the judge..
Anyway more to come...
Rock  8)






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Sgt.Rocknroll

Ok, this is all I got....of AS11-41-6139














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1Worldwatcher

As usual Sgt. "Really great work!!"
as I was looking upon the stills from Strums archives, and seeing the dimensions you had provided "Did you notice the shadow too the left of the structure on the ground that coincides with the something hanging off the side of the structure that looks like a satellite?"
There is something there too cast this shadow, but very shaded if you don't concentrate on the photo too see what I am seeing. Just an FYI Sgt. And thanks again  my friend.



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mikeybandb

#446
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 13, 2012, 02:17:19 AM
Ok, this is all I got....of AS11-41-6139

















Nice Work!!  Did you notice this also?                                                              as11-41=6139.tif





And what looks like a pyramid...




1Worldwatcher

Nice catch Mikeybandb!



But where my attention is drawn too is the valley between both high rise areas and what is in between them, looks as if it may be a structure as well, or a machine of sorts. Either way, if there is anyone that can get a better grip on what we are looking at, it would be our very own Sgt. :)
And by the way Sgt. , do you see the shadow I was talking about that was next to the object you had outlined? Too me it looks as if it is a satellite mounted on the top/side of the structure you had already outlined.
Either way, this thread rocks, and I wonder where John is lately, hope he is doing well. "If you are reading John and not posting "Hello" and excellent evidence thus far being found with what you are providing to Sgt. for research!!"

1Worldwatcher
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Sgt.Rocknroll

the pyramid and the object  are both interesting and I was able to find the object by spending a lot of time looking for it and rotating it as you did, but it would be helpful to have a location pointed out as in a full photo with the areas of interest circled or hilighted as to not having to spend time looking for it and also whether the object you might be looking at has been rotated or altered in a way to clearly see what you're talking about. As you know anomalies are not always spotted with the presented photo. Sometimes they blur them up or rotate them to hide things...IMHO

Rock
8)
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1Worldwatcher

#449
Hey Sgt.,
In this still photo, next to the structure, there is a shadow on the ground to the left, is this a shadow of a topographical anomaly? or is it a shadow of something that is being cast from the structure that is attached higher on its top side?



It may be a shadow of a rock being casted, but the shape is very similar to what a satellite would cast. And if you look in the direction above the shadow, it appears something is there being suspended as well. I am not sure, thought maybe you could verify with your CAD software. ;)

1Worldwatcher

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