Farside buildings

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I took this photo and ran every kind of filter/effects from pixelation to contour gradients and couldn't find anything that said it was tampered with. What I DID find was some of the most unusual shapes and items I have seen in a long time. The lighting seems to be coming from various sources and cast some strange shapes. The crater in the upper right that John hi-lighted was indeed 'different'. At first while I was looking at it I thought that it look almost like a saucer sitting out in mid air. But with no shadow casting I decided that it was indeed a crater. But why the strange shadows. Upon digging down into the pixels, I decided that it was a landing with a step. I know, I know, it could be anything but that's what I came up with. There are also some very strange 'structures' or rock formations just to the left of the crater that peaked my interest. But I really like what was down in the lower left corner. Very odd looking formation that could be anything from a ship, to a lava flow to I don't know what. Anyway folks, that's my take on it. Let me know what you think.
Peace...

[starwarp2000]

Hubble Shoots the Moon - NASA Caught in Yet Another Lie.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hubble.htm



Makes me wonder how much integrity that NAZA has left? 

[Pimander]

To the shock and amazement of many in the planetary science community, the Space Telescope Science Institute (STSI) on April 16th, 1999, released the first Hubble Space Telescope images ever taken of the Moon. What was shocking to so many of these scientists and researchers was not what was on the images, but rather that the images themselves even existed. You see, for more than 5 years, the STSI and NASA have been consistently claiming that the Hubble flatly could not image the Moon!

Using the ostensible reason that the Moon was "too bright" to image with the sensitive telescope's instruments, employees of both agencies have been publicly and privately suppressing any efforts -- especially those of this investigation -- to "Shoot the Moon." Once we had determined that there were numerous anomalies and potential artifacts on the Lunar surface, Enterprise principal investigator Richard C. Hoagland began an effort to use the Hubble's exquisite instruments to get close up views of some of these suspect areas. The response at the time was the "too bright" argument.

SOURCE: http://www.enterprisemission.com/hubble.htm

Starwarp, athough relevant here, I reckon you could make this a thread of it's own if you were so inclined.....

[starwarp2000]

Starwarp, athough relevant here, I reckon you could make this a thread of it's own if you were so inclined.....

Thanks for that suggestion Pimander 

As John is our resident Moon Expert, i will leave it up to him to comment on the validity and/or significance of that post.

I just found it most interesting that NAZA seems to speak one thing and is shown to be doing another!

[starwarp2000]

Holy Shit, Man walks on Trucking Moon.

Tranquility Base: This is Tranquility Base. The Eagle has landed. Jesus H. Christ, Houston. We're on the trucking Moon. Over.

Houston: Roger, Tranquility, we copy you. We cannot believe you are on the trucking moon. Repeat: Cannot trucking believe it. Over.

History needs to be rewritten 

http://www.members.shaw.ca/rlongpre01/moon.html

[zorgon]

This is a photo of a generator allegedly the size of the Bronx to the west or north west of Lubiniesky. Supposed  Ken Johnston will be talking about it on the C2C show tonight with George Knapp.

The photo below has a circle drawn around where it is supposed to be. I looked for it but couldn't find it.



Dang problem with Hoagland and Ken Johnston is they never give us the source image... kinda pisses me off actually because it means to much work to track them down. That object is a good one... even ArMaP at ATS is puzzled by it and that is saying a LOT

So here is the source image

Apollo 16
AS16-116-18603HR



Now it wasn't Ken Johnston or Hoagland that found this one....

Here is the story:

This enigma was first brought to our attention by Papajake, a member of ATS and Pegasus Group... thanks for the find! This one is most spectacular indeed.

IMPORTANT UPDATE:
Though this is a case of 'rediscovery' or perhaps independent observation, credit for first discovery on this anomaly rightly belongs to Keith Laney. In the search for anomalies in old images it is always going to happen that there will be  a cross over of discoveries, but it is our goal at Pegasus to be in the lead giving credit where credit is due... In my opinion that alone goes a long way to establishing both credibility and good rapport with other researchers...

Note from Keith...

"Which is pretty much a cut out copy of this anomaly's original release at my site I discovered it back a several years ago. Yeah- the gear looking thing and the seat back etc.  The guys at photovni did not discover these, they've been freely available at both my old and now new sites for YEARS Notice the similarities."

http://www.keithlaney.net/Apollo-digs/apollo_digs2.htm

Machine Parts found on the Moon:

The skeptics are going to be hard pressed to call this one a "trick of light and shadow" or "its just a rock" In the main anomaly detailed below you can see two round cylinders with a serrated but symmetrical edge. One is partially buried. In the second one (B) you can see a very obvious gear on a shaft, with a flat flange or mounting bracket at the top. The overall impression is that of two pieces that belong together, with the gear shaped object being on the inside of the cylinder.









Original Comments of note:
Comments:
posted by Papajake on 16-3-2007 at 05:50 PM(ATS post id: 3036386)
"I found a French web site that was displaying an anomaly that I had to share here. Hope they don't mind. Here's a link to their web site for credit:

http://photovni.free.fr/anomalie%206/apollo.htm

Here's the anomaly. If this photo doesn't get you thinking, nothing will... "

posted by ArMap on 17-3-2007 at 08:16 AM  (ATS post id: 3037884)
"That does not look like a common rock, it looks like a dirt filled tube."

posted by The Borg on 17-3-2007 at 03:48 AM  (ATS post id: 3037525)
Did I just see what I thought I just saw?
I'm beginning to seriously wonder what things might be going on on the Lunar surface. If we all remember, I was one of the staunchest protestors to this idea some 110 pages ago. Now, I'm not so sure...

posted by The Borg on 17-3-2007 at 03:54 AM (ATS post id: 3037531)
zorgon,
It's quite possible that that could be the remnants of a previously failed mission to the moon. It may be the crash debris from the craft, if it crashed.
Just some thoughts... TheBorg

posted by Zorgon on 17-3-2007 at 11:25 AM  (this post)
Now that would be something I would easily accept. And if true it would be simple to verify that... However NASA calls that photo simply "House Rock", a name unusual in itself... but there is no mention of this being debris of another spacecraft.

I think that THIS image might indeed be one that we should send to NASA and ask them what they think it is.

[Pimander]

I think that THIS image (the "pipe" in the post above) might indeed be one that we should send to NASA and ask them what they think it is.

No doubt about it for me.  ArMap threw it into an ATS thread full of "experts" and was summarily ignored.  There are some seriously dishonest attitudes to evidence on ATS.  The more I learn about that place the more scary it gets!

Note to self:  I really must try to avoid making it my mission to put the "ATS experts" straight on every point - time is too precious.

P.S.  If we send pictures to NASA and want answers, perhaps we should make it an open letter and post it on ATS, here and try to get it onto other news sources.  It makes us much harder to ignore.  Let me know what you think.

[IronDogg]

"The Pipe" is certainly an interesting piece. As suggested previously, I have always wondered about the possibility that the pipe and gears may have come from a machine built by humans. So maybe off of a craft or booster, or even off old satellites or early stages of mir or something. Anyway, it looks "too human made" to be natural or of potential alien origin (not that I know what things of alien origin actually look like).

[guerande]

A French site, but pics and drawings are worth to see !
Unfortunately the author doesn't replies ,  his mail box is dead .
I'll try to contact him, for knowing if he is still working on the Moon !

Here  :  http://philippe.cosmidis.pagesperso-orange.fr/Face%20cachee/Accueil.html

All the best

Guerande

[WarToad]

4 year lurker on ATS, OMF, here.  Much respect to all posters.

John Lear:

The population of the moon is between one and one point five billion.

With the Earth at 7.0 mil population, the moon having a quarter the diameter of Earth and 1?81 its mass, yet somehow supporting biologically 1/6 (roughly) the population with miniscule atmosphere and little if no surface evidence - I'm having a VERY difficult time keeping an open mind to this.  One thing humans do is leave a trail.  We always do.  Everywhere.  Socially, politically, culturally, militarially, enviromentally. We're messy and have been since the dawn of humanity.

If there's 1 billion humans up there, there's a few bad eggs.  We are our own worst enemy.  A few hundred.  A thousand+.  Bad eggs who break rules, leave tracks, destroy things, make big marks, break free and do their own thing regardless of consequences.

OK, there's some anomalies up there.   But nothing JUMPS out.  Not evidence of 1 Billion people or even small signs of them.

John Lear: 

Moon population based on visitors comments (Menger, et al), number of cities, Damoiseau, Petavius B, Lomonsov, T. Mayer to name just a few, mining operations, and general common sense of a planet with 70% earths gravity and surface atmosheric pressure  of about 14.94 in/Hg and time of development, 20 billion years (manufactured inside Jupiter, date towed to Earth (unknown) but estimated to be 12,000 to 15,000 (this time around).

The age of the Earth is 4.5 Billion years.  The entire solar system is calculated out to be 4.6 billion years from a molecular cloud condensing.  20 billion years ago...  Jupiter... some kind of ET moon manufacturing... inside a ultra turbulent super gravity... what?

I keep an open mind.  I want to understand.  Outside the box is always interesting and a worthwhile exercise.  But you need to cite some references here for constructive critisisim and support.  I've always enjoyed your posts, but I need more meat here.  My Google-Fu is not supporting the claims. Perhaps I am simply behind the curve.  Please help me.

Much respect,
WarToad. (Ret.)

[Captain Dave]

Here is the entire photo. Look  at top right outlined in yellow: fake or real?



By johnlear at 2011-12-28

I'm no pro, but given the apparent direction of the light corresponding to the shadows, the entire photo appears faked. Most of those clean crisp craters also look like someone used a cloning tool and just randomly dotted the surface.

So it seems either someone is faking the entire photo or throwing in relatively obvious distractions on a real photo.

If it's a real photo, I would think those "clean crisp craters" might be hiding some obvious geometric shapes that might give away the secret.

There is sooooooo much evidence that humankind has risen multiple times to a height of technology, in our ancient past, not unlike the one we are in now, and then been mysteriously almost wiped out of existence.

The moon in all probablity holds many of the answers to our ancient past and therefore quite possibly our future. If we are "started over" again, we will be right back here in thousands of years asking the same questions. What I'd like to know is how do we get it right this time?

[johnlear]

4 year lurker on ATS, OMF, here.  Much respect to all posters.

John Lear:
With the Earth at 7.0 mil population, the moon having a quarter the diameter of Earth and 1?81 its mass, yet somehow supporting biologically 1/6 (roughly) the population with miniscule atmosphere and little if no surface evidence - I'm having a VERY difficult time keeping an open mind to this.  One thing humans do is leave a trail.  We always do.  Everywhere.  Socially, politically, culturally, militarially, enviromentally. We're messy and have been since the dawn of humanity.

If there's 1 billion humans up there, there's a few bad eggs.  We are our own worst enemy.  A few hundred.  A thousand+.  Bad eggs who break rules, leave tracks, destroy things, make big marks, break free and do their own thing regardless of consequences.

OK, there's some anomalies up there.   But nothing JUMPS out.  Not evidence of 1 Billion people or even small signs of them.

John Lear: 
The age of the Earth is 4.5 Billion years.  The entire solar system is calculated out to be 4.6 billion years from a molecular cloud condensing.  20 billion years ago...  Jupiter... some kind of ET moon manufacturing... inside a ultra turbulent super gravity... what?

I keep an open mind.  I want to understand.  Outside the box is always interesting and a worthwhile exercise.  But you need to cite some references here for constructive critisisim and support.  I've always enjoyed your posts, but I need more meat here.  My Google-Fu is not supporting the claims. Perhaps I am simply behind the curve.  Please help me.

Much respect,
WarToad. (Ret.)

Welcome WarToad,

You seem to be a little behind in the physics of the moon but allow me to bring you up to date.

The surface gravity of the moon is 70% that of earth based on the Newtown-Bullialdus Law of Inverse Square using standard figures of distance and a neutral point of 43,495 miles given to us by Werner von Braun. This calculation was made as a three body problem (the sun being the third) to pacify the Obergs of the world, who gasp at three body calculations.

As proven by mathematical genius Pari Spolter in her 1993 book, "The Gravitation Force of the Sun" there is no basis for Newton's assumption that gravitational force is due to and is proportional to the quantity or density of matter.

So any calculation using Newton's Second law is flat out wrong. In fact, Keepers Third Law trumps Newton's second law any day of the week.

Of course with 70% gravity of the Earth means an Apollo moon landing, which we all know anyway, was faked. Not enough fuel to deorbit, land, takeoff, re-attain orbit and dock. Certainly not with 22,000 pounds of it anyway.

The 70% of earths  gravity allows the moon to have a surface level atmosphere equal to 18,000 feet here  on earth. Takes a little getting used to for us but for 1.5 billion people that were born up there, no problem.

The size of the universe is infinite. The moon is about 16 billion years old and the earth about 25 billion. You can throw any carbon dated calculated material out the window as these calculations are little better than using Ouija board.

Although the humans on the moon are identical to us except for being sociologically and technologically advanced they have very, very clean practices and habits and that is why you can't see their atmosphere even if it was dusty and dirty, 3 or 4 miles above the surface would be difficult to detect. Not impossible though,  because both Pickering and Firsoff saw glimpses of it. (Strange World of the Moon, Firsoff).

As to your 'jumping out anomalies' every light you see up there and there are hundreds on the near side are cities. How NAZA has been able to ignore this amazing to me.

Most of the cities on the near and far side have been air-brushed out of any NAZA photos but a few remain such as Damoiseaux, Petavius B, Tobia Meyer, Lomonosov are clearly  visible with houses, buildings and factories.

Enormous mining operations such as in the photo Lunar Orbiter 1-102 are readily visible with roads, buildings and something being sprayed out of the craters.

The mining operation on the north interior face of Copernicus in the photo LO2-162M is the granddaddy of them all with bucket wheel excavators, buildings, roads, bridges and what look like trestles.

The photo Zorgon and I posted years ago of Aristarchus show what may be a nuclear reactor of some sort 25 miles in diameter with a blue glow. The blue glow is similar to the Cerenkov effect of radiation coming in contact with air. Of course it may be a gigantic structure of something else.

You say nothing jumps out. Correct it's YOU what needs to jump out of the box you're in. You will also need years of photo surface feature identification and a keen eye to separate what humans expect to see most: numbers, straight lines, animal figures, facial figures, that sort of thing, from what's really there. Once you get past that you are well on your way.

The 'infinite universe' is also something that will take a little while to wrap your brain around. There was no beginning, no big bang, and there will be no end. You need to think in terms of a billion times a billion earths similar to ours. Billions upon billions of different species of aliens.

Many of these alien races have robots so technologically advanced they can walk through concrete or brick walls with disturbing the dust. Can look deep into your eyes and see the very depths of our soul and let you know it.

Robots who spend their days and nights abducting humans for 3, 7 and 13 year checkups. Like 3000 mile checkups for your car, they check fan belts for wear, battery fluid and radiator fluid for proper level. Spark plugs not all carboned up, wires secure and air filter replaced if necessary. Tire pressures, backup lights, all that sort of thing but human stuff.

All these things while we sit in our lawn chairs looking up at the stars on a warm summer night, wondering whether or not this will be the night that SETI makes contact with an alien race who is tapping out Morse code, "Is anybody out there?"

Just remember this: whether or not you climb, leap, step, hurtle, jump or flip out the box...you will never ever be able to get back in. Why? Because there is no box. Everything has been there for infinity.

Again, thanks for joining us.

[ArMaP]

Note to self:  I really must try to avoid making it my mission to put the "ATS experts" straight on every point - time is too precious.

But if you have fun doing you shouldn't stop.

[Pimander]

But if you have fun doing you shouldn't stop.

Oh I have loads of fun ArMap, but mainly when I don't get too carried away.  But you know what I'm like, some days I go through every post on UFO and Aliens and try to correct all the stupid posts.... Those days are when it becomes obsessive and not particularly healthy - I have plenty to do as it is. 

I should learn to keep my mouth shut and let go.  Like Isaac says, it isn't somebodies personal mission to correct everyone. 

[WarToad]

Welcome WarToad,...

Again, thanks for joining us.

Thank you John to the time and thought into that reply.  Let me put a little mental and intestinal fortitude into digesting, self researching, and  a meaningful worthwhile reply.

Cheers,

Wartoad. (Ret)