UFO SIGHTINGS: MUFON Cases - 2 UFOs Photographed Over McAlester, Oklahoma

[zorgon]

UFO SIGHTINGS: MUFON Cases - 2 UFOs Photographed Over McAlester, Oklahoma On June 21, 2013!

June 24, 2013 - UNITED STATES - The following photo and eye-witness account was taken from the Mutual UFO Network's online database.

On June 21, 2013 I decided to start marking the sunset as it met the horizon to make me a rock calendar kind of like Stonehenge.

I picked out a spot on the west side of my property, placed a rectangle rock next to a fence post and spray painted the post gray.

I sat my Iphone on top of my tripod to mark the heading of where the sun was setting and what heading I was facing to make sure that I can make the same observation each month as the sun sets.

I snapped a couple of photos of the sun setting and then turned my attention to the hills north of where I was standing.

I snapped a couple of shots and then came into the house to download them on my computer. As I was going through the pictures, I noticed these two triangle shaped objects that I had not seen while taking the pictures.

I then cropped the picture to enlarge the objects. At first glance I thought they might have been birds, but I've never taken any pictures of birds in flight that look like these.

Upon further observation of the objects, I noticed that the one on the left bottom appears to be behind some telephone wires that are approximately 150 yards down my driveway which makes the object appear to be very large.

The second object appears to be behind the leaves of the tree that is approximately 30 yards in front of me, and also appears to be very large. I took two pictures just a few seconds apart and the objects are only in one of the photos.

Im not saying these are UFOs; well I guess they are because I cannot Identify them.

I just wanted to send the pics in to you and maybe you can help me identify what they are.

Camera used - Canon EOS D60

SOURCE

[rdunk]

To me, these two flying craft seem to be moving in opposite directions. Because of their aerodynamic shapes, we can pretty much know that the top aircraft is moving to our right. And it seem that we can see a cockpit in the forward nose (magnified). While the lower acft. is not as viewable, we can see the "cockpit" on our left end of it - thus it would be moving to our left. ??

[deuem]

Well I was hoping this would process off the roof but insead I got 2 dead objects. Zero fields that I can find, no atmospheric interference and no movement trails. Deuem is disapointed.They almost look like paper airplanes to me. The line could be added or copied to the front. Keep the tin foill hats on the mantle......Anyone else got an idea?

[1Worldwatcher]

Well I was hoping this would process off the roof but insead I got 2 dead objects.

There may a few explanations here as to the "Why's" Deuem.

Zero fields that I can find, no atmospheric interference and no movement trails.

At first I thought this may be due to low light resolution of the image captured, then ran a Element request and found really nothing too show if it was a Photoshopped image or a direct image from SD Card, which it supplied none of these, Not evenif it was the camera mentioned, so did a few low tech. things too see if I could recreate the effects with in the high lines caught in the image.

First image is done with paint, though the lines are more prominent with in my example, point being is to show that the lines could have been added, but this is not an absolute for the answers, just an idea of what 'I' am interpreting as far as the image goes:

These lines are two gray hues the same exact color of gray to see the 'Stepping' of the lines are consistent with the high lines with in the image and that with a bit of tweaking, one could create the ghost effect with in a photo shop studio.Keep in mind, this may be only one of several explanations, and I know Deuem has a much more complex-ed scenario of the process, but may be the answer too whether this image is the real deal or not, I and I am rather a firm confider in the Deuem Process and what it does, so should have pulled out 'Something' if this was a genuine 3-D object captured.

The second is three color scheme with Light Gray, dark gray and then Black for further comparison and all lines show stepping effect as in the original photo presented as the evidence:



As I was trying too understand what we were exactly seeing, and realizing we do have some tree species that produce 'Flying Pod's' as form of species survival, It may very well be a case where a few of these pods were caught in mid flight and there by eluding the photographer's attention while they were falling through the area of the image captured.

This may also explain the ghostly/Transparent effects we see in the image, there by showing the wires to be in front of the alleged UFO image captured.

Deuem is disapointed.They almost look like paper airplanes to me. The line could be added or copied to the front. Keep the tin foill hats on the mantle......Anyone else got an idea?

I would like to reiterate that I am not sure what this image is exactly of, but I am leaning toward mis-identification, or out right Hoax. I don't see anything really supporting a Genuine UFO image capture, something is wrong with all presented here, and the objects, if they are of the same type sow some very concerning differences with in body & surface control areas inconsistencies, IMHO.

With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher

ETA: To fix post structure with [ Quotes ]

[deuem]

If Mufon has the original of this and wants me to take another look, I will try it. Even at the source Zorgon listed the photo is only 208kb. 800x534 pixels. Garbage in, garbage out. My cell phone would take a better photo.

On the wires 1ww, I could put that section of the wire in front of anything in about 1 minute if I had the original. The higher the res, the easier it is. When done, dump res. All done in layers. In this low res photo I can count about 5 places where it could have ben fudged. But we have the low res and I hate to shoot anyone just for that reason. But low res or hi res, I still get nothing to write home about. When I look at alive photos, It does not matter the res, the process just gets better with res, not nothing and flat.

One thing for all to try, is blur. If you blur that photo they go out of focus very fast. Almost instant. Now try and blur other objects in other photos and compare the results. Things that are what I call flat will be taken out with just a small amout of blur while other objects you can still see with a lot more blur. This is just a cheap test to try. This is an Artistic view, not scientific. On a scale of 1 to 100, if something blurs out completly at say 10, there is a problem in my book. Try a face or 2.

[ArMaP]

To me they looks like moths or something like that, one going in each directions.

One thing I noticed is that the wire is darker but less blue in the place where the object appears, which is consistent with the object being in front of the wire but being translucent, as a fast moving insect would appear.

Also, with the camera pointing to north, the scene had too little light, so the photo probably has a relatively low shutter speed, the reason for the blurring of the (supposed) insects.

[zorgon]

If Mufon has the original of this and wants me to take another look, I will try it. Even at the source Zorgon listed the photo is only 208kb. 800x534 pixels. Garbage in, garbage out. My cell phone would take a better photo

Long Description of Sighting Report
On June 21, 2013 I decided to start marking the sun set as it met the horizon to make me a rock calendar kinda like Stone Hinge. I am calling it Mike Hinge. I picked out a spot on the west side of my property placed a rectangle rock next to a fence post and spray painted the post gray. I sat my Iphone on top of my tripod to mark the heading of where the sun was setting and what heading I was facing to make sure that I can make the same observation each month as the sun sets. I snapped a couple of photos of the sun setting and then turned my attention to the hills north of where I was standing. I snapped a couple of shots and then came into the house to download them on my computer. As I was going through the pictures I noticed these two triangle shaped objects that I had not seen while taking the pictures. I then cropped the pic to enlarge the objects. At first glance I thought they might have been birds but Ive never taken any pictured of birds in flight that look like these. Upon further observation of the objects I noticed that the one on the left bottom appears to be behind some telephone wires that are approximately 150 yards down my driveway which makes the object appear to be Very Large. The second object appears to be behind the leaves of the tree that is approximately 30 yards in front of me and also appears to be Very large. I took two pictures just a few seconds apart and the objects are only in one of the photos.
Im not saying these are USOs well I guess they are because I can not Identify them. lol..
I just wanted to send the pics in to you and maybe you can help me identify what they are..
Thank you in Advance,
[Name removed/cms/tg]
p.s. I did notice prior to taking the photos my Iphone Compass was malfunctioning by loosing its magnetic north settings.

2   2013-06-22   2013-06-21
8:45PM   {dr}These two objects appeared in a photograph. I didnt notice them while I was taking the picture.   McAlester, OK, US

http://www.mufon.com/mufonreports.html

[deuem]

Zorgon, I followed your source link out to Mufon and they had the same low res photo there also.
You published what they had. Very Good.

What I would need is the original or an exact copy of it. How many cameras shoot this low of a res. So it has been altered in res so much that anything can happen. Maybe he printed it and scanned it?  Like I said, if Mufon can get me a copy of the original hi res I will try it again. We need camera details.

By the way, to me they are not translucent. I can not see thru them anywhere. They are just there, dead!

If I had a 100% true sighting I would do my best to get a full res photo on line somewhere.

Besides, like I think, these two objects could be nothing more than large paper air planes being pulled by the lines shown. 2 Lines, 2 planes, 1 in each dirrection? Need a pulley at each end and some black string. They look like they are just flopping around in the air.

I think we are being had!  The only thing that can pull this one out of the trash is a fantastic full res photo...That will be the day....

Deuem, What did Mufon say Or are they waiting on us? lol

[ArMaP]

What I would need is the original or an exact copy of it.

I think the first photo on zorgon's previous post is the original, this image here.

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[deuem]

Ok, got the hi res photo to work with this time. IMHO I Still say we are being had on this one.

We are being told this was a shot took late in the evening and the dusk is falling fast Wow, I wonder what this is then. A miricle?

Please look at the trees and where the shadows are. We can see light on this side of them like it is either 10am or 2pm. Nice green grass. Hum?



Now, anyone that has ever looked at a Deuem process might know by know how it finds Sunlight. Out of everything it does that the best. Look at the rays. Is this dusk?



The sun looks like it is high in the sky to me!

In one of my close ups processes if you looked at the screen on the right angle it looked like there was a wire for each nose leading down to the wire. I tried many times to get it to show better with no luck. Very fine fishing wire at a distance is almost impossible to catch. Matter afact, I did not catch the line I think I caught the effect of i from the sun.

I still think this is a hoax. The sunlight Deuem photo should all by itself confirm that....

When in doubt, go after other things....

By the way they are still both dead......

Deuem

[Gigas]

Looks to be two gray colored delta winged RC toys flying around at high noon. They make em in all shapes and designs now days. I see now reason to take a photo of this scene other than to play some games with the ufo community and get hits with a little sad story.

If the game player would tell us where this was taken, we can google earth the location and see some logical observations on it.

[ArMaP]

We are being told this was a shot took late in the evening and the dusk is falling fast Wow, I wonder what this is then. A miricle?

No, that's the result of changing the photo. The original looks like a photo taken after sunset.

Please look at the trees and where the shadows are. We can see light on this side of them like it is either 10am or 2pm. Nice green grass. Hum?

Shadows? Where? I only see shaded areas, not shadows.

Now, anyone that has ever looked at a Deuem process might know by know how it finds Sunlight. Out of everything it does that the best. Look at the rays. Is this dusk?

Yes.

The sun looks like it is high in the sky to me!

To me it looks a little to the left and not visible, as there are no shadows.

I still think this is a hoax. The sunlight Deuem photo should all by itself confirm that....

Why?

By the way they are still both dead......

Dead? 

[deuem]

ArMaP, you are the best.

Yes, I am the one who is wrong and hoaxed you. Yesterday I flew my jet to that site took a nice daylight photo, flew back to China and coppied the UFOs into the daylight shot and ran it.
100% Deuem Hoax. How bout that. Is that what you want to read, because you don't want to read anything that makes sense. Yes sir, I hoaxed it 100%. Now you should be happy.

If you can't find the shadows in the trees and on the ground it is because I took them all out with my super powers. I zapped them away so you could not find them. Don't forget to look at those 20 foot high poles and all of the long dusk shadows they made. Sorry I zapped them also. Mufon asked me to do that to keep it real. I am a secrete Mufon agent hiding in China.

The original was done after sunset and the sun was below the horizion. We can all see that now that you pointed it out. Hurray. I think I will have to trash that Deuem program for light sources since it does not work. You see I drew in all of those sun ray above the horizon and made a mistake by turning them upside down. oops caught me....

If you don't understand what I mean by Dead or alive by now, You never will. I am not going to explain it over and over and over for the rest of my life. Please read my main thread from the start to understand "dead".

I think this is the first time I have gone on the hunt for a hoax here. Most of the time I just let them pass. If it wasnt for Zorgon and it being posted on Mufon I would have passed. Right now I am very sorry that I even posted anything. People ask me why I don't print more about what I see. I think you have your answer.

In the mean time I am going back to the computer and hand draw in all of those sun rays for the next Deuem hoax photo. They do take some time to draw in. I do them pixel at a time...

I guess for some stupid reason of mine, people would like to see some real work done and handed in instead of just talk.

So this photo is 100% real, taken at dusk and shows two UFOs playing in the yard. Fantastic photo. The most real UFO photo I have ever seen... I think Our Mr ArMaP can field any questions from here on. I know I am convinced.  Thanks pal....We leave it in your capable hands.

I see the list of your friends is growing daily. Me, Sarge, 1WW, Thor and everyone else you love to death. You have a very nice way of making friends here. I thank you for giving me the pleasure....

[zorgon]

Seems to me that MUFON now just accepts any old picture without doing any real research. Maybe we should test that... make a cool UFO picture and submit it and see what they do



And THEYget 1 Million bucks from Bigelow  go figure..

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!!

[ArMaP]

Yes, I am the one who is wrong and hoaxed you.

I didn't say you hoaxed me or anyone else, but I think you are wrong.

And yes, posting an altered image will get comments like that from me, because you did altered the photo, didn't you?

Yesterday I flew my jet to that site took a nice daylight photo, flew back to China and coppied the UFOs into the daylight shot and ran it.
100% Deuem Hoax. How bout that. Is that what you want to read, because you don't want to read anything that makes sense. Yes sir, I hoaxed it 100%. Now you should be happy.

No, that's not what I want to read, I just want truth in everything, so when you post an altered image you should not present it as if it was the original.

If you can't find the shadows in the trees and on the ground it is because I took them all out with my super powers. I zapped them away so you could not find them. Don't forget to look at those 20 foot high poles and all of the long dusk shadows they made. Sorry I zapped them also. Mufon asked me to do that to keep it real. I am a secrete Mufon agent hiding in China.

Can you highlight one shadow, instead of avoiding a real answer? Thanks in advance.

The original was done after sunset and the sun was below the horizion. We can all see that now that you pointed it out. Hurray.

You asked a question, I gave you my answer. If you don't like my answers don't post public questions or add that you don't want to answer.

I think I will have to trash that Deuem program for light sources since it does not work. You see I drew in all of those sun ray above the horizon and made a mistake by turning them upside down. oops caught me....

It does work, but it only changes colours, right? Nobody needs the Deuem process to get an idea of the darker and brighter areas. And if there are any sun rays in the photo, I don't see them, I only see coloured pixels, of arbitrarily chosen colours.

If you don't understand what I mean by Dead or alive by now, You never will. I am not going to explain it over and over and over for the rest of my life. Please read my main thread from the start to understand "dead".

I think I understand, but I always think we should write in a way that most people understand, even those that have not being following the several discussions of this last year.

I guess for some stupid reason of mine, people would like to see some real work done and handed in instead of just talk.

It depends on what you call "work".

So this photo is 100% real, taken at dusk and shows two UFOs playing in the yard. Fantastic photo. The most real UFO photo I have ever seen... I think Our Mr ArMaP can field any questions from here on. I know I am convinced.  Thanks pal....We leave it in your capable hands.

I already gave my opinion, and is just that, an opinion.

I see the list of your friends is growing daily. Me, Sarge, 1WW, Thor and everyone else you love to death. You have a very nice way of making friends here. I thank you for giving me the pleasure....

I didn't accepted the invitation to join Pegasus to make friends, and real friends don't stop being friends because of silly things like this, so if I am losing them it means that they weren't really my friends.

I just want the truth, without embellishments of any kind, and I think a friend would understand that and wouldn't get upset when I post my opinion.