Million Mask March, the 5th of November 2013

[Elvis Hendrix]

I think you can protest all you want, It ain't gonna work. Masks are now a felony. Fema camps are open and waiting for you all. This is not the 60ties. The only way to get to these people is to stop funding their pocket book, Elect people that will really do what they say and bounce the ones that don't. Money is the key they use, use it back.

Everyone stop working for a month, see what happens then... Nice, just stay at home and relax. No money flowing...Do what they do take all your money out of the bank and put it in a nother country. Get a charge card from that country. Strip it where it hurts. The pocket book. Fighting them would never work unless it went to arms and I would never suggest that. It would end our country..

Most people really don't understand the power of the dollar. Using it and not using it. They just like to complain. Like Zorgon says to do with Exon, Ok, stop buying Exon gas. Stop buying Imported junk. Stop using the dollar. A halt in using the dollar and a mass exit of savings to other ports would shake up things far better than a rally. You have to play their game to win without blood shed or jail time.

Go on strike from Nov 1st to Dec 1st.  Stop the cash flow.....Have a sleep in at home....Nice and peaceful...No one gets hurt..

Spot on.

have a bit of the shiny stuff.

Elvis.

[Elvis Hendrix]

I'll revert to the Occupy message - We're talking to the 1%

I don't see why you are over complicating a very simple matter.

Remember - if you're not part of the solution - you're part of the problem.

No im not part of the problem, that is a cliche.
I have been politically active on the front line and I know where it can lead.
My father was a political prisoner in Auschwitz and mathausen consentration camps, so i dont talk from the sidelines.

Elvis.

[Sinny]

No im not part of the problem, that is a cliche.
I have been politically active on the front line and I know where it can lead.
My father was a political prisoner in Auschwitz and mathausen consentration camps, so i dont talk from the sidelines.

Elvis.

I didn't mean to be derogatory towards you. However, I don't feel the defeatist attitude adds to progression.

[Elvis Hendrix]

I didn't mean to be derogatory towards you. However, I don't feel the defeatist attitude adds to progression.

Sinny i get that totally, I just wish anon had a solidified front with a few very tangable goals that the public could identify with.
Small steps with big meaning.
peace to you.

Elvis

[sky otter]

i also work on the local level of gov and if you do not have a replacement plan for what you want rid of..you will not even be heard..let alone change anything

you need a constructive plan not a bunch of masked humans demanding that the rules be changed
what rules and changed to what...
throwing a tantrum will get you nothing but laughter..well it might get you jail


personally i have taken my plan to action by getting involved and changed things from the working side...guess what.. it can be done
move into the positions of power yourself and change it from there..is it easy or fast..nope
but it is effective

and if you consider mobs shouting to be progress..you are mistaken

[deuem]

i also work on the local level of gov and if you do not have a replacement plan for what you want rid of..you will not even be heard..let alone change anything

you need a constructive plan not a bunch of masked humans demanding that the rules be changed
what rules and changed to what...
throwing a tantrum will get you nothing but laughter..well it might get you jail


personally i have taken my plan to action by getting involved and changed things from the working side...guess what.. it can be done
move into the positions of power yourself and change it from there..is it easy or fast..nope
but it is effective

and if you consider mobs shouting to be progress..you are mistaken

Sky for the people who really understand, you are right on. A gold for you today....

I have heard from so many people that you can't fight city hall, my ears fell off. I have done this so many times and won. If you have a plan that is better than theirs it will work. Even better, their plan and they forgot it. I even got my house taxes cut in half one time. Information and planning is the key. They don't call it grass roots for nothing..

Broken record Deuem: Hit them in the pocket book. They will wake up! A good PTA or a selective group of neighbors can change more in local government than a million riots. Make changes with your brain power not your militant power. You know if that many people get together there will be people inside that will start it up and people will get hurt or jailed. Businesses will be burt or looted. The good people will lose twice.

A million letters to the boss would do more.....IMHO

Edit, Even in China I have gone to all levels of gov and changed things for the better. Most of them are human also and once they see a better way they go with it. My wife thinks I am crazy when I do this, my friends think I will dissapear but I have never lost yet. Even here. Plans on the right side of humans work every time. What might not be understood is that they don't have all the answers and are looking for them more than you think. They are human also. Change to be fair and you win. Easy.

[Amaterasu]

The problem as i see it with any of this stuff is there needs to be a  formal cohesive message. Otherwise its just a lot of disparate voices, and that will never change anything.
That is exactly why the Occupy movement fell on its arse.
They couldnt string a coherant sentence together, so the media didnt know what they were supposed to be reporting.

Put together a written mandate of issues that need to be addressed immediately. With the most pressing first for gods sake.
Then you will Garner public interest and you will gain momentum.

otherwise its just people shouting.

elvis.

I keep offering a direction...  Sure, it's good We all rise up...but, as You said, without direction We will mill about shouting about the problems with no specific solution.

I hope the ideas I offer spread so that We will MOVE towards Betterment.

[Elvis Hendrix]

I keep offering a direction...  Sure, it's good We all rise up...but, as You said, without direction We will mill about shouting about the problems with no specific solution.

I hope the ideas I offer spread so that We will MOVE towards Betterment.

Yup,
Small steps with big ideas.

[petrus4]

I'll revert to the Occupy message - We're talking to the 1%

The only problem with said Occupy message, is that Occupy were deluded.  Demographically speaking, in terms of the number of people who actually showed up, they were closer to 1%, themselves; they just repetitively screamed that they were the majority, as though that by itself would change anything.

Occupy had no solutions.  They never did.  At their core, initially anyway, they were the usual group of liberal, photogenic, campus 20 somethings.  Very trendy, and look great in media interviews, but not worth the proverbial hill of beans when it comes to actually getting anything done.

I will never forget one of the women who Dennis Trainer interviewed, as part of his movie on Occupy.  Flaming red hair, chalk white skin, and hooded serpent green eyes; she was literally a walking Anarchist flag, to the same degree that Superman was an American one.  That is what Occupy was; all style and subversive, anarcho-Communist imagery, and absolutely no substance.

They also didn't have an ounce of real stamina, or anything close to the stomach required for a truly long term campaign.  Once the police broke Zucotti up, it was over.

Do not give me the tired canard that if I'm not in support of Occupy, I'm automatically part of the problem.  That is a false and projected duality; and I've also seen enough of your posts, Sinny, to know that you're smart enough to know better than that.  I don't think Occupy were useless because I don't want solutions; quite the opposite.  I think Occupy and Anonymous are useless, and am going to continue to express it, precisely because I want to find something that actually will work.

The only thing that is going to work is a large scale corporate boycott.  Money is the only thing corporations care about, and it is also literally the only means of exercising control over them that we have left.  That was the main reason why Occupy left such a bad taste in my mouth; while protesting, they kept using their iPhones and their media players, and woe betide you if you dared suggest giving those things up.

That is what will work, however, and that alone.  Get rid of the mobile phones.  Boycott Apple; do not give them a cent.  Unless and until we do that, however, nothing will change.

[deuem]

The only thing that is going to work is a large scale corporate boycott.  Money is the only thing corporations care about, and it is also literally the only means of exercising control over them that we have left.  That was the main reason why Occupy left such a bad taste in my mouth; while protesting, they kept using their iPhones and their media players, and woe betide you if you dared suggest giving those things up.

That is what will work, however, and that alone.  Get rid of the mobile phones.  Boycott Apple; do not give them a cent.  Unless and until we do that, however, nothing will change.

I see you understand.  A gold bingo for you today...MONEY

Last year here, they almost took McDonalds down. McDs was forced to start handing out free food to stay alive. Even to this day, you buy, you get something for free. Every year they go after 5 companies that have done something wrong.  Money, it works...

[zorgon]

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Now you know what they were for 

[zorgon]

you need a constructive plan not a bunch of masked humans demanding that the rules be changed
what rules and changed to what...
throwing a tantrum will get you nothing but laughter..well it might get you jail

...and if you consider mobs shouting to be progress..you are mistaken

Out of those ONE MILLION MASKS.....

How many would it take if they were Agents wearing a mask in the midst to cause trouble? How fast would a peaceful rally turn ugly if one of these masked agents fires a stray shot at the cops?

Most internet warriors are such chickens that they are afraid to use their real name online when they make a statement. For the same reason they will never sign a petition even thought they will say they did....

An avatar/nick name give anonymity, like the mask does... but it also allows those with bad intentions to hide behind them, like a child molester hangs out in chat rooms

They have already made it illegal to attend a protest wearing a mask in Canada... Imagine if some rouge agents wanted to stir up a riot...

With the mask no one knows who ANYONE is... the three guys behind you might be CIA or might be BlackBerry thugs...

And as Sky says... without a SOLID solution in hand to replace the existing one, the Masks will just be a band of Thugs

Our forefathers wore no mask... they stood up and signed their name... these few men changed the world and only had 20% of the people for support

In Egypt the people rose and literally dragged their ruler out of office... they wore no mask either

What purpose will the Million Mask March accomplish? What is it's goal? Do you realize that the majority of supporters are merely sheep donning that mask because they think it is cool and no one will recognize them?

Well lets see what happens... I have some popcorn and beer... but it would be ironic if that was what all those FEMA camps REALLY were for... that 'civil unrest'

[zorgon]

200 Gold

I think you can protest all you want, It ain't gonna work. Masks are now a felony. Fema camps are open and waiting for you all. This is not the 60ties. The only way to get to these people is to stop funding their pocket book, Elect people that will really do what they say and bounce the ones that don't. Money is the key they use, use it back.

Everyone stop working for a month, see what happens then... Nice, just stay at home and relax. No money flowing...Do what they do take all your money out of the bank and put it in a nother country. Get a charge card from that country. Strip it where it hurts. The pocket book. Fighting them would never work unless it went to arms and I would never suggest that. It would end our country..

Most people really don't understand the power of the dollar. Using it and not using it. They just like to complain. Like Zorgon says to do with Exon, Ok, stop buying Exon gas. Stop buying Imported junk. Stop using the dollar. A halt in using the dollar and a mass exit of savings to other ports would shake up things far better than a rally. You have to play their game to win without blood shed or jail time.

Go on strike from Nov 1st to Dec 1st.  Stop the cash flow.....Have a sleep in at home....Nice and peaceful...No one gets hurt..

This person gets it

[zorgon]

200 Gold

The problem as i see it with any of this stuff is there needs to be a  formal cohesive message. Otherwise its just a lot of disparate voices, and that will never change anything.
That is exactly why the Occupy movement fell on its arse.
They couldnt string a coherant sentence together, so the media didnt know what they were supposed to be reporting.

Put together a written mandate of issues that need to be addressed immediately. With the most pressing first for gods sake.
Then you will Garner public interest and you will gain momentum.

otherwise its just people shouting.

elvis.

This person gets it

[zorgon]

Well, Occupy was infiltrated to the HILT.

And who says Anon isn't infiltrated as well? Sinc e there is no organizational structure there is no way of knowing.

How many acts have been committed by people posing as Anon? How is someone outside supposed to know what is a 'real' Anon attack and what is a fake one? When Anon hacked ATS passwords it effected me and some of my accounts. That WAS a real Anon attack because the personal info was posted on a know Anon site

With Anon, it's a paradox - we cannot create a hierarchy because that is exactly what we oppose.
The unified IDEA behind Anon is to take down the tyrannical government.
Each of us bring our owns individual passions to the table - be it welfare cuts, against the wars, the war on drugs, poverty etc etc.

Humans need a SHEPHERD  we are a herd animal. This has been proven time and time again... that is why cult leaders can so easily win a group. The problem with the current system is that the current SHEPHERDS are corrupt. What is needed are new SHEPHERDS to replace them... ones that will care for the people.

Anon represents ANARCHY... and by that very nature it will fail because anarchy will not fix anything. All it will do is tear things down and leave a mess worse than we have because they have no solution to fix things.

I am willing to be if everyone donning a mask would truly understand what can happen, they would leave very quickly.

As you said  everyone brings something else to the table  Every anon member has a personal beef with someone or something and thinks by donning the mask they can tear it down... but WHAT THEN?

Out of all the mask wearers I know I have only heard a soultion from ONE Amy's TAP and that is a long term possible/maybe solution. It won't help a bit once the infra structure is torn down and everyone is left in utter chaos

But I will guarantee one thing... when the chaos starts, the gangs and other criminals will have no qualms about preying on the disorganized sheep

I think the general message is very clear.

The only general message I see is tear everything down... as you said Anon has no structure, no plan, no heirarchy to rebuild

Those 'internment camps' that have been built over the last 30 years...When do you thin they'll be putting those bad boys into action?

The day after the Million Mask Mark...